Re: CCIE and 2500 series issue
At 10:43 AM 2/17/01 -0500, you wrote: >All, > >I have 2 guys at work that have passed the ccie written and are going to >take the practical at the end of this month. I have 3 2500 series at home 2 >2501 and a 2503 along with a cisco 804. I have a chance to buy 3 more 2500 >at a very very good price, Well if that price is very, very good, buy them, use them, and then sell for a profit. You may find that they work just fine, and if the price is right <$600us, then you should be able to make some $ off of them to buy bigger toys. Matt Wehland _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE and 2500 series issue
The 2501 is still very useful for most of the lab scenarios you have to master. The 2600 does open up the Voice issues. ATM is expensive no matter what so it may be better to rent rack time for ATM studies and if you do that it might be a great time to do Voice studies too instead of buying Voice capable stuff for the lab. Just recently I found a configuration for using 2 x 2501s tunneled together on their ethernet ports to make a 4 port frame relay switch. Damn if I can't find it just at this moment But the point is, don't write off the 2501s yet for a study tool. I have a 1005 and a 3002 which do great to add an interface or two at the stubs of a network. 2501s for a good price? GO for it. Kevin Wigle CCDP/CCNP - Original Message - From: "Elijah Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Cisco (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, 17 February, 2001 10:43 Subject: CCIE and 2500 series issue > All, > > I have 2 guys at work that have passed the ccie written and are going to > take the practical at the end of this month. I have 3 2500 series at home 2 > 2501 and a 2503 along with a cisco 804. I have a chance to buy 3 more 2500 > at a very very good price, Our job is replacing them with 2600. But these > guys said its not a good idea to buy all that equipment because the 2500 > will not help you anymore that it would be better to go to the 2600 modular > series. We have a very nice lab that they have setup at work, and they have > went out and purchased some CCIE labs paid like 700 bucks for them. And one > of the labs basically required a 2600 be setup as a frame switch. > I guess now you all can see the dilemma I am in, do I buy these 2500's. > Everyone that is building labs at home to try and conquer this beast with > 2500's are we missing the mark here. I mean I wonder how many have labs at > home that think they are useful? Is it worth the investment anymore? > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE and 2500 series issue
Hi I think your co workers are off the mark a little bit. For the R/S lab you need routers and switches. To be more specific you need routers and switches that mirror the lab functionality, not necessarily the exact model. So from a functionality point of view what does a 2600 give that a 2500 can not. 1) VoIP, VoFR, and VoATM. But keep in mind that the 2600 series require a NV to use a VIC which are expensive, $1000+ and you still need a couple of VICs at about $300 each. Better to get a couple of 1750s with a built-in VIC slot. 2) ATM. Again there are other options, e.g. 4500 or 4700 3) FE for ISL trunking. Here the 2600 is dead on, unless somewhere down the line Cisco adds ISL capability to the 1700s. So get the 2500s and be happy that you have a valid router for your lab work. BTW, when you get labs, don't look at the router model, look at the functionality that it is providing, a 2600 as a FR switch is a laugh! HTH -- John Hardman CCNP MCSE+I "Elijah Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 83F1C14B5FC6D411B82400A0C90DEDDF0351A3@MRNT">news:83F1C14B5FC6D411B82400A0C90DEDDF0351A3@MRNT... > All, > > I have 2 guys at work that have passed the ccie written and are going to > take the practical at the end of this month. I have 3 2500 series at home 2 > 2501 and a 2503 along with a cisco 804. I have a chance to buy 3 more 2500 > at a very very good price, Our job is replacing them with 2600. But these > guys said its not a good idea to buy all that equipment because the 2500 > will not help you anymore that it would be better to go to the 2600 modular > series. We have a very nice lab that they have setup at work, and they have > went out and purchased some CCIE labs paid like 700 bucks for them. And one > of the labs basically required a 2600 be setup as a frame switch. > I guess now you all can see the dilemma I am in, do I buy these 2500's. > Everyone that is building labs at home to try and conquer this beast with > 2500's are we missing the mark here. I mean I wonder how many have labs at > home that think they are useful? Is it worth the investment anymore? > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE and 2500 series issue
I would ask your friends what they believe major differences between the 2600 & the 2500's are. The 2600 is modular & offers a few more advancements (FE modules, etc.). The 2600 is pretty much the same chassis (blue instead of black) & that same slow processor we've all grown to love ;-) I would say your friends are missing the mark here. If they have lab dates already, they'll surly see 2500 @ the testing center. It's widely advertised that 2511's are the method of access in the Cisco lab racks. If you can get 2500's for a reasonable price, I'd jump. As far as using a 2600 as a frame switch, I cannot think of a more expensive method (maybe using a 3640). This is a layer 2 process & the commands you need to support Frame-Relay Switching started in 10.X(X). Most CCIE study-ers are using AGS+'s & MGS's, which both have a max of 11.0(22) IOS. I use a 4500, which I consider the Cadillac of Frame Clouds & maybe a waist of money for such a small job (but my ears like the quite fans :-) All the best in your decision, but again your friends are not demonstrating a great understanding of available hardware in this instance ... Phil - Original Message - From: "Elijah Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Cisco (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 1:43 PM Subject: CCIE and 2500 series issue > All, > > I have 2 guys at work that have passed the ccie written and are going to > take the practical at the end of this month. I have 3 2500 series at home 2 > 2501 and a 2503 along with a cisco 804. I have a chance to buy 3 more 2500 > at a very very good price, Our job is replacing them with 2600. But these > guys said its not a good idea to buy all that equipment because the 2500 > will not help you anymore that it would be better to go to the 2600 modular > series. We have a very nice lab that they have setup at work, and they have > went out and purchased some CCIE labs paid like 700 bucks for them. And one > of the labs basically required a 2600 be setup as a frame switch. > I guess now you all can see the dilemma I am in, do I buy these 2500's. > Everyone that is building labs at home to try and conquer this beast with > 2500's are we missing the mark here. I mean I wonder how many have labs at > home that think they are useful? Is it worth the investment anymore? > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE and 2500 series issue
All, I have 2 guys at work that have passed the ccie written and are going to take the practical at the end of this month. I have 3 2500 series at home 2 2501 and a 2503 along with a cisco 804. I have a chance to buy 3 more 2500 at a very very good price, Our job is replacing them with 2600. But these guys said its not a good idea to buy all that equipment because the 2500 will not help you anymore that it would be better to go to the 2600 modular series. We have a very nice lab that they have setup at work, and they have went out and purchased some CCIE labs paid like 700 bucks for them. And one of the labs basically required a 2600 be setup as a frame switch. I guess now you all can see the dilemma I am in, do I buy these 2500's. Everyone that is building labs at home to try and conquer this beast with 2500's are we missing the mark here. I mean I wonder how many have labs at home that think they are useful? Is it worth the investment anymore? _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
