Re: BSCN vs. ACRC - BGP focus
http://www.mrtd.net/ you can get BGPSIM here go hurt yourselves heh sheeesh yet another folder in the to do list. Maybe one of you programmer types can compile this into an exe for us kernal impaired folks. Was Tone that said BGP = Bloody Great Pain hehe Oz http://www.mcseco-op.com/Cheap_Cisco_stuff.htm ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSCN vs. ACRC
""Zhao Meng"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 8jecd2$3m9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8jecd2$3m9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Can anybody tell me what is the difference between BSCN and ACRC.Is it sufficient to study old prepare material ,such as Todd Lemmel's CCNP:Advanced Cisco Router Configuration Study Guide and Cisco's ACRC book? BSCN focuses on: Scalable routing protocols: OSPF (new - OSPF over FR) EIGRP (new - Query Scoping, EIGRP over FR) BGP (all new, two chapters) Route Redistribution (similar to ACRC) Policy Routing and Route-Map (all new) Lots of lab time (12 new labs) Gone from ACRC are: Access list (IP and IPX ACL covered in ICND) Queuing (covered in BCRAN) ISDN and DDR (covered in ICND and BCRAN) Bridging Be aware - be VERY aware - that the BGP content of the new class is quite significant and substantially weightier than the old ACRC class. Just a quick plug - IBM Canada is offering BSCN at the end of August. See the following page for details: Internet: http://www.can.ibm.com/services/learning/net_internet.html -- Edward Solomon CCNA, CCSI Senior I/T Specialist Networking Solutions IBM Canada Ltd. - Learning Services Tel.: (905) 316-3241 Fax: (905) 316-3101 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet: http://www.can.ibm.com/services/learning/net_internet.html ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSCN vs. ACRC - BGP focus
Let me just state that as an engineer now working on a BGP implementation, I think that a better decision was made to focus on it as a routing protocol and get rid of some of the overlap. Let's face it - with the exception of static routes, BGP is the protocol that ties the I-net and many private networks together. Time to start making it a focal point of Advanced Cisco Routing. From: "Edward Solomon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "Edward Solomon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: BSCN vs. ACRC Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:45:44 -0400 ""Zhao Meng"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 8jecd2$3m9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8jecd2$3m9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Can anybody tell me what is the difference between BSCN and ACRC.Is it sufficient to study old prepare material ,such as Todd Lemmel's CCNP:Advanced Cisco Router Configuration Study Guide and Cisco's ACRC book? BSCN focuses on: Scalable routing protocols: OSPF (new - OSPF over FR) EIGRP (new - Query Scoping, EIGRP over FR) BGP (all new, two chapters) Route Redistribution (similar to ACRC) Policy Routing and Route-Map (all new) Lots of lab time (12 new labs) Gone from ACRC are: Access list (IP and IPX ACL covered in ICND) Queuing (covered in BCRAN) ISDN and DDR (covered in ICND and BCRAN) Bridging Be aware - be VERY aware - that the BGP content of the new class is quite significant and substantially weightier than the old ACRC class. Just a quick plug - IBM Canada is offering BSCN at the end of August. See the following page for details: Internet: http://www.can.ibm.com/services/learning/net_internet.html -- Edward Solomon CCNA, CCSI Senior I/T Specialist Networking Solutions IBM Canada Ltd. - Learning Services Tel.: (905) 316-3241 Fax: (905) 316-3101 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet: http://www.can.ibm.com/services/learning/net_internet.html ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: BSCN vs. ACRC - BGP focus
How does the ROUTING exam focuses on BGP? Just the protocol, or the politics and implementation issues for the internet as well? I've been lurking on the NANOG and IETF lists and I see that there's a lot more to routing in the internet than BGP. I'm asking, too, because the BGP2 paper on certzone talks about these issues as well. Francisco Muniz. "Edward Solomon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió en el mensaje de noticias 8jfur0$doe$[EMAIL PROTECTED] ""Russ Brown"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Let me just state that as an engineer now working on a BGP implementation, I think that a better decision was made to focus on it as a routing protocol and get rid of some of the overlap. Let's face it - with the exception of static routes, BGP is the protocol that ties the I-net and many private networks together. Time to start making it a focal point of Advanced Cisco Routing. True. Also, I failed to mention before that there are new case studies and labs, and the labs constitute about half the course time. Each chapter has a case study and most have at least one lab. There is no more IPX, AppleTalk or DECnet either, nor are there any access-lists and there is more detail on the way in which the routing protocols function, particularly E-IGRP and BGP. -- Edward Solomon CCNA, CCSI Senior I/T Specialist Networking Solutions IBM Canada Ltd. - Learning Services Tel.: (905) 316-3241 Fax: (905) 316-3101 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet: http://www.can.ibm.com/services/learning/net_internet.html ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: BSCN vs. ACRC - BGP focus
How does the ROUTING exam focuses on BGP? Just the protocol, or the politics and implementation issues for the internet as well? I've been lurking on the NANOG and IETF lists and I see that there's a lot more to routing in the internet than BGP. I'm asking, too, because the BGP2 paper on certzone talks about these issues as well. Francisco Muniz. Let me share my thinking on the CertificationZone BGP series that I'm writing. To a significant extent, I'm recreating my own learning experience with Internet routing. As you suggest, Francisco, that is much more than BGP. Personally, I found BGP proper very hard to understand until I focused on what problems it was intended to solve, rather than the details of the protocol. Great lights dawned for me when I dug into routing policy documents, first RIPE-181 and now several RFCs and tutorials on Routing Policy Specification Language (RPSL). NANOG and IETF work also helped a great deal. I haven't seen the new Cisco courseware. ACRC, at least 11.2 where I was involved in development, was awful on BGP. It had a lot of hand-waving, and the labs had NOTHING to do with real-world requirements. My sense is that the CCIE lab tests on some rather unrealistic configurations, due to limits of time and number of routers. Unless you have a BGP traffic generator like BGPSIM, you are simply not going to see significantly long AS paths with 5-6 routers. You'll need at least 4-5 routers to see something like hierarchical route reflection. So, in the CCIE-related BGP papers I'm writing, I try to deal with the big picture, the problem that routing is trying to solve, and then focus on specific configuration. "Edward Solomon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribiÛ en el mensaje de noticias 8jfur0$doe$[EMAIL PROTECTED] ""Russ Brown"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Let me just state that as an engineer now working on a BGP implementation, I think that a better decision was made to focus on it as a routing protocol and get rid of some of the overlap. Let's face it - with the exception of static routes, BGP is the protocol that ties the I-net and many private networks together. Time to start making it a focal point of Advanced Cisco Routing. True. Also, I failed to mention before that there are new case studies and labs, and the labs constitute about half the course time. Each chapter has a case study and most have at least one lab. There is no more IPX, AppleTalk or DECnet either, nor are there any access-lists and there is more detail on the way in which the routing protocols function, particularly E-IGRP and BGP. -- Edward Solomon CCNA, CCSI Senior I/T Specialist Networking Solutions IBM Canada Ltd. - Learning Services Tel.: (905) 316-3241 Fax: (905) 316-3101 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet: http://www.can.ibm.com/services/learning/net_internet.html ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BSCN vs. ACRC
Can anybody tell me what is the difference between BSCN and ACRC.Is it sufficient to study old prepare material ,such as Todd Lemmel's CCNP:Advanced Cisco Router Configuration Study Guide and Cisco's ACRC book? ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
