Slow WAN connections [7:65158]

2003-03-12 Thread Terry Oldham
Hello All,

 I recently posted to the newsgroup about configuring a mulitple T1
connection to a single network. I have since then got the configuration up
and running however the connection out to the net is very slow. I cannot
seem to figure out why. Here is the basics of the config:

Fasteth0ip address 172.16.100.2
 ip nat inside

Serial0 ip address 144.x.x.x
   ip nat outside

Serial1ip address 65.x.x.x
  ip nat outside

ip nat pool Qwest 65.120.161.167 65.120.161.190 netmask 255.255.255.224
ip nat pool Sprint 65.160.124.199 65.160.124.222 netmask 255.255.255.224
ip nat inside source route-map Qwest1 pool  overload
ip nat inside source route-map Sprint1 pool  overload
ip nat inside source static 172.16.100.5 65.120.161.162
ip nat inside source static 172.16.200.5 65.160.124.194
ip nat inside source static 172.16.100.6 65.120.161.163
ip nat inside source static 172.16.200.6 65.160.124.195
ip nat inside source static 172.16.100.7 65.120.161.164
ip nat inside source static 172.16.200.7 65.160.124.196
ip nat inside source static 172.16.100.8 65.120.161.165
ip nat inside source static 172.16.200.8 65.160.124.197
ip nat inside source static 172.16.100.9 65.120.161.166
ip nat inside source static 172.16.200.9 65.160.124.198
ip classless
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 65.x.x.x
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 144.x.x.x
ip route 65.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 Serial1
ip route 144.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 Serial0
ip route 172.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 FastEthernet0
ip http server
!
!
access-list 10 permit 172.16.100.0 0.0.0.255
access-list 10 permit 172.16.200.0 0.0.0.255

The Serial interfaces are not showing any kind of problems and packets are
going out of each of them.

Thanks in advance




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slow wan connection [7:65165]

2003-03-12 Thread Terry Oldham
Hello All,

 I recently posted to the newsgroup about configuring a mulitple T1
connection to a single network. I have since then got the configuration up
and running however the connection out to the net is very slow. I cannot
seem to figure out why. Here is the basics of the config:

Fasteth0ip address 172.16.100.2
 ip nat inside

Serial0 ip address 144.x.x.x
   ip nat outside

Serial1ip address 65.x.x.x
  ip nat outside

ip nat pool Qwest 65.120.161.167 65.120.161.190 netmask 255.255.255.224
ip nat pool Sprint 65.160.124.199 65.160.124.222 netmask 255.255.255.224
ip nat inside source route-map Qwest1 pool  overload
ip nat inside source route-map Sprint1 pool  overload
ip nat inside source static 172.16.100.5 65.120.161.162
ip nat inside source static 172.16.200.5 65.160.124.194
ip nat inside source static 172.16.100.6 65.120.161.163
ip nat inside source static 172.16.200.6 65.160.124.195
ip nat inside source static 172.16.100.7 65.120.161.164
ip nat inside source static 172.16.200.7 65.160.124.196
ip nat inside source static 172.16.100.8 65.120.161.165
ip nat inside source static 172.16.200.8 65.160.124.197
ip nat inside source static 172.16.100.9 65.120.161.166
ip nat inside source static 172.16.200.9 65.160.124.198
ip classless
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 65.x.x.x
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 144.x.x.x
ip route 65.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 Serial1
ip route 144.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 Serial0
ip route 172.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 FastEthernet0
ip http server
!
!
access-list 10 permit 172.16.100.0 0.0.0.255
access-list 10 permit 172.16.200.0 0.0.0.255

The Serial interfaces are not showing any kind of problems and packets are
going out of each of them.

Thanks in advance




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Load Balancing and NAT [7:64904]

2003-03-10 Thread Terry Oldham
Hello all,

 I am attempting to setup a Cisco 1721 Router with load balancing and
NAT so that we can provide a dual T1 connection to the network. This is the
first time I have done anything like this and I was wanting to know if
anyone had any good pointers they could give me or any commands that I
should beware of or add.

Thanks,

Terry O




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Re: Load Balancing and NAT [7:64904]

2003-03-10 Thread Terry Oldham
The T1's are from different providers, Qwest and Sprint.  And no we will not
be running BGP...


Troy Leliard  wrote in message
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 First big question, are your T1's from the same provider, or from a
 different provider, and thus different public ip address space?  If it
is
 from a different provider, you may well run into some problems with NAT.

 Say for example, client A connects to your webserver (via ISP A's public
IP
 address that is assigned to you, say x.x.x.x) which is then Nat'd to your
 internal RFC1918 address  That will work all fine and dandy, but what
about
 if your default gateway is ISP B's T1.  Outbound packets, returning to
 Client A, will be NAT'd to ISB B's outside address, say y.y.y.y.  If
Client
 A is behind a stateful firewall, return packets will be dropped, as it
will
 have ISP B's SRC address, and it will be expecting ISP A's.

 There are a number of ways around this, but I will wait for more detauls
 before going on.  Presumably you are not / will not be running BGP, and
have
 your own AS?

 Terry Oldham wrote:
 
  Hello all,
 
   I am attempting to setup a Cisco 1721 Router with load
  balancing and
  NAT so that we can provide a dual T1 connection to the network.
  This is the
  first time I have done anything like this and I was wanting to
  know if
  anyone had any good pointers they could give me or any commands
  that I
  should beware of or add.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Terry O




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Re: Load Balancing and NAT [7:64904]

2003-03-10 Thread Terry Oldham
More Info:

FastEthernet Int0   172.16.100.2/24
Serial0144.228.52.114 255.255.255.252   Sprint
IP Block 65.160.124.193   -65.160.124.222

Serial1 65.123.132.166  255.255.255.252  Qwest
 IP Block 65.120.161.161   -   65.120.161.190

Honestly I have bitten off a little more than I can chew on this one,
however I really need to make it work so all and
any advice will be taken.

I have been talking with Cisco a little and here is the example they sent
me:

Current configuration : 1941 bytes

version 12.2

service timestamps debug uptime

service timestamps log datetime msec localtime show-timezone

service password-encryption

hostname Inet_Router

logging buffered 4096 debugging

enable secret 5 $1$L3f5$owQH/giYdx/Gui/nASA9F1

enable password 7 13041200045D51

ip subnet-zero

ip cef

ip name-server 198.6.1.122

interface FastEthernet0/0

ip address 10.30.25.201 255.255.255.0

ip nat inside

speed 100

full-duplex

interface Serial0/0

description Verio

ip address 165.254.203.110 255.255.255.252

ip nat outside

interface Serial0/1

description CableWireless

ip address 166.63.156.102 255.255.255.252

ip nat outsid

ip nat pool Verio 209.139.11.98 209.139.11.98 netmask 255.255.255.224

ip nat pool Cable 208.168.204.2 208.168.204.2 netmask 255.255.255.0

ip nat inside source route-map Cable1 pool Cable overload

ip nat inside source route-map Verio1 pool Verio overload

ip nat inside source static 10.30.25.27 209.139.11.122

ip nat inside source static 10.30.25.25 209.139.11.120

ip nat inside source static 10.30.25.63 209.139.11.111

ip nat inside source static 10.30.25.62 209.139.11.110

ip nat inside source static 10.30.25.33 208.168.204.6

ip nat inside source static 10.30.25.32 208.168.204.5

ip nat inside source static 10.30.25.31 209.139.11.101

ip nat inside source static 10.30.25.30 209.139.11.100

ip nat inside source static 10.30.25.137 209.139.11.105

ip classless

ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 165.254.203.109

ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 166.63.156.101

ip route 10.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 FastEthernet0/0

ip http server

ip pim bidir-enable

access-list 10 permit 10.30.25.0 0.0.0.255

route-map Verio1 permit 10

match ip address 10

match interface Serial0/0

route-map Cable1 permit 10

match ip address 10

match interface Serial0/1

line con 0

login

line aux 0

line vty 0 3

login

line vty 4

login

no scheduler allocate

end



Amar KHELIFI  wrote in message
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 could u give us more info pls, as far as the IP's that you will be using.
 wasn't it u that wanted to assign 2 ip's for each server you have?
 if that is so,u can do the following:
 creat 2 VLAN's on ur switch.
 creat 2 subinterfaces on the router(must have fast ether) for the vlans.
 PBR every thing from ISP A to VLAN A, both ways.
 PBR every thing from ISP B to VLAN B, both ways.
 make sure the servers don't symetrically route the packets.
 with the above, u will have control over traffic that crosses ur router,
but
 then which IP will the clients use, depends on the DNS config, wether it
 will load balance on DNS queries is also another issue, so more or less u
 will have no control over traffic coming to ur network.

 if you had ur own net block, it would be easy to load balance, u'd have to
 call ur ISP's they will give u a community that u will joing from which
they
 will load balance, but you will need BGP, of courrse.

 but please give more information to further think it out.


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  The T1's are from different providers, Qwest and Sprint.  And no we will
 not
  be running BGP...
 
 
  Troy Leliard  wrote in message
  news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   First big question, are your T1's from the same provider, or from a
   different provider, and thus different public ip address space?  If
it
  is
   from a different provider, you may well run into some problems with
NAT.
  
   Say for example, client A connects to your webserver (via ISP A's
public
  IP
   address that is assigned to you, say x.x.x.x) which is then Nat'd to
 your
   internal RFC1918 address  That will work all fine and dandy, but what
  about
   if your default gateway is ISP B's T1.  Outbound packets, returning to
   Client A, will be NAT'd to ISB B's outside address, say y.y.y.y.  If
  Client
   A is behind a stateful firewall, return packets will be dropped, as it
  will
   have ISP B's SRC address, and it will be expecting ISP A's.
  
   There are a number of ways around this, but I will wait for more
detauls
   before going on.  Presumably you are not / will not be running BGP,
and
  have
   your own AS?
  
   Terry Oldham wrote:
   
Hello all,
   
 I am attempting to setup a Cisco 1721 Router with load
balancing and
NAT so that we can provide a dual T1 connection to the network.
This is the
first time I have done anything like this and I was wanting to
know if
anyone had any good pointers they could give me or any

Re: Multiple WAN Connections to a Network [7:64469]

2003-03-06 Thread Terry Oldham
So from what I understand BGP is going to be difficult to get going.
Basically we are too small a fish for them to worry about.

How are others handling multiple T1 lines into their networks? I would think
that this would be a common thing for companies to do. But I could be wrong
it wouldn't be the first time.


Troy Leliard  wrote in message
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 True, getting a AS for a /27 could be quiet a challenge, and even harder
 trying to convince your bgp peers to advertise that.  Fortunatley, I know
 play with a /16 and a /19.  BUt when I was contracting for another
compnay,
 I managed to get an AS for a /24, and get our peers to advertise it (was
 factored into out monthly bandwidth charges though).

 I know that there are some hacks out there that increase the
intelligence
 of DNS servers, so that may still be an option. It depens on what SLA's
you
 have to meet. Obviously the more strict your SLA requirements, the more
 cricital services are, and more likely the higher your budget.

 Anyways, moving away from the if and whens etc, lets look at possible
 solutions.

 Initially I thought what about NAT, but you can't have a many-to-one
inbound
 nat, so we can't really do much with NAT.

 The only other option I can think of, (cheaply) ...see if you can get a
/30
 from each of the providers and use this for your WAN links to them, (of
see
 if they would support IP unnumbered, although personally I am not a fan.
 This would mean that you could have both /27's for use on your internal
 ethernet, just as you suggested having one as a primary and  the other a
 secondary.

 Hope this makes sense?



 Andrew Dorsett wrote:
 
  On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, Mark W. Odette II wrote:
 
   Can you even obtain an AS for BGP without a full Class C
  block of your
   own??
 
  Mark -
  It doesn't matter how much IP Space you have to get an ASN.
  You have to
  meet ARIN guidelines.  Those are
  1. A unique routing policy.
  2. A multi-homes site.
  http://www.arin.net/policy/asn.html
 
  But, you do have to convince your peers to advertise your small
  routes.
  That's the hard part.  A lot of places don't like carrying /27
  blocks
  around in their tables.
 
  Andrew
  ---
 
  http://www.andrewsworld.net/
  ICQ: 2895251
  Cisco Certified Network Associate
 
  Learn from the mistakes of others. You won't live long enough
  to make all of them yourself.




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Multiple WAN Connections to a Network [7:64469]

2003-03-05 Thread Terry Oldham
Hello All,

 Here is what I have:
Cisco 1721 Router
2 CSU/DSU WICs
1 Ethernet Port to Network
HDLC Connection from Sprint
HDLC Connection from QWEST
Blocks of 32 IP addresses from each provider

   Here is what I have so far:

I have both T1 lines running into the router, both of the serial
ports/CSU-DSU appear to be fine and are showing UP. The Problem I am running
into is when I set the ethernet port to a Primary and a Secondary IP
address. I am setting these with numbers from the IP address block that was
given to me from QWEST and Sprint. So in essence I have this:

ip address 65.X.X.X  255.X.X.X  QWEST
ip address 65.X.X.X  255.X.X.X  Sprint  Secondary

ip address 65.X.X.X   255.X.X.X   Serial0
ip address 65.X.X.X.  255.X.X.X. Serial1

So my question is this: will this configuration work and if not what do I
need to change: From what I understand I cannot use a subinterface and I
cannot NAT.

Thanks,

Terry O




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Re: Multiple WAN Connections to a Network [7:64469]

2003-03-05 Thread Terry Oldham
Hello,

Our goal is to setup the two WAN connections for both fault tolerance and
load balancing via the router.

We want some of the server machines to have direct access to the internet
and then the rest will go through our proxy server. The computers that we
want to connect directly will be issued an IP address from the block of IP
that we were given, in fact they will be given 2 ip addresses, one from
Qwest and one from Sprint.

I too am a lowly CCNA just looking for answers...

Thanks

Steven Aiello  wrote in message
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 Terry,

I'm not totally sure what you are doing with your setup.  Are you web
 hosting and you have the 2 connections up for fault tolerance?  or some
 other reason.  Unless I am mistaken is you are running between to AS's
 on the net you need to use BGP.  ( Please all correct me if I'm wrong,
 I'm still a lowly CCNA ) But I know that when we had our Qwest line
 installed they asked us if we had another service provider for this
 reason.  Also if you are a stub network why not use default routes?
 Like I said it's hard to say for sure with out knowing what your doing.
That's just what occurred to me.  Hope it helps.

 Again please to all in the group correct me if I am mistaken, I'm more
 than happy to be corrected if it means I have a greater understanding of
 the subject.

 Steve




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Re: Multiple WAN Connections to a Network [7:64469]

2003-03-05 Thread Terry Oldham
That is correct

It is not a large setup (6-10 Servers with some MACs on the other side that
will have multiple IP's.   I have actually started to look at BGP but I am
quite unfamilar with it.

We were going to use short TTL's for the DNS and hope that the time out
would quickly redirect but it looks like that is probably not a good
idea

Do you think we should go the BGP route?

Thanks
Troy Leliard  wrote in message
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 If I follow, you have two wan conncetions providing access to you server
 farm. Some of the servers on this farm will have 2 public IP address, one
 from each of your providers?

 Presumably you aren't of a large enough size to warrant applying for you
own
 AS, and using BGP,m which is the preferred solution. (as you will see why
 below).

 The next question is how do you invisage doing load balancing / fault
 tolerance.  Presumably you will have two dns entries for your server, eg
 www.mywebserver.,com has two a records, on pointing to the Sprint IP, and
 one pointing to the Qwest IP.  If either of your wan links go down, dns is
 not intelligent enough to stop routing to the down ip address and you
will
 still have 50% traffic being dropped due to the round robin  nature of
DNS.

 Terry Oldham wrote:
 
  Hello,
 
  Our goal is to setup the two WAN connections for both fault
  tolerance and
  load balancing via the router.
 
  We want some of the server machines to have direct access to
  the internet
  and then the rest will go through our proxy server. The
  computers that we
  want to connect directly will be issued an IP address from the
  block of IP
  that we were given, in fact they will be given 2 ip addresses,
  one from
  Qwest and one from Sprint.
 
  I too am a lowly CCNA just looking for answers...
 
  Thanks
 
  Steven Aiello  wrote in message
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   Terry,
  
  I'm not totally sure what you are doing with your setup.
  Are you web
   hosting and you have the 2 connections up for fault
  tolerance?  or some
   other reason.  Unless I am mistaken is you are running
  between to AS's
   on the net you need to use BGP.  ( Please all correct me if
  I'm wrong,
   I'm still a lowly CCNA ) But I know that when we had our
  Qwest line
   installed they asked us if we had another service provider
  for this
   reason.  Also if you are a stub network why not use default
  routes?
   Like I said it's hard to say for sure with out knowing what
  your doing.
  That's just what occurred to me.  Hope it helps.
  
   Again please to all in the group correct me if I am mistaken,
  I'm more
   than happy to be corrected if it means I have a greater
  understanding of
   the subject.
  
   Steve




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