Re: BGP CASE [7:30620]

2002-01-04 Thread suaveguru

That's easy you can give your client one CIDR block
and have him advertised this CIDR block to you. You
will not have to do anything as you could have
aggregrated the CIDR block supernet and advertised it
to your upstream providers like Sprint , ATT etc.


regards,

suaveguru
--- Jason  wrote:
 If the client wants to use YOUR address block...
 this is probably the
 easiest $$$ you can earn... :-)) Tough luck to him
 though
 
 
 
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  We are ISP with AS  advertised in Ripe, and we
 have number of class C . A
  client want to use some class C of mine and he
 wants to BGP peer with me
 and
  advertise this classes to me. The client has its
 own registered AS in
 Ripe.
  How can we do that?
 
  Thanks and best regards
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Re: BGP CASE [7:30620]

2002-01-04 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

That's easy you can give your client one CIDR block
and have him advertised this CIDR block to you. You
will not have to do anything as you could have
aggregrated the CIDR block supernet and advertised it
to your upstream providers like Sprint , ATT etc.


regards,

suaveguru

But if you hide the customer block in your aggregate, and the other 
provider advertises only the more specific block, all the traffic 
will go via the other provider unless the other provider is down. For 
multihoming to work, you need to advertise both the aggregate and the 
more-specific, while the other provider advertises the more-specific 
of your address space.

It's also a good idea that all of these policies are recorded in a 
routing registry. Otherwise, other providers may generate filters 
that do not consider the multihoming structure.




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BGP CASE [7:30620]

2002-01-01 Thread Ismail M Saeed

We are ISP with AS  advertised in Ripe, and we have number of class C . A
client want to use some class C of mine and he wants to BGP peer with me and
advertise this classes to me. The client has its own registered AS in Ripe.
How can we do that?

Thanks and best regards




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Re: BGP CASE [7:30620]

2002-01-01 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

We are ISP with AS  advertised in Ripe, and we have number of class C . A
client want to use some class C of mine and he wants to BGP peer with me and
advertise this classes to me. The client has its own registered AS in Ripe.
How can we do that?

Thanks and best regards


A good first start would be to examine your customer's and your 
routing policies as recorded in the RIPE routing registry.  The 
customer presumably already advertises its prefixes to other AS, and 
it needs to do the same to you.

Assuming the customer's goal is to gain additional availability, you 
certainly need to readvertise those prefixes to your upstreams.  If 
you have other customers that default to you, those connections need 
no changes.




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Re: BGP CASE [7:30620]

2002-01-01 Thread Jason

If the client wants to use YOUR address block... this is probably the
easiest $$$ you can earn... :-)) Tough luck to him though



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 We are ISP with AS  advertised in Ripe, and we have number of class C . A
 client want to use some class C of mine and he wants to BGP peer with me
and
 advertise this classes to me. The client has its own registered AS in
Ripe.
 How can we do that?

 Thanks and best regards




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Re: BGP CASE [7:30620]

2002-01-01 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

I'm afraid this is turning into one of those operational realities 
where your best course of action is hiring a competent consultant to 
take you through the planning and implementation.

Some of the issues that will need to be examined include:

1. Are you, the other ISP, both, or neither designated by RIPE NCC as
   Local Internet Registries?  At least one LIR will have to work with
   the RIPE NCC.
2. I'm troubled by your repeated use of the term class, which has no
   place in discussions of Internet routing, and the term owned with
   relation to them. The terms prefixes and allocation (the latter
   versus assignment) MUST be understood here.  If all the ISPs
involved
   don't understand them fully, they can very well produce designs in
   which RIPE NCC won't allocate more address space in the future.
3. There's no discussion of aggregation requirements and the need of
   a multihoming policy that advertises some more-specifics.
4. It's unclear if a link failure should cause the complete shift of
   advertised prefixes.  Would normal BGP suffice, or does one ISP
   need to use the Cisco conditional advertisement feature?
5. The coordination can't just be with RIPE or the relevant LIR; it has
   to involve the other ISP as well. If both ISPs don't agree to
advertise
   pieces of each others' address spaces, and/or don't register policies
   in the RIPE NCC routing registry that reflects this, higher-level
   providers that generate filters from the routing registry may very
   well refuse some of your routes, the customer's routes, etc.

You'll want to read all relevant RIPE NCC documents on multihoming 
and AS allocation policy. They do have classes that can help in part 
of this. Consider attending the RIPE meeting in Amsterdam later this 
month and meeting some of the key people -- you might get enough help 
informally to be OK.


Thx for your fast reply
Actually this customer has two links, one to me and the second to another
ISP. Also he uses some classes owned by me and other classes owned by the
other provider.
The case is he needs to BGP peer with me and with the other provider and to
advertise the whole classes (owned by me and the other provider) to me and
the other provider.
In case one of the links failed he will still get his all classes from the
other provider
So can u please advise what to do with Ripe to achieve this?

Thanks and best regards
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Ismail M Saeed
Senior Network Engineer
GEGA NET
Tel. +202-4149771 ext.125
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  We are ISP with AS  advertised in Ripe, and we have number of class C .
A
  client want to use some class C of mine and he wants to BGP peer with me
and
  advertise this classes to me. The client has its own registered AS in
Ripe.
  How can we do that?
  
  Thanks and best regards
  

  A good first start would be to examine your customer's and your
  routing policies as recorded in the RIPE routing registry.  The
  customer presumably already advertises its prefixes to other AS, and
  it needs to do the same to you.

  Assuming the customer's goal is to gain additional availability, you
  certainly need to readvertise those prefixes to your upstreams.  If
  you have other customers that default to you, those connections need
  no changes.




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