Another strange routing behaviour

2001-02-16 Thread Deloso, Elmer G (WPNSTA Yorktown)

Hi, all.
I might have posted something similar to this not too long ago but I might
not have beed specific enough. Here's the story:

HostA ---Router1---Router9HostB

If i traceroute from within Router1 to HostB, it goes through.
But if i do the same from HostA, it stops at Router9.
The same thing happens when tracerouting from HostB's end, it stops
at Router1.
So i checked with another network that also has a route to Router9,
ans the same story happens. From the Router-Y the trace gets to
HostB. But from Host-Y it stops at Router9.
Has anyone else seen this and figured out the cause?
Thanks.

Elmer Deloso

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Re: Another strange routing behaviour

2001-02-16 Thread John Neiberger

This sounds like an access list problem somewhere.  It could be on
Router9, or it could be on the other routers.  Outgoing access lists do
not filter packets originated from the routers themselves.  So, you
could have an access list blocking outgoing ICMP that would still allow
the router itself to originate a trace but would block any other hosts
from doing the same thing.

Or, perhaps you have an access list on Router9 that is blocking ICMP
from other networks, but not directly attached networks/routers.

I would initially take the following steps:  Telnet to router9, turn
off logging to the console and turn on icmp debugging.  Try a trace from
Router1 and then one from HostA.  Turn off debugging and examine the
logs.  (assuming that you were logging in the first place.)  Then go to
Router1 and repeat the process.   That might help pinpoint where the
problem actually lies.

HTH,
John

>>> "Deloso, Elmer G (WPNSTA Yorktown)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
2/16/01 9:03:32 AM >>>
Hi, all.
I might have posted something similar to this not too long ago but I
might
not have beed specific enough. Here's the story:

HostA ---Router1---Router9HostB

If i traceroute from within Router1 to HostB, it goes through.
But if i do the same from HostA, it stops at Router9.
The same thing happens when tracerouting from HostB's end, it stops
at Router1.
So i checked with another network that also has a route to Router9,
ans the same story happens. From the Router-Y the trace gets to
HostB. But from Host-Y it stops at Router9.
Has anyone else seen this and figured out the cause?
Thanks.

Elmer Deloso

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Re: Another strange routing behaviour

2001-02-16 Thread Brandon Ripper

Hello,

 From personal experience I would point the finger at access lists. 
Take this scenario into account

Host A  ->  RouterA -> (wan) -> RouterB -> HostB
192.168.1.0  192.168.2.0  192.168.3.0

Ok, if you had an access list that say permitted traffic to exit on Router 
A from Router B it would get to HostA, BUT that same access list would not 
permit HostB on a different subnet to Talk to Host A. That would require 
RouterA to know about Host B's subnet and allow routing from it. The same 
holds true crossing the link in the opposite direction.

Brandon Ripper
CCNA

PS This would happen on the entire net because off same config problem 
every place, or possibly lack of config.


At 11:03 AM 2/16/01 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi, all.
>I might have posted something similar to this not too long ago but I might
>not have beed specific enough. Here's the story:
>
>HostA ---Router1---Router9HostB
>
>If i traceroute from within Router1 to HostB, it goes through.
>But if i do the same from HostA, it stops at Router9.
>The same thing happens when tracerouting from HostB's end, it stops
>at Router1.
>So i checked with another network that also has a route to Router9,
>ans the same story happens. From the Router-Y the trace gets to
>HostB. But from Host-Y it stops at Router9.
>Has anyone else seen this and figured out the cause?
>Thanks.
>
>Elmer Deloso
>
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Re: Another strange routing behaviour

2001-02-16 Thread anthony kim


--- "Deloso, Elmer G (WPNSTA Yorktown)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, all.
> I might have posted something similar to this not too long ago but I
> might
> not have beed specific enough. Here's the story:
> 
> HostA ---Router1---Router9HostB
> 
> If i traceroute from within Router1 to HostB, it goes through.

Which leads me to believe Router 9 is not filtering high UDP packets, ICMP
Time Exceeded, or ICMP Destination Port Unreachable.

> But if i do the same from HostA, it stops at Router9.

Router 9 may be filtering ICMP echo reply packets. (Echo request packets
go through because Host B's traceroute stops at Router 1 not at 9.) A
Windows host uses ICMP Echo (instead of high port UDP) packets when using
"tracert". Everyone else traceroutes normally.


> The same thing happens when tracerouting from HostB's end, it stops
> at Router1.

I wonder if it's the access-lists? 

> So i checked with another network that also has a route to Router9,
> ans the same story happens. From the Router-Y the trace gets to
> HostB. But from Host-Y it stops at Router9.
> Has anyone else seen this and figured out the cause?


Check if "ping" from the routers to each of the hosts works.



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