ping and trace [7:17802]

2001-08-29 Thread birdy

Dear All

Can anyone tell me what is the difference doing a trace and a ping with the
extended menu turn on ?

Regards
birdy




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Re: ping and trace [7:17802]

2001-08-29 Thread birdy

Brian

Thanks for the response :)

supposingly i do a trace from my router to 202.4.185.101
and it shows the following results :

Type escape sequence to abort.
Tracing the route to 202.4.185.101

  1 202.161.130.18 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
  2 12.125.92.37 [AS 7018] 56 msec 52 msec 60 msec
  3 12.123.195.18 [AS 7018] 100 msec 100 msec 100 msec
  4 gbr6-p30.sffca.ip.att.net (12.123.13.162) [AS 7018] 52 msec 48 msec 48
msec
  5 12.122.11.65 [AS 7018] 56 msec 52 msec 52 msec
  6 12.122.11.218 [AS 7018] 48 msec 48 msec 48 msec
  7 above-att-2.sjc2.above.net (208.184.232.153) [AS 6461] 56 msec 60 msec
60 msec
  8 ord2-sjc2-oc48.ord2.above.net (208.184.233.46) [AS 6461] 136 msec 136
msec 132 msec
  9 lga1-ord2-oc48-2.lga1.above.net (208.185.156.158) [AS 6461] 156 msec 156
msec 156 msec
 10 lhr3-lga1-stm64.lhr3.above.net (64.125.31.181) [AS 6461] 268 msec 268
msec 264 msec
 11 core2-lhr3-stm16.lhr1.above.net (208.185.156.1) [AS 6461] 260 msec 260
msec 260 msec
 12 nss-above.lhr.above.net (208.185.188.34) [AS 6461] 260 msec 260 msec 260
msec
 13 63-109-249-230.newskies.net (63.109.249.230) [AS 17175] 268 msec 268
msec 268 msec
 14 63.100.208.26 [AS 17175] 764 msec 760 msec 764 msec

however,when i do a ping with EXTENDED COMMANDS turn on (not extended
menu,my apologies)
this is the results

kap-cdr-03>ping
Protocol [ip]:
Target IP address: 202.1 4.185.101
Repeat count [5]:
Datagram size [100]:
Timeout in seconds [2]: 1
Extended commands [n]: y
Source address or interface: 202.161.130.25 49
Type of service [0]:
Set DF bit in IP header? [no]:
Validate reply data? [no]: y
Data pattern [0xABCD]:
Loose, Strict, Record, Timestamp, Verbose[none]: rec
Number of hops [ 9 ]:
Loose, Strict, Record, Timestamp, Verbose[RV]:
Sweep range of sizes [n]:
Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 202.4.185.101, timeout is 1 seconds:
Packet has IP options:  Total option bytes= 39, padded length=40
 Record route: 
   (0.0.0.0)
   (0.0.0.0)
   (0.0.0.0)
   (0.0.0.0)
   (0.0.0.0)
   (0.0.0.0)
   (0.0.0.0)
   (0.0.0.0)
   (0.0.0.0)

Request 0 timed out
Reply to request 1 (924 ms).  Received packet has options
 Total option bytes= 40, padded length=40
 Record route:
   (202.161.130.22)
   (12.125.92.38)
   (12.123.195.17)
   gar3-p370.sffca.ip.att.net (12.123.13.161)
   gbr6-p100.sffca.ip.att.net (12.122.11.78)
   (12.122.11.217)
   att-above-2.sjc2.above.net (208.184.232.154)
   sjc2-ord2-oc48.sjc2.above.net (208.184.233.45)
   core2-loop.ord2.above.net (209.249.254.58)
   
 End of list

Reply to request 2 (796 ms).  Received packet has options
 Total option bytes= 40, padded length=40
 Record route:
   (202.161.130.22)
   (12.125.92.38)
   (12.123.195.6)
   gar1-p360.sffca.ip.att.net (12.123.13.57)
   (12.122.11.66)
   (12.122.11.217)
   att-above-2.sjc2.above.net (208.184.232.154)
   sjc2-ord2-oc48.sjc2.above.net (208.184.233.45)
   core2-loop.ord2.above.net (209.249.254.58)
   
 End of list

Reply to request 3 (772 ms).  Received packet has options
 Total option bytes= 40, padded length=40
 Record route:
   (202.161.130.22)
   (12.125.92.38)
   (12.123.195.9)
   gar3-p370.sffca.ip.att.net (12.123.13.161)
   gbr6-p100.sffca.ip.att.net (12.122.11.78)
   (12.122.11.217)
   att-above-2.sjc2.above.net (208.184.232.154)
   sjc2-ord2-oc48.sjc2.above.net (208.184.233.45)
   core2-loop.ord2.above.net (209.249.254.58)
   
 End of list

Reply to request 4 (768 ms).  Received packet has options
 Total option bytes= 40, padded length=40
 Record route:
   (202.161.130.22)
   (12.125.92.38)
   (12.123.195.6)
   gar1-p360.sffca.ip.att.net (12.123.13.57)
   (12.122.11.66)
   (12.122.11.217)
   att-above-2.sjc2.above.net (208.184.232.154)
   sjc2-ord2-oc48.sjc2.above.net (208.184.233.45)
   core2-loop.ord2.above.net (209.249.254.58)
   
 End of list

Success rate is 80 percent (4/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 768/815/924 ms

so now u see what i mean

with trace it hit
63.100.208.26 [AS 17175] 764 msec 760 msec 764 msec

with ping (extended command turn on)
it hit
core2-loop.ord2.above.net (209.249.254.58)

even though i am trace and pinging to the same address which is
202.4.185.101,it seems that trace seems to provide a more information than
ping with the extended menu turn on

hope i have explained myself clearly :)

thanks

Rgds
birdy




""Brian""  wrote in message
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> I think u need to elaborate a little.  Non extended ping just sends 5
> packets to the host and spits results.  Extended ping lets you manipulate
> many facets of the test.
>
> Brian
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "birdy"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 9:57 PM
> Subject: ping and trace [7:17802]
>
>
> > Dear All
> >
> > Can anyone tell me what is the difference doing a trace and a ping with
> the
> > extended menu turn on ?
> >
> > Regards
> > birdy




Message 

Trace results [7:20878]

2001-09-23 Thread birdy

Dear all

Can anyone tell me what is the meaning of !A as listed below
also what does !H means as well

Thanks

Regards
bird


Tracing the route to krwww.yahoo.co.kr (211.32.119.135)

  1 202.161.130.18 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
  2 12.126.195.45 [AS 7018] 52 msec 52 msec 52 msec
  3 gbr1-p70.sffca.ip.att.net (12.123.13.58) [AS 7018] 52 msec 52 msec 52
msec
  4 12.122.11.65 [AS 7018] 52 msec 56 msec 52 msec
  5 12.122.11.218 [AS 7018] 52 msec 52 msec 52 msec
  6 above-att-2.sjc2.above.net (208.184.232.153) [AS 6461] 56 msec 56 msec 56
ms
ec
  7 pao1-sjc2-oc48-2.pao1.above.net (208.185.175.162) [AS 6461] 56 msec 56
msec
56 msec
  8 abovenet.paix.bora.net (209.133.31.36) [AS 6461] 60 msec 56 msec 60 msec
  9 p4.bora.net (203.255.234.54) [AS 3786] 56 msec 60 msec
p4.bora.net (203.255.234.44) [AS 3786] 56 msec
 10 203.255.234.201 [AS 3786] 180 msec
203.255.234.133 [AS 3786] 180 msec
203.255.234.193 [AS 3786] 176 msec
 11 203.233.35.110 [AS 3786] 180 msec 180 msec
203.233.35.106 [AS 3786] 180 msec
 12  *
211.233.55.51 [AS 3786] 184 msec 184 msec
 13 k1c9-4231.sw.kidc.net (211.233.55.238) [AS 3786] 184 msec *  180 msec
 14 211.233.26.254 [AS 3786] 180 msec 180 msec 176 msec
 15  *  *  !A




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IP unnumbered [7:21794]

2001-10-02 Thread birdy

Dear all

can anyone tell me what is IP unnumbered ?

Regards, birdy




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VPN [7:22022]

2001-10-04 Thread birdy

Dear All

Can anyone suggest where i can find information on VPN.

Any suggested link for reading ?

10Q

Regards
Kok Wah




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bandwidth question [7:49002]

2002-07-17 Thread birdy

Can anyone tell me why

I have 2 Mbps WAN connection that reached 95 % utilisation during peak time.
When I try to ping to my provider serial interface(next hop),it register 10%
packet loss

My router serial interface is showing 1.9Mbps (incoming traffic). Since the
router is receiving 1.9 Mbps out of the 2M pipe,which means that there is
still a balance of 0.1 Mbps (100 k) and so therotically speaking, there
should not be any packet loss.

I think is time for me to upgrade my bandwidth




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Re: bandwidth question [7:49002]

2002-07-17 Thread birdy

Dear priscilla

Thanks for your reply :)

Wellthe 10% packet loss happen at the peak time...and that can happen
for a period of 3-4 hours

No packet loss was observed during off peak hours.

I rememeber reading something on a cisco article which states that WAN
performance will worsen when it gets over 70 % utilised. As for my link it
is around 96-98% utilised so i guess the cisco guideline is right ...



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> birdy wrote:
> >
> > Can anyone tell me why
> >
> > I have 2 Mbps WAN connection that reached 95 % utilisation
> > during peak time.
>
> For how long was it at 95%? That would definitely worry me, unless it
turned
> out that "the peak" was just a few seconds or something.
>
> > When I try to ping to my provider serial interface(next hop),it
> > register 10%
> > packet loss
> >
> > My router serial interface is showing 1.9Mbps (incoming
> > traffic). Since the
> > router is receiving 1.9 Mbps out of the 2M pipe,which means
> > that there is
> > still a balance of 0.1 Mbps (100 k) and so therotically
> > speaking, there
> > should not be any packet loss.
>
> Pings may not be a good way to measure packet loss because the provider
may
> rate limit its responses to pings. But even if that's not the case, there
> could be packet loss when the average utilization was 95%. Over how much
> time was the average calculated? There could have been times when the
> utilization was 50% and there could have been times (like right when you
> were sending the pings) when the utilization was 100% and packets had to
get
> dropped. That could still work out to an average of 95%.
>
> >
> > I think is time for me to upgrade my bandwidth
>
> That could be true, but you may want to do a more detailed study over a
> longer timeframe, (unless users are already making a stink).
>
> Good luck.
>
> Priscilla




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Re: bandwidth question [7:49002]

2002-07-17 Thread birdy

Dear Phil

Thanks for the reply...:)

The below is from my router and it seems that both the tx and rx load is not
over 90% utilised.

reliability 255/255, txload 81/255, rxload 162/255

This reading is taken when my bandwidth usage is around 1.96Mbps. My pipe is
only 2Mbps. At this point in time, packet loss is still happening...



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> Possibly, but is anyone actually complaining about the
> speed ?
>
> Check the serial interface at your end also for
> dropped packets, load, reliability etc over a period
> of about a week. If that average is over 90% then you
> may well do with an upgrade.
>
> Phil.
>
>  --- birdy  wrote: > Can anyone
> tell me why
> >
> > I have 2 Mbps WAN connection that reached 95 %
> > utilisation during peak time.
> > When I try to ping to my provider serial
> > interface(next hop),it register 10%
> > packet loss
> >
> > My router serial interface is showing 1.9Mbps
> > (incoming traffic). Since the
> > router is receiving 1.9 Mbps out of the 2M
> > pipe,which means that there is
> > still a balance of 0.1 Mbps (100 k) and so
> > therotically speaking, there
> > should not be any packet loss.
> >
> > I think is time for me to upgrade my bandwidth
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private addressing [7:49083]

2002-07-17 Thread birdy

Can anyone tell me.

172.16.0.0 - 172.31.0.0 is used for class B private addressing..

That means that it can use 16 class B network address

Now, let say I wan to use 172.35.0.0 block, so is this consider a private
address or a public address ?




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WAN utilisation [7:49105]

2002-07-18 Thread birdy

Hi

Does cisco recommends that if the WAN utilisation is above 70 % ,it will
cause performance degradation ? I think i have read it somewhere in one of
the ciscopress book. Can someone out there verify this for me ?

Thanks




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