Ditto.  Get a written policy established first, and unless you're dealing
with schoolage kids, a few rumors spread about the internet access being
logged should deter most (and syslogging isn't that hard).  The rest, well
their managers can deal with when presented with the logs.

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""Chuck Larrieu""  wrote in message
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> Indeed this has come up regularly. I remain skeptical that placing the
> burden for enforcing policy such as this lies with the firewall and the
> firewall administrators.
>
> OK, so you block Napster and AOL. Now then, what about E-trade? Yahoo?
> Merrill Lynch, Dilbert.com? not to mention the various picture sites that
so
> many disapprove of. How about all the radio stations people are listening
to
> over the net?
>
> Now, what happens when some person or business unit has a good business
> reason for accessing AOL or other sights that you are blocking on your
> firewall?
>
> I'm talking to the wind, I suppose, but my first question when this topic
> comes up,  is "what is the written policy regarding internet access?" the
> second question is "will management pay for what it requires to accomplish
> this policy?"
>
> But relying on port blocking, or address blocking, or domain name
blocking,
> on a case by case basis seems a bit shortsighted.
>
> JMHO
>
> Chuck
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> Keyur Lavingia
> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 12:41 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Blocking Napster and Aol on Pix config/Setting up Tacus or
> [7:1639]
>
> This has actually come up again in the discussion. If u want to block AIM
> outgoing from ur network, u should try to block the IP Addresses of the
> login server of AIM which is "login.oscar.aol.com" The AIM App is designed
> to scan for ports other than 5190 to login to the server, so port blocking
> will not work always.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> KEYUR LAVINGIA
> Network Engineer
> Peak XV Networks
> San Ramon, CA 94583.
> W - 925.242.7492
> C - 925.699.8855
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 11:12 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Blocking Napster and Aol on Pix config/Setting up Tacus or
> [7:1629]
>
>
> Just a note, that people can shoose other ports to get to the AIM
services.
>
>
> ""Kevin O'Gilvie""  wrote in message
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> > Before I ask this question I would like to give something back, below is
> the
> > config to block aim and napster:
> >
> > access-list acl_out deny tcp any any eq 5190
> > access-list acl_out deny tcp any any eq 8875
> > access-list acl_out deny tcp any any eq 7777
> > access-list acl_out deny tcp any any eq 6699
> > access-list acl_out deny tcp any any eq 8888
> > access-group acl_out in interface inside
> > access-list acl_out permit tcp any any
> > access-list acl_out permit ip any any
> >
> >
> > Now I would like to setup a Tacus+ or Radius Server on My network I have
a
> > widows 2000 domain and I am unsure of how to do this. Please advise.
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> > Kevin
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