RE: Dumb question
Jeremy - even better, what protocl is self correcting ? I need that protocol running on my network ASAP ! Nick Payton -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jeremy Dumoit Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 8:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Dumb question I think I'm unclear on some of the protocols here... for what purpose would a protocol detect errors, but not correct them? Maybe QoS? _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Extremely Strange Routing Problem! (update)
I would check to make sure that the connected interface is using the correct mask on both sides. See what that produces for you. Nick Payton -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Neiberger Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 3:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Extremely Strange Routing Problem! (update) More info. The router does not appear to realize that the "directly" connected next-hop address is unreachable. RouterA#sho ip route 10.2.7.75 Routing entry for 10.0.0.0/8 Known via "static", distance 1, metric 0 (connected) Redistributing via eigrp 1, rip Advertised by eigrp 1 rip Routing Descriptor Blocks: * directly connected, via Null0 Route metric is 0, traffic share count is 1 So, even though the interface directly connected to the next-hop address is down, it thinks it is still reachable via a static routing pointing to Null0, a connected interface. Does this seem irrational to anyone but me?? If the next hop is down but there is a valid next-hop in the eigrp topology table, I want it to take that route, not the default route! Dang it all! :-) I still don't understand this behavior at all, but perhaps this will provide a clue to some of you. Going insane, John Ok, this is completely baking my noodle. If someone can solve this, I will fly to your location and kiss you on the forehead. Here is the layout: RouterA has two frame relay PVCs, point to point, that go to router B. EIGRP is running on one link but not the other. (RIP is running on routerA but is not currently being used on any links.) We have static routes for the traffic we want to take the second PVC. At router A I have the following: ip route 10.2.50.70 255.255.255.255 10.2.70.75 50 ip route 10.2.50.70 255.255.255.255 10.1.111.60 100 ip route 10.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 Null0 (don't ask why this is here, it just is g) 10.2.50.70 is the loopback address of router B, and 10.2.70.75 is the IP address at Router B's second PVC. 10.1.111.60 is the secondary dial backup route. So far, so good. Now for the part that is completely freakin' me out. The entire circuit at A that has the second PVC to B goes down, and subsequently all PVCs on that circuit go down. The main circuit and its associated PVCs are still up. Remember, eigrp is running on this link. So... 10.2.70.75 is no longer available, that PVC is down. That static route is removed from the routing table. There should now be an eigrp-learned route with an AD of 90 for 10.2.50.70 on the main PVC. This is NOT happening! I do a show ip route 10.2.50.70 and I get the following: RouterA#show ip route 10.2.50.70 Routing entry for 10.0.0.0/8 Known via "static", distance 1, metric 0 (connected) Redistributing via eigrp 1, rip Advertised by eigrp 1 rip Routing Descriptor Blocks: * directly connected, via Null0 Route metric is 0, traffic share count is 1 The secondary static route is also not in use because in this scenario, the remote branch circuit is not completely down, and dial backup has not occured. All of their other PVCs are up. Now, take a look at this: RouterA#sho ip eigrp topo 10.2.50.0 255.255.255.0 IP-EIGRP topology entry for 10.2.50.0/24 State is Passive, Query origin flag is 1, 1 Successor(s), FD is 2297856 Routing Descriptor Blocks: 10.2.10.75 (Serial1/1.27), from 10.2.10.75, Send flag is 0x0 Composite metric is (2297856/128256), Route is Internal Vector metric: Minimum bandwidth is 1544 Kbit Total delay is 25000 microseconds Reliability is 255/255 Load is 12/255 Minimum MTU is 1500 Hop count is 1 There is a valid route in the topology table, but it is not being entered into the routing table. Why not? Why is it choosing the less specific 10.0.0.0/8 route to Null0? Ok, now it gets even stranger... Remember the static routes, one with an AD of 50 and the other with an AD of 100? Once I removed them manually by typing no ip route 10.2.50.70 etc., the valid route in the eigrp topology table was entered into the routing table. What difference does this make? Those static routes weren't even being used because the next hop addresses were unreachable. Why did the router wait for me to remove them manually before it entered the dynamically learned route into the table? I just do not understand this behavior, and it is certainly not what I would expect. I have a couple of guesses, but I can't follow them to any logical conclusion. Might this have something to do with the fact that the primary route is a static host route and not a route for a specific subnet? Might this behave differently if I change the static route to 10.2.50.0 255.255.255.0? Then it would match exactly to the route avail
RE: Has anyone seen a 2901 that has the same i.o.s as 5000 switch
As are the 2948G series too. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tony van Ree Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 9:48 PM To: Jeff Kelly; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Has anyone seen a 2901 that has the same i.o.s as 5000 switch Hi, Don't the cat2900's (NOT XL's all look that way.) The 2926, 2901 are 5000 series based as I understood it. At least the ones I am viewing are. Teunis, Hobart, Tasmania Australia On Wednesday, January 31, 2001 at 01:18:43 PM, Jeff Kelly wrote: _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- www.tasmail.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: IP accounting
TACACS or Radius ? I am under the belief that those are both authentication tools, not accounting tools. Try using Netflow if your interested in accounting - IP accounting would be difficult to use for accounting purposes, but is usefull for getting a quick synopsis of the traffic coming across a particular interface. Nick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of suaveguru Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 6:49 PM To: Bulent Sahin; ; Tony van Ree Subject: Re: IP accounting try tacacas or radius servers they are both reputable products in the market --- Bulent Sahin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Where can I find such tools? Thanks. Bulent Sahin - Özgün Ýleti - Kimden: "Tony van Ree" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kime: "Deloso. Elmer G (WPNSTA Yorktown)" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gönderme tarihi: 24 Ocak 2001 Çarþamba 00:22 Konu: Re: IP accounting Hi, IP accounting will slow down your router. I would tend to use it as a tool for trouble shooting or finding specific stuff on your network but not much chop for anything else. For billing etc there are better tools available. I feel routers should route (and switch too) and accounting packages should get the data from the router and account. Just my feelings. Teunis, Hobart, Tasmania Australia On Tuesday, January 23, 2001 at 08:45:39 AM, Deloso. Elmer G (WPNSTA Yorktown) wrote: Hello, group. Can someone give me feedback on implementing IP Accounting on the gateway router? I'd like to know it's plus / minus sides, cpu/memory load issues, etc. CCO doesn't seem to have much info on it. Thanks in advance. Elmer Deloso _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- www.tasmail.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: IP accounting
I agree with that statement in that sense of accounting. I was under the impression he was looking for traffic accounting either out of curiousity, troubleshooting, or for SLA issues. Good point though - so Elmer what type of "accounting" are you reffering to ? Nick Payton -Original Message- From: Kevin Wigle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 9:01 PM To: Nick Payton; suaveguru; 'Cisco@Groupstudy. Com' Subject: Re: IP accounting A poster pointed the list to NTTacPlus just a few weeks ago. It all depends on what is meant by "ip accounting". Tacacs+ and Radius are used within the aaa implementation. Authentication Authorization Accounting I am experimenting with the above program now and I can: see when you logged in/off see if you tried to start an exec see what commands you gave while in exec if dialin - how many bytes were transferred and I'm just getting started there is lots more.. Unfortunately as far as I can tell - the data is raw. i.e. you'll have to suck it into a spreadsheet and massage it as you will. However, it can also log to an obdc/sql database - then you could do queries. I think the Cisco tacacs server has canned reports but I have not looked at it yet. Kevin Wigle - Original Message - From: "Nick Payton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "suaveguru" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "'Cisco@Groupstudy. Com'" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 29 January, 2001 00:15 Subject: RE: IP accounting TACACS or Radius ? I am under the belief that those are both authentication tools, not accounting tools. Try using Netflow if your interested in accounting - IP accounting would be difficult to use for accounting purposes, but is usefull for getting a quick synopsis of the traffic coming across a particular interface. Nick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of suaveguru Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 6:49 PM To: Bulent Sahin; ; Tony van Ree Subject: Re: IP accounting try tacacas or radius servers they are both reputable products in the market --- Bulent Sahin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Where can I find such tools? Thanks. Bulent Sahin - Özgün Ýleti - Kimden: "Tony van Ree" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kime: "Deloso. Elmer G (WPNSTA Yorktown)" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gönderme tarihi: 24 Ocak 2001 Çarþamba 00:22 Konu: Re: IP accounting Hi, IP accounting will slow down your router. I would tend to use it as a tool for trouble shooting or finding specific stuff on your network but not much chop for anything else. For billing etc there are better tools available. I feel routers should route (and switch too) and accounting packages should get the data from the router and account. Just my feelings. Teunis, Hobart, Tasmania Australia On Tuesday, January 23, 2001 at 08:45:39 AM, Deloso. Elmer G (WPNSTA Yorktown) wrote: Hello, group. Can someone give me feedback on implementing IP Accounting on the gateway router? I'd like to know it's plus / minus sides, cpu/memory load issues, etc. CCO doesn't seem to have much info on it. Thanks in advance. Elmer Deloso _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- www.tasmail.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: RIP
You need to install routing and remote access to enable RIP. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paver, Charles Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 11:12 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RIP Hi again! Was wondering if anyone knows how to implement RIP on windows nt for 2 pcs (1 ws and 1 server) nt 4.0? I know to check it in the tcp/ip properties (enable ip forwarding) but do i need 2 NIC cards? And where do i add the static route? Thanks in advance! (I have a router at home, but wanted to see if I could install RIP at home on the pcs) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
