RE: CID passed with 839, CCDP complete, details inside

2000-12-26 Thread Robert Padjen

I've commented to Cisco on every single test, going as
far as to include my eMail information in the comment.
Priscilla has tried to contact Cisco as well, and
without success as I understand it. It is unfortunate
that Cisco does not seek out a few of the more active
members of this board to provide Alpha information on
the test and, better yet, acknowledge the fact that
people care enough to comment on the examination. My
fear is that they feel the don't have to, can now
charge for the betas, and still maintain demand in the
industry. I, for one, have seen a definate waining
from enterprise customers for certifications - in
fact, one of my smaller customers wrote a description
stating "No CCIEs" recently under the guise that they
wanted a junior operations person.

Congrats on passing.


--- Lou Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No I have NEVER gotten feedback... Never
> And I have commented on all my CCNA, DA, NP, and DP
> test...  I have pointed
> out a few glaring incorrect answers/questions and a
> few I am pretty sure...
> I also asked on a few questions why ask this... is
> there a point to a CCxx
> knowing how to spell this?
> In the end it is not the contact I want but knowing
> that my comment was read
> and if I was right... the problem addressed.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Chuck Larrieu
> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 6:02 PM
> To: Kevin Wigle; Robert Padjen; Scott Brenner;
> Andre' Paree-Huff;
> Cisco@Groupstudy. Com
> Subject: RE: CID passed with 839, CCDP complete,
> details inside
> 
> 
> I failed the CID first time through, passed it
> second time. On both tests
> there was a particular question, which fell into a
> "security" category ( in
> my mind anyway )  There were 3 wrong answers and one
> right answer. I will go
> to my grave convinced that  there is an error on the
> test, and the real
> question is "which of these is NOT" rather than
> "which of these IS"
> 
> BTW - anyone EVER gotten any feedback from Cisco on
> comments made during the
> test on test questions? I didn't think so.
> 
> Chuck
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> Kevin Wigle
> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 2:51 PM
> To:   Robert Padjen; Scott Brenner; Andre' Paree-Huff;
> Cisco@Groupstudy. Com
> Subject:  Re: CID passed with 839, CCDP complete,
> details inside
> 
> Congratulations, another set of initials always
> feels good!
> 
> I also believe it is a single question.  I barely
> passed the CID when I took
> it but I got the security question correct.
> 
> Couldn't say what it was though many have
> commented on the famous
> security question but no one seems to remember it. 
> I believe it might not
> really be security related but labeled that way.
> 
> anyway - congrats!
> 
> Kevin Wigle
> 
> ----- Original Message -
> From: "Robert Padjen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Scott Brenner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Andre'
> Paree-Huff"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Cisco@Groupstudy. Com"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, 21 December, 2000 13:11
> Subject: RE: CID passed with 839, CCDP complete,
> details inside
> 
> 
> > Its a single question, and, I believe, it is not
> the
> > one that it would appear to be. By unofficial
> polling
> > I'd say 70+% get it 'wrong.'
> >
> > Congrats.
> >
> >
> > --- Scott Brenner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I took the CID on 12/15 and I received 100% on
> the
> > > Security section. I have
> > > been
> > > trying to remember what question(s) were on
> > > security, but I can't figure it
> > > out...
> > >
> > >
> > > Scott Brenner
> > > CCNP/CCDP
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > > Andre' Paree-Huff
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 9:10 AM
> > > To: Cisco@Groupstudy. Com
> > > Subject: Re: CID passed with 839, CCDP complete,
> > > details inside
> > >
> > >
> > > Neal,
> > >
> > > I took the CID exam last week and faild by 21
> > > points. I too received a =
> > > ZERO on the security and have talked to at least
> 5
> > > people that have =
> > > taken the cert, some passed some failed but

RE: CID passed with 839, CCDP complete, details inside

2000-12-26 Thread Lou Nelson

No I have NEVER gotten feedback... Never
And I have commented on all my CCNA, DA, NP, and DP test...  I have pointed
out a few glaring incorrect answers/questions and a few I am pretty sure...
I also asked on a few questions why ask this... is there a point to a CCxx
knowing how to spell this?
In the end it is not the contact I want but knowing that my comment was read
and if I was right... the problem addressed.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Chuck Larrieu
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 6:02 PM
To: Kevin Wigle; Robert Padjen; Scott Brenner; Andre' Paree-Huff;
Cisco@Groupstudy. Com
Subject: RE: CID passed with 839, CCDP complete, details inside


I failed the CID first time through, passed it second time. On both tests
there was a particular question, which fell into a "security" category ( in
my mind anyway )  There were 3 wrong answers and one right answer. I will go
to my grave convinced that  there is an error on the test, and the real
question is "which of these is NOT" rather than "which of these IS"

BTW - anyone EVER gotten any feedback from Cisco on comments made during the
test on test questions? I didn't think so.

Chuck


-Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Kevin Wigle
Sent:   Thursday, December 21, 2000 2:51 PM
To: Robert Padjen; Scott Brenner; Andre' Paree-Huff; Cisco@Groupstudy. Com
Subject:    Re: CID passed with 839, CCDP complete, details inside

Congratulations, another set of initials always feels good!

I also believe it is a single question.  I barely passed the CID when I took
it but I got the security question correct.

Couldn't say what it was though many have commented on the famous
security question but no one seems to remember it.  I believe it might not
really be security related but labeled that way.

anyway - congrats!

Kevin Wigle

- Original Message -
From: "Robert Padjen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Scott Brenner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Andre' Paree-Huff"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Cisco@Groupstudy. Com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, 21 December, 2000 13:11
Subject: RE: CID passed with 839, CCDP complete, details inside


> Its a single question, and, I believe, it is not the
> one that it would appear to be. By unofficial polling
> I'd say 70+% get it 'wrong.'
>
> Congrats.
>
>
> --- Scott Brenner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I took the CID on 12/15 and I received 100% on the
> > Security section. I have
> > been
> > trying to remember what question(s) were on
> > security, but I can't figure it
> > out...
> >
> >
> > Scott Brenner
> > CCNP/CCDP
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Andre' Paree-Huff
> > Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 9:10 AM
> > To: Cisco@Groupstudy. Com
> > Subject: Re: CID passed with 839, CCDP complete,
> > details inside
> >
> >
> > Neal,
> >
> > I took the CID exam last week and faild by 21
> > points. I too received a =
> > ZERO on the security and have talked to at least 5
> > people that have =
> > taken the cert, some passed some failed but everyone
> > one of them got a =
> > ZERO for security issues.  I agree I wonder if this
> > was a misprint.
> >
> > "Neal Rauhauser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> > message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > 100 questions, took me 32 of 120 minutes
> > allowed, and I walked out
> > > with an 839 and my spiffy new CCDP :-)
> > >
> > > The exam has the following sections and I've
> > listed my scores
> > >
> > > 1 Intro to Internetwork Design62%
> > > 2 Campus LAN design62%
> > > 3 TCP/IP network design88%
> > > 4 desktop protocol design80%
> > > 5 WAN design
> > 76%
> > > 6 SNA design
> > 71%
> > > 7 security issues
> > 0% (!)(more on
> > > this below)
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > Andr=E9 Paree-Huff
> > A+, ASE, CCDA, CCNP
> > MCSE+I, NET+, I-NET+
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > AOL AIM: pareehuff


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RE: CID passed with 839, CCDP complete, details inside

2000-12-21 Thread Chuck Larrieu

I failed the CID first time through, passed it second time. On both tests
there was a particular question, which fell into a "security" category ( in
my mind anyway )  There were 3 wrong answers and one right answer. I will go
to my grave convinced that  there is an error on the test, and the real
question is "which of these is NOT" rather than "which of these IS"

BTW - anyone EVER gotten any feedback from Cisco on comments made during the
test on test questions? I didn't think so.

Chuck


-Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Kevin Wigle
Sent:   Thursday, December 21, 2000 2:51 PM
To: Robert Padjen; Scott Brenner; Andre' Paree-Huff; Cisco@Groupstudy. Com
Subject:    Re: CID passed with 839, CCDP complete, details inside

Congratulations, another set of initials always feels good!

I also believe it is a single question.  I barely passed the CID when I took
it but I got the security question correct.

Couldn't say what it was though many have commented on the famous
security question but no one seems to remember it.  I believe it might not
really be security related but labeled that way.

anyway - congrats!

Kevin Wigle

- Original Message -
From: "Robert Padjen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Scott Brenner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Andre' Paree-Huff"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Cisco@Groupstudy. Com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, 21 December, 2000 13:11
Subject: RE: CID passed with 839, CCDP complete, details inside


> Its a single question, and, I believe, it is not the
> one that it would appear to be. By unofficial polling
> I'd say 70+% get it 'wrong.'
>
> Congrats.
>
>
> --- Scott Brenner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I took the CID on 12/15 and I received 100% on the
> > Security section. I have
> > been
> > trying to remember what question(s) were on
> > security, but I can't figure it
> > out...
> >
> >
> > Scott Brenner
> > CCNP/CCDP
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Andre' Paree-Huff
> > Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 9:10 AM
> > To: Cisco@Groupstudy. Com
> > Subject: Re: CID passed with 839, CCDP complete,
> > details inside
> >
> >
> > Neal,
> >
> > I took the CID exam last week and faild by 21
> > points. I too received a =
> > ZERO on the security and have talked to at least 5
> > people that have =
> > taken the cert, some passed some failed but everyone
> > one of them got a =
> > ZERO for security issues.  I agree I wonder if this
> > was a misprint.
> >
> > "Neal Rauhauser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> > message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > 100 questions, took me 32 of 120 minutes
> > allowed, and I walked out
> > > with an 839 and my spiffy new CCDP :-)
> > >
> > > The exam has the following sections and I've
> > listed my scores
> > >
> > > 1 Intro to Internetwork Design62%
> > > 2 Campus LAN design62%
> > > 3 TCP/IP network design88%
> > > 4 desktop protocol design80%
> > > 5 WAN design
> > 76%
> > > 6 SNA design
> > 71%
> > > 7 security issues
> > 0% (!)(more on
> > > this below)
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > Andr=E9 Paree-Huff
> > A+, ASE, CCDA, CCNP
> > MCSE+I, NET+, I-NET+
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > AOL AIM: pareehuff


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Re: CID passed with 839, CCDP complete, details inside

2000-12-21 Thread Kevin Wigle

Congratulations, another set of initials always feels good!

I also believe it is a single question.  I barely passed the CID when I took
it but I got the security question correct.

Couldn't say what it was though many have commented on the famous
security question but no one seems to remember it.  I believe it might not
really be security related but labeled that way.

anyway - congrats!

Kevin Wigle

- Original Message -
From: "Robert Padjen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Scott Brenner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Andre' Paree-Huff"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Cisco@Groupstudy. Com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, 21 December, 2000 13:11
Subject: RE: CID passed with 839, CCDP complete, details inside


> Its a single question, and, I believe, it is not the
> one that it would appear to be. By unofficial polling
> I'd say 70+% get it 'wrong.'
>
> Congrats.
>
>
> --- Scott Brenner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I took the CID on 12/15 and I received 100% on the
> > Security section. I have
> > been
> > trying to remember what question(s) were on
> > security, but I can't figure it
> > out...
> >
> >
> > Scott Brenner
> > CCNP/CCDP
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Andre' Paree-Huff
> > Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 9:10 AM
> > To: Cisco@Groupstudy. Com
> > Subject: Re: CID passed with 839, CCDP complete,
> > details inside
> >
> >
> > Neal,
> >
> > I took the CID exam last week and faild by 21
> > points. I too received a =
> > ZERO on the security and have talked to at least 5
> > people that have =
> > taken the cert, some passed some failed but everyone
> > one of them got a =
> > ZERO for security issues.  I agree I wonder if this
> > was a misprint.
> >
> > "Neal Rauhauser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> > message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > 100 questions, took me 32 of 120 minutes
> > allowed, and I walked out
> > > with an 839 and my spiffy new CCDP :-)
> > >
> > > The exam has the following sections and I've
> > listed my scores
> > >
> > > 1 Intro to Internetwork Design62%
> > > 2 Campus LAN design62%
> > > 3 TCP/IP network design88%
> > > 4 desktop protocol design80%
> > > 5 WAN design
> > 76%
> > > 6 SNA design
> > 71%
> > > 7 security issues
> > 0% (!)(more on
> > > this below)
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > Andr=E9 Paree-Huff
> > A+, ASE, CCDA, CCNP
> > MCSE+I, NET+, I-NET+
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > AOL AIM: pareehuff


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Re: CID passed with 839, CCDP complete, details inside

2000-12-21 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

There's a 50/50 chance anyone could get 0 on the security section, since 
there's only one question! Also, quite a few of the questions on the CID 
test are tricky and weird, so maybe that one is too. I checked my score and 
I got it right, but I'm used to the trickiness. &;-)

As I recall, the course developer removed the security section from the CID 
3.0 class anyway. To tell you the truth, I think that it's a mistake that 
there's any question on the topic. The objectives that Cisco publishes for 
CID 3.0 are based on the 2.0 version of the class. Really they are. That's 
why so many of the books missed the fact that there are StrataCom questions 
on the test.

Priscilla


At 12:09 PM 12/21/00, Andre' Paree-Huff wrote:
>Neal,
>
>I took the CID exam last week and faild by 21 points. I too received a =
>ZERO on the security and have talked to at least 5 people that have =
>taken the cert, some passed some failed but everyone one of them got a =
>ZERO for security issues.  I agree I wonder if this was a misprint.
>
>"Neal Rauhauser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > 100 questions, took me 32 of 120 minutes allowed, and I walked out
> > with an 839 and my spiffy new CCDP :-)
> >
> > The exam has the following sections and I've listed my scores
> >
> > 1 Intro to Internetwork Design62%
> > 2 Campus LAN design62%
> > 3 TCP/IP network design88%
> > 4 desktop protocol design80%
> > 5 WAN design   76%
> > 6 SNA design   71%
> > 7 security issues  0% (!)(more on
> > this below)
> >
> >
>
>
>
>Andr=E9 Paree-Huff
>A+, ASE, CCDA, CCNP
>MCSE+I, NET+, I-NET+
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>AOL AIM: pareehuff
>
>
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RE: CID passed with 839, CCDP complete, details inside

2000-12-21 Thread Robert Padjen

Its a single question, and, I believe, it is not the
one that it would appear to be. By unofficial polling
I'd say 70+% get it 'wrong.'

Congrats.


--- Scott Brenner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I took the CID on 12/15 and I received 100% on the
> Security section. I have
> been
> trying to remember what question(s) were on
> security, but I can't figure it
> out...
> 
> 
> Scott Brenner
> CCNP/CCDP
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Andre' Paree-Huff
> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 9:10 AM
> To: Cisco@Groupstudy. Com
> Subject: Re: CID passed with 839, CCDP complete,
> details inside
> 
> 
> Neal,
> 
> I took the CID exam last week and faild by 21
> points. I too received a =
> ZERO on the security and have talked to at least 5
> people that have =
> taken the cert, some passed some failed but everyone
> one of them got a =
> ZERO for security issues.  I agree I wonder if this
> was a misprint.
> 
> "Neal Rauhauser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > 100 questions, took me 32 of 120 minutes
> allowed, and I walked out
> > with an 839 and my spiffy new CCDP :-)
> >
> > The exam has the following sections and I've
> listed my scores
> >
> > 1 Intro to Internetwork Design62%
> > 2 Campus LAN design62%
> > 3 TCP/IP network design88%
> > 4 desktop protocol design80%
> > 5 WAN design  
> 76%
> > 6 SNA design  
> 71%
> > 7 security issues 
> 0% (!)(more on
> > this below)
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> Andr=E9 Paree-Huff
> A+, ASE, CCDA, CCNP
> MCSE+I, NET+, I-NET+
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> AOL AIM: pareehuff
> 
> 
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RE: CID passed with 839, CCDP complete, details inside

2000-12-21 Thread Scott Brenner

I took the CID on 12/15 and I received 100% on the Security section. I have
been
trying to remember what question(s) were on security, but I can't figure it
out...


Scott Brenner
CCNP/CCDP


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Andre' Paree-Huff
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 9:10 AM
To: Cisco@Groupstudy. Com
Subject: Re: CID passed with 839, CCDP complete, details inside


Neal,

I took the CID exam last week and faild by 21 points. I too received a =
ZERO on the security and have talked to at least 5 people that have =
taken the cert, some passed some failed but everyone one of them got a =
ZERO for security issues.  I agree I wonder if this was a misprint.

"Neal Rauhauser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> 100 questions, took me 32 of 120 minutes allowed, and I walked out
> with an 839 and my spiffy new CCDP :-)
>
> The exam has the following sections and I've listed my scores
>
> 1 Intro to Internetwork Design62%
> 2 Campus LAN design62%
> 3 TCP/IP network design88%
> 4 desktop protocol design80%
> 5 WAN design   76%
> 6 SNA design   71%
> 7 security issues  0% (!)(more on
> this below)
>
>



Andr=E9 Paree-Huff
A+, ASE, CCDA, CCNP
MCSE+I, NET+, I-NET+
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: CID passed with 839, CCDP complete, details inside

2000-12-21 Thread Andre' Paree-Huff

Neal,

I took the CID exam last week and faild by 21 points. I too received a =
ZERO on the security and have talked to at least 5 people that have =
taken the cert, some passed some failed but everyone one of them got a =
ZERO for security issues.  I agree I wonder if this was a misprint.

"Neal Rauhauser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> 100 questions, took me 32 of 120 minutes allowed, and I walked out
> with an 839 and my spiffy new CCDP :-)
>
> The exam has the following sections and I've listed my scores
>
> 1 Intro to Internetwork Design62%
> 2 Campus LAN design62%
> 3 TCP/IP network design88%
> 4 desktop protocol design80%
> 5 WAN design   76%
> 6 SNA design   71%
> 7 security issues  0% (!)(more on
> this below)
>
>



Andr=E9 Paree-Huff
A+, ASE, CCDA, CCNP
MCSE+I, NET+, I-NET+
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: CID passed with 839, CCDP complete, details inside

2000-12-21 Thread John Huston

Neal,

Congratulations passing the exam and thanks for the link.  This is very
helpful.

Regards,

John Huston


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> 100 questions, took me 32 of 120 minutes allowed, and I walked out
> with an 839 and my spiffy new CCDP :-)
>
> The exam has the following sections and I've listed my scores
>
> 1 Intro to Internetwork Design62%
> 2 Campus LAN design62%
> 3 TCP/IP network design88%
> 4 desktop protocol design80%
> 5 WAN design   76%
> 6 SNA design   71%
> 7 security issues  0% (!)(more on
> this below)
>
>
>
> For prep I used the Cisco Press CID book and the boson.com
> pretest. I spent about a month after completing my CCDP just letting my
> brain cool off then I crammed for the CID in about two weeks.
>
>
> The BCMSN material does an excellent job of covering the Campus LAN
> design portion, BSCN takes care of the TCP/IP network design, and BCRAN
> covers a bit of the WAN design questions.
>
> I studied for the CCNP 1.0 track and I took the ACRC exam last
> spring and missed it by one question. I mostly took it to get that stuff
> out of my head so I could work on switching and I didn't bother to
> retest but I feel that working through the Sybex ACRC book and the IPX
> and Appletalk labs in the CCIE Lab Study Guide really carried me on that
> portion. The information in the Cisco Press book is NOT I repeat NOT
> sufficient - you really need ACRC level skills to get by this thing.
>
> There are a number of questions on Stratacom stuff in the WAN
> portion. On pp367 of the Cisco Press CID book you will find this URL
>
>
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/wanbu/82/switch/sysm/sysmch0
1.htm
>
> Learn all of the magic incantations on this page and you will be
> protected from the ATM demon during your 640-025 exam :) I am a big fan
> of mastery rather than rote learning but in this case the boson.com exam
> proved invaluable - their questions are very, very close to what you'll
> find on the actual exam and you can practice test your way to a passing
> grade if you need to do so.
>
>
>As gross and as useless as it is for 92% of the people working on
> this certification, you *must* know a little bit about SNA.
>
> I had done workstation support in a huge SNA shop so it wasn't
> entirely foreign and a long time ago (5+ years), for reasons I forget, I
> purchased and read a large portion of Communications for Cooperating
> Systems - OSI, SNA, and TCP/IP. This book is a psychotic piece of
> IBM backed propaganda which argues for the subordination of TCP/IP and
> the OSI model in the perfect (I use the word in the facist sense) SNA
> world. If you can shield your mind from the IBM borgification procedures
> its actually not a bad read if you want to get some background on SNA.
> FWIW it is ISBN 0-201-50775-7 and my copy was 'updated with corrections'
> in 1992.
>
> If you don't have the aforementioned marvelous tome of IBM wisdom
> the CID book covers a lot of what you need to know.
>
>
>The  0% on security was quite a suprise and I still wonder if it
> isn't a misprint from the test software based on my final score- I was a
> script kiddie way back when before there was even a word for it and I am
> very used to looking at other's stuff with a  probing eye. I guess
> the mindset of those that are trained to defend is a lot different than
> that of those of us who took the Wyatt Earp route to getting our
> sherrif's badge.
>
>
>Good luck, good studying, and if you're tired of people 'borrowing'
> your linux box take a look at www.openbsd.org - its the best script
> kiddie repellent I've found so far.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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CID passed with 839, CCDP complete, details inside

2000-12-20 Thread Neal Rauhauser

100 questions, took me 32 of 120 minutes allowed, and I walked out
with an 839 and my spiffy new CCDP :-)

The exam has the following sections and I've listed my scores

1 Intro to Internetwork Design62%
2 Campus LAN design62%
3 TCP/IP network design88%
4 desktop protocol design80%
5 WAN design   76%
6 SNA design   71%
7 security issues  0% (!)(more on
this below)



For prep I used the Cisco Press CID book and the boson.com
pretest. I spent about a month after completing my CCDP just letting my
brain cool off then I crammed for the CID in about two weeks.


The BCMSN material does an excellent job of covering the Campus LAN
design portion, BSCN takes care of the TCP/IP network design, and BCRAN
covers a bit of the WAN design questions.

I studied for the CCNP 1.0 track and I took the ACRC exam last
spring and missed it by one question. I mostly took it to get that stuff
out of my head so I could work on switching and I didn't bother to
retest but I feel that working through the Sybex ACRC book and the IPX
and Appletalk labs in the CCIE Lab Study Guide really carried me on that
portion. The information in the Cisco Press book is NOT I repeat NOT
sufficient - you really need ACRC level skills to get by this thing.

There are a number of questions on Stratacom stuff in the WAN
portion. On pp367 of the Cisco Press CID book you will find this URL

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/wanbu/82/switch/sysm/sysmch01.htm

Learn all of the magic incantations on this page and you will be
protected from the ATM demon during your 640-025 exam :) I am a big fan
of mastery rather than rote learning but in this case the boson.com exam
proved invaluable - their questions are very, very close to what you'll
find on the actual exam and you can practice test your way to a passing
grade if you need to do so.


   As gross and as useless as it is for 92% of the people working on
this certification, you *must* know a little bit about SNA.

I had done workstation support in a huge SNA shop so it wasn't
entirely foreign and a long time ago (5+ years), for reasons I forget, I
purchased and read a large portion of Communications for Cooperating
Systems - OSI, SNA, and TCP/IP. This book is a psychotic piece of
IBM backed propaganda which argues for the subordination of TCP/IP and
the OSI model in the perfect (I use the word in the facist sense) SNA
world. If you can shield your mind from the IBM borgification procedures
its actually not a bad read if you want to get some background on SNA.
FWIW it is ISBN 0-201-50775-7 and my copy was 'updated with corrections'
in 1992.

If you don't have the aforementioned marvelous tome of IBM wisdom
the CID book covers a lot of what you need to know.


   The  0% on security was quite a suprise and I still wonder if it
isn't a misprint from the test software based on my final score- I was a
script kiddie way back when before there was even a word for it and I am
very used to looking at other's stuff with a  probing eye. I guess
the mindset of those that are trained to defend is a lot different than
that of those of us who took the Wyatt Earp route to getting our
sherrif's badge.


   Good luck, good studying, and if you're tired of people 'borrowing'
your linux box take a look at www.openbsd.org - its the best script
kiddie repellent I've found so far.







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RE: CCDP complete

2000-08-04 Thread Rampley, Jim

It's free!
 
 <http://www.vstream.com/login/CISCOCID/CISCOCID_login.vhtm>
http://www.vstream.com/login/CISCOCID/CISCOCID_login.vhtm
 
Jim

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How to get the online cid course on vstream?
 
thank you ?
 
Cingiz
CCNP, CCDA

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Just passed CID to complete CCDP!  Got an 82 and finished up with 20 minutes
to spare.  Read Top-Down Network Design and the CID ciscopress book.  Used
the online CID course on vstream and Boson test 1.
 
Jim
CCNP CCDP MCSE HPOCC

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Re: CCDP complete

2000-08-04 Thread Cingiz



How to get the online cid course on 
vstream?
 
thank you ?
 
Cingiz
CCNP, CCDA

  "Jim Rampley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 001801bffdab$ea823520$1a2290d1@dougy">news:001801bffdab$ea823520$1a2290d1@dougy...
   
    
  Just passed CID to complete CCDP!  Got an 82 and finished up with 20 
  minutes to spare.  Read Top-Down Network Design and the CID ciscopress 
  book.  Used the online CID course on vstream and Boson test 1.
   
  Jim
  CCNP CCDP MCSE HPOCC


CCDP complete

2000-08-03 Thread Jim Rampley



 
  
Just passed CID to complete CCDP!  Got an 82 and finished up with 20 
minutes to spare.  Read Top-Down Network Design and the CID ciscopress 
book.  Used the online CID course on vstream and Boson test 1.
 
Jim
CCNP CCDP MCSE HPOCC