I recently used the knowledgenet BSCI course. I used it as a supplement to my studying and not my main source. it was very good in explaining the technology and hands on labs just not sure that it covered all of the details needed to pass the exam. I signed up for the exam at www.computer.org this is the IEEE site. If you join as a member of IEEE $100.00 US fee/yr you get access to the courses that they have available. I paid $44.00 only since it is prorated over the year. I did BSCI they also have Advanced Cisco wireless and other tech courses. It is a very cheap resource for studying $44.00 all you can study not bad.
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lopez, Robert Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 9:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCDA Study material [7:71111] Group, To answer the question regarding Knowledgenet from thread below...I've recently purchased a few courses from Knowledgenet - cvoice, dqos and evodd. It's basically 6 weeks of self/web-based study with hands on lab scenarios and sample exam questions for each class. My first course was cvoice. I went through the coursework just about everyday for six weeks. At the end of the six weeks I sat the cvoice exam and passed - the only material used was from knowledgenet and the cisco website - a little hand-on experience helped as well. I'm in the process of sitting the exam for dqos - this upcoming Friday... Robert -----Original Message----- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 1:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCDA Study material [7:71111] CiscoNewbie wrote: > > Great write up. Thanks. > > So what is the current exam number? 640-861 DESGN > > Is it just one exam that I have to take? Yes, It's just one exam to get CCDA. Lots of exams to get CCDP. > > Do you know what the new exam number will be or is? I think it's the same answer as the one above. It just came out but I don't think you can still take the old one, as I implied before. Cisco shouldn't change the exam for a while. It took them years to do the development on this class and test. And they did a great job, from what I can tell. > > > I was looking at taking the following course, what do > you think: > > http://www.knowledgenet.com/courselibrary/cisco/courses/desgn_pf.jsp > An advantage to taking the class is that you will get the 1,000s of pages that Cisco wrote for the course manual. I don't know much about Knowledgenet. It appears to not be a real, carbon-based classroom where you go in person to the site and can easily interract with the instructor and other people taking the class, which is a major benefit in a design class. In fact, the exercises for DESGN are designed to be done with a team. Can you do that with this Web-based training? It's possible that they do a good job with their Web-based training and simulate the real world well. I just don't know. Cisco recommends that DESGN be taught with a simulator that will let you do some design tasks. They recommend OPNET. Does Knowledgenet let you use OPNET? I would ask a few questions before shelling out a lot of money for the Knowlegenet course. Has anyone else here on GroupStudy used them? If you do use them, let us know how it goes. Thanks and good luck with your CCDA. Priscilla > > Thank you! > > > > --- Priscilla Oppenheimer > wrote: > > CiscoNewbie wrote: > > > > > > Hi all. I am going up for my CCDA cert and would > > like to know > > > what are the recommended books and material to > > study with? > > > > Nothing is out yet for the new version of the test, > > as far as I know. Your > > best bet would be to take the instructor-led class, > > if you can afford it. > > With a good instructor, I think DESGN could be a > > really great class. It's > > got tons of meat now, much more than before. It has > > a big focus on systems > > analysis as it is taught at universities, as a real > > discipline, not just a > > bunch of hand-waving. The class also has a huge > > scope, covering almost > > everything you ever wanted to know related to campus > > and enterprise > > networks, from business (which they call social or > > organizational) goals, > > technical goals, topologies, architectures, modular > > design, addressing > > (including IPv6), routing, voice, network > > management, and security. > > > > One focus is on the SAFE architecture, so look that > > up on Cisco's site and > > learn it. There's also some AVVID stuff > > > > Many of the course modules are partially based on my > > book Top-Down Network > > Design. Many of the modules say that Top-Down > > Network Design is recommended > > reading. Top-Down Network Design doesn't cover some > > newer topics, though, > > such as SAFE and AVVID, although it did cover voice > > in a limited fashion, > > since Cisco has been harping on that for years now. > > DESGN covers voice in > > gory detail, however. It seems to have all of the > > old CVOICE course in it. > > > > Each module in DESGN has many chapters, each of > > which is literally hundreds > > of pages long. The person turning it into a book > > (not me unfortunately) is > > going to have a heyday. :-) > > > > I haven't taken the new test, but if it really tests > > all that's in the > > course, it's going to be one of the hardest tests > > out there (and that's a > > good thing. It's about time design got some respect. > > :-) > > > > Anyway, bottom line: if you can take the older > > version of the test, then > > there's lots of study materials. If you have to take > > the newer version, then > > you should take the instructor-led DESGN class or > > wait a few months for > > study material. > > > > Priscilla > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > SBC Yahoo! 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