Re: Export Control with 3DES encryption [7:60573]
Thank you very much! This page bring me directly to the registration page. However, I am wondering if I register with Cisco or with some government organization? If I register with Cisco link below, will they automatically submit it to certain government organization? Thanks much! Thomas The Long and Winding Road wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... yes, here is a link on the Cisco web site: http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin//Software/Crypto/crypto_main.pl this should get you started. HTH -- TANSTAAFL there ain't no such thing as a free lunch Thomas N. wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi All, I plan to buy VPN routers, ship them to Japan then deploy VPN between Cisco routers using 3DES encryption between Japan and U.S. for my company. Do I need to register with the government or certain organization? How the process work? Also, where can I find a list of countries allowed to export 3DES products to? Thanks All in advance! Thomas Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=60707t=60573 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Export Control with 3DES encryption [7:60573]
Here is a link to the BXA page about exporting encryption. They way I read it, and applied it, is you don't need permission or registration to use 3DES in countries except in countries labeled as terrorist countries or if you organization falls into the terrorist category. If you are sending commercial software to U.S. companies and their subsidiaries for internal company use it is just fine with the U.S. Government. As far as I can tell site-to-site VPN's fall into this category as well as VPN remote access by employees, interns, or contractors. I think we have some ex-lawyers on the list and would be very interested in their interpretation. If I'm incorrect, I've got a very big problem and would like to correct it as soon as possible. Feedback encouraged. http://www.bxa.doc.gov/Encryption/EncFactSheet6_17_02.html U.S. Department of Commerce * Bureau of Industry and Security Office of Strategic Trade Foreign Policy Controls Information Technology Controls Division COMMERCIAL ENCRYPTION EXPORT CONTROLS License Exception ENC eligibility for equipment controlled under ECCN 5B002 The new rule clarifies that test, inspection and production equipment controlled under ECCN 5B002 is eligible for export and reexport to U.S. subsidiaries, government and non-government end-users in the European Union (plus the eight additional countries) and non-government end-users in all other countries (except in Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Libya, North Korea, Sudan, Syria) under the provisions of License Exception ENC. Certain encryption items may be exported and reexported without review or notification This rule clarifies that, when a license is not otherwise required, no review or notification is required to export or reexport the following: 1. Encryption items (including technology and source code) to U.S. companies and their subsidiaries (except exports and reexports to subsidiaries located in designated terrorist supporting countries, and encryption technology or source code to foreign nationals of these countries) for internal company use, including the development of new products by employees, contractors and interns of U.S. companies. Exporters are referred to Section 734.2 of the EAR for applicable definitions of export and reexport that apply to encryption source code and technology. (The encryption products that are developed using these items are subject to the EAR and require review before they are sold or transferred outside the company.) -Original Message- From: Thomas N. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 8:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Export Control with 3DES encryption [7:60573] Thank you very much! This page bring me directly to the registration page. However, I am wondering if I register with Cisco or with some government organization? If I register with Cisco link below, will they automatically submit it to certain government organization? Thanks much! Thomas The Long and Winding Road wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... yes, here is a link on the Cisco web site: http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin//Software/Crypto/crypto_main.pl this should get you started. HTH -- TANSTAAFL there ain't no such thing as a free lunch Thomas N. wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi All, I plan to buy VPN routers, ship them to Japan then deploy VPN between Cisco routers using 3DES encryption between Japan and U.S. for my company. Do I need to register with the government or certain organization? How the process work? Also, where can I find a list of countries allowed to export 3DES products to? Thanks All in advance! Thomas Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=60737t=60573 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Export Control with 3DES encryption [7:60573]
Hi All, I plan to buy VPN routers, ship them to Japan then deploy VPN between Cisco routers using 3DES encryption between Japan and U.S. for my company. Do I need to register with the government or certain organization? How the process work? Also, where can I find a list of countries allowed to export 3DES products to? Thanks All in advance! Thomas Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=60573t=60573 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Export Control with 3DES encryption [7:60573]
yes, here is a link on the Cisco web site: http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin//Software/Crypto/crypto_main.pl this should get you started. HTH -- TANSTAAFL there ain't no such thing as a free lunch Thomas N. wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi All, I plan to buy VPN routers, ship them to Japan then deploy VPN between Cisco routers using 3DES encryption between Japan and U.S. for my company. Do I need to register with the government or certain organization? How the process work? Also, where can I find a list of countries allowed to export 3DES products to? Thanks All in advance! Thomas Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=60575t=60573 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 3des encryption -- darn! repost [7:11490]
You got it... I'm not sure of the exact figure but there is definitely overhead on the cpu for 3DES... It depends on the configuration and it could be substantial... wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Thanks for the info. Indeed I meant packet size. Funny that you mention cpu utilization. I found myself bickering with our Cisco reseller over the difference in cpu load between DES and 3DES. He said there was no difference and I saw (somewhere) on CCO that it was nearly 50% more processor intensive on a PIX using 3DES than on (ordinary) DES. Matthew -Original Message- From: Dennis H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 1:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 3des encryption -- darn! repost [7:11490] What do you mean by payload? I assume you mean packet size. I don't have the exact figures but I the overhead on packet size is about 10%. The overhead on the CPU utilization could be 100%, which might be what he is thinking of. Dennis wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sorry for repost, but part of my email was mis-interpreted as html.. I'm currently in a debate with one of my co-workers about the payload increase that 3des encryption would cause. I am sensing I may be wrong here, but I was thinking that the payload increase for 3des encryption would be a nominal 10% increase over non-encrypted traffic, however my cohort believes that there would be 2x increase in payload. Would anyone have a reasonable estimate, or better yet, hard data regarding this issue? As always, thanks in advance Matthew Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=11697t=11490 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 3des encryption -- darn! repost [7:11490]
What do you mean by payload? I assume you mean packet size. I don't have the exact figures but I the overhead on packet size is about 10%. The overhead on the CPU utilization could be 100%, which might be what he is thinking of. Dennis wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sorry for repost, but part of my email was mis-interpreted as html.. I'm currently in a debate with one of my co-workers about the payload increase that 3des encryption would cause. I am sensing I may be wrong here, but I was thinking that the payload increase for 3des encryption would be a nominal 10% increase over non-encrypted traffic, however my cohort believes that there would be 2x increase in payload. Would anyone have a reasonable estimate, or better yet, hard data regarding this issue? As always, thanks in advance Matthew Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=11562t=11490 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
3DES encryption
Does anyone know a good web site with a brief overview of 3DES encryption and how it works ? Regards Iain Fomes London Systems 44 207 397 9347 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
3DES encryption
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Re: 3DES encryption
Does anyone know a good web site with a brief overview of 3DES encryption and how it works ? When you say "how it works" do you mean the algorithm? ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 3DES encryption
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Check out http://csrc.nist.gov/publications/nistpubs/index.html. See NIST special publication 800-20. Jason -Original Message- From: Fomes Iain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 10:25 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: 3DES encryption Does anyone know a good web site with a brief overview of 3DES encryption and how it works ? ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.3 iQA/AwUBOYWpXNhemda0oU58EQJRAgCfTfVR2ehjOlZ0M1BpQi1jcmCPldIAnjiA Gk9yP4yaCknakObNNLXRHfWR =L8AW -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 3DES encryption
This has a good explanation. http://www.ssh.fi/tech/crypto/algorithms.html Karen E Young Network Engineer ELF Technologies, Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fomes Iain fomes.i@mellTo: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on.com cc: Sent by: Subject: 3DES encryption nobody@groups tudy.com 07/31/00 08:14 AM Please respond to Fomes Iain Does anyone know a good web site with a brief overview of 3DES encryption and how it works ? Regards Iain Fomes London Systems 44 207 397 9347 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
