CCIE All-in-one (moron or genious?)

2000-07-24 Thread NeoLink2000

Hey Groupies,
Just wanted to bring up a topic that I've been pondering. About a month 
ago, me and another member on the list met up and started working on his path 
to CCIE, starting with the "CCIE All-In-One Study Guide." Any of you who have 
ever used this book have all seen the massive amounts of errors in it, from 
picture errors, config errors, and even syntax spelling errors. We are almost 
through the whole book and I must say that out of the 80 labs in the book, at 
least 75% of them have had AT LEAST a tiny glitch on the authors part. I have 
hated this for the time that I've been working in the book, until last night. 
Me and the other member were working on one of the BGP labs. First of all, 
there was a config missing for one of the routers, and for router D in the 
config there wasn't supposed to be a serial address...but of coarse in the 
picture there was one. We literally spent about 2 hours on what was supposed 
to be a 20 minute lab. I commented this and the other member said "I know, 
this is great." That's when I got to thinking. What if this author made all 
of these mistakes to teach us troubleshooting. I must admit, I have spent a 
lot of time on these labs trying to figure out what's wrong with them after 
we use what the author wants, and I even get better from it. On the way home 
last night I was thinking that maybe the book was intended to be that way and 
all of those errata's are just ruining it because it's letting people not use 
their heads. If this is NOT the case and the author didn't intend in making 
this book a troubleshooter, then maybe he is a moron. But if he did, indeed, 
write this book this way intentionally, then I have to tip my hat and say 
that he is a genius and a great teacher. Just my thoughts guys. After all, 
the second half of "the lab" is fixing what was made wrong. If this book can 
simulate that...then it is the best CCIE study guide to a certain level. Have 
a good one group,

Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA
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Rolls-Royce would today cost $100, get a million miles per gallon, and 
explode once a year killing everyone inside.
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RE: CCIE All-in-one (moron or genious?)

2000-07-24 Thread William E Gragido

Are we talking about the Roosevelt Giles CCIE study guide?  I have heard
nothing but terrible things about it.  I love the Caslow book though; it
rocks!  Talk about comprehensive!

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> Hey Groupies,
> Just wanted to bring up a topic that I've been pondering.
> About a month
> ago, me and another member on the list met up and started working
> on his path
> to CCIE, starting with the "CCIE All-In-One Study Guide." Any of
> you who have
> ever used this book have all seen the massive amounts of errors
> in it, from
> picture errors, config errors, and even syntax spelling errors.
> We are almost
> through the whole book and I must say that out of the 80 labs in
> the book, at
> least 75% of them have had AT LEAST a tiny glitch on the authors
> part. I have
> hated this for the time that I've been working in the book, until
> last night.
> Me and the other member were working on one of the BGP labs.
> First of all,
> there was a config missing for one of the routers, and for router
> D in the
> config there wasn't supposed to be a serial address...but of
> coarse in the
> picture there was one. We literally spent about 2 hours on what
> was supposed
> to be a 20 minute lab. I commented this and the other member said
> "I know,
> this is great." That's when I got to thinking. What if this
> author made all
> of these mistakes to teach us troubleshooting. I must admit, I
> have spent a
> lot of time on these labs trying to figure out what's wrong with
> them after
> we use what the author wants, and I even get better from it. On
> the way home
> last night I was thinking that maybe the book was intended to be
> that way and
> all of those errata's are just ruining it because it's letting
> people not use
> their heads. If this is NOT the case and the author didn't intend
> in making
> this book a troubleshooter, then maybe he is a moron. But if he
> did, indeed,
> write this book this way intentionally, then I have to tip my hat and say
> that he is a genius and a great teacher. Just my thoughts guys.
> After all,
> the second half of "the lab" is fixing what was made wrong. If
> this book can
> simulate that...then it is the best CCIE study guide to a certain
> level. Have
> a good one group,
>
> Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> If the automobile had followed the same development as the
> computer, a
> Rolls-Royce would today cost $100, get a million miles per gallon, and
> explode once a year killing everyone inside.
> ~Robert Cringely, InfoWorld~
>
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