Re: Hub-to-Switch connection problem

2000-12-01 Thread Randy Blumhoff

Correction
Pins 12 are Transmit  and Pins 36 are Recieve on a non-crossed port (NICs
 Routers)
Pins 12 are Recieve  and Pins 36 are Transmit on a crossed port (HUBs 
Switches)


""Randy Blumhoff"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 the simple facts are as follows:

 1) Deciding on a crossover or straight-through cable is a physical layer
 problem

 2) Depending on which cable you use will depend on how the manufacturer
 designed and wired the physical port on each end.

 3) ever situation is different, the only reason you rule works most of the
 time is that manufacturers try to wire their ports to what will be pluging
 into them the majority of the time.

 4) you have 2 pairs of wire - pins 1,2,3,6 (Pins 12 - Recieve) (Pins 36
 are transmit)

 No matter what you are connecting, the recieve must go to the transmit and
 and on the other end the transmit must go the recieve (hence the name
 crossover)

 5) On hubs  switches most manufactures hardwire the the ports already
 crossed, so you don't have to use a crossover cable on a connection to a
PC
 or Router (routers  NIC's are not hardwired crossed), but you do have to
 use a crossover cable on a hub to hub connection because the ports on each
 end are crossed (2 cross ports equals the transmit to transmit and recieve
 to recieve on a straight-through cable).

 6) the MDI/MDI-X switch is used to uncross a port on the HUB - this should
 had work for you (you only set one side to MDI) unless you had a cable
 problem also. (Link lights do not mean the cable is good.)

 I hope this helps you the next time you have a problem.

 Randy

 ""Bradley J. Wilson"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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  Okay gang, I had an interesting and annoying situation yesterday
morning,
  and I'd like to see if anyone else has had an experience like this:
 
  My client was installing an older BayStack 301 switch into their
existing
  network, which consisted of a Bay Access Node router, as well as four
  stacked SynOptics LattisHubs.  The router was experiencing excessive
  collisions, hence the installation of the switch.  So we installed the
  switch and cabled the router to it, moved all the "power users" directly
  onto the switch, and left the other users attached to the hub.  We
 attached
  the hub to the switch via a straight-through cable.
 
  The users who were directly connected to the switch had no problem
 accessing
  the network and Internet.  The users on the hub were dead in the water.
 We
  tried swapping out the cable between the hub and switch, tried plugging
  either end into different ports, tried flipping the MDI/MDI-X switch,
and
  nothing worked.  The only thing that *did* work was using a *crossover*
  cable between the hub and the switch.
 
  Now, the rule (which I gleaned from this newsgroup, btw) is that when
 you're
  connecting devices at different OSI layers, you use a straight-through -
  e.g. PC to hub, PC to switch, switch to router, hub to switch - that's
all
  straight-through.  You use a crossover when you're connecting devices at
 the
  same OSI layer - router to router, switch to switch, hub to hub, PC to
PC.
  In the situation yesterday, a straight-through seemed logical, as we
were
  trying to connect a hub to a switch.  Am I wrong here?  Why did the
  crossover work?
 
  Thanks,
 
  BJ
 
  P.S. sorry for the Bay-centric example...I'm trying to get them to
change
  that. ;-)
 
 
 
 
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Re: Hub-to-Switch connection problem

2000-12-01 Thread Randy Blumhoff

the simple facts are as follows:

1) Deciding on a crossover or straight-through cable is a physical layer
problem

2) Depending on which cable you use will depend on how the manufacturer
designed and wired the physical port on each end.

3) ever situation is different, the only reason you rule works most of the
time is that manufacturers try to wire their ports to what will be pluging
into them the majority of the time.

4) you have 2 pairs of wire - pins 1,2,3,6 (Pins 12 - Recieve) (Pins 36
are transmit)

No matter what you are connecting, the recieve must go to the transmit and
and on the other end the transmit must go the recieve (hence the name
crossover)

5) On hubs  switches most manufactures hardwire the the ports already
crossed, so you don't have to use a crossover cable on a connection to a PC
or Router (routers  NIC's are not hardwired crossed), but you do have to
use a crossover cable on a hub to hub connection because the ports on each
end are crossed (2 cross ports equals the transmit to transmit and recieve
to recieve on a straight-through cable).

6) the MDI/MDI-X switch is used to uncross a port on the HUB - this should
had work for you (you only set one side to MDI) unless you had a cable
problem also. (Link lights do not mean the cable is good.)

I hope this helps you the next time you have a problem.

Randy

""Bradley J. Wilson"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
00af01c05b92$825a9060$ca01010a@bwilson">news:00af01c05b92$825a9060$ca01010a@bwilson...
 Okay gang, I had an interesting and annoying situation yesterday morning,
 and I'd like to see if anyone else has had an experience like this:

 My client was installing an older BayStack 301 switch into their existing
 network, which consisted of a Bay Access Node router, as well as four
 stacked SynOptics LattisHubs.  The router was experiencing excessive
 collisions, hence the installation of the switch.  So we installed the
 switch and cabled the router to it, moved all the "power users" directly
 onto the switch, and left the other users attached to the hub.  We
attached
 the hub to the switch via a straight-through cable.

 The users who were directly connected to the switch had no problem
accessing
 the network and Internet.  The users on the hub were dead in the water.
We
 tried swapping out the cable between the hub and switch, tried plugging
 either end into different ports, tried flipping the MDI/MDI-X switch, and
 nothing worked.  The only thing that *did* work was using a *crossover*
 cable between the hub and the switch.

 Now, the rule (which I gleaned from this newsgroup, btw) is that when
you're
 connecting devices at different OSI layers, you use a straight-through -
 e.g. PC to hub, PC to switch, switch to router, hub to switch - that's all
 straight-through.  You use a crossover when you're connecting devices at
the
 same OSI layer - router to router, switch to switch, hub to hub, PC to PC.
 In the situation yesterday, a straight-through seemed logical, as we were
 trying to connect a hub to a switch.  Am I wrong here?  Why did the
 crossover work?

 Thanks,

 BJ

 P.S. sorry for the Bay-centric example...I'm trying to get them to change
 that. ;-)




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CVoice Exam Prep Test - Where are they?

2000-11-29 Thread Randy Blumhoff








I am looking for some practice tests for the New CVoice exam 640-647 
The only place I could find any was Boson but they only had exams for the
retired exam 640-447. If any one knows who else might have some practice
questions please let me know.



Thank you in advance



Randy Blumhoff

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