Re: CCIE question about buffers being used up on router

2000-10-10 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 12:01 PM 10/10/00, Arun Upadhyay wrote:
>Can anybody please help in solving this problem?
>
>A router is connected to a T1 line which has the
>maximum speed of 1.544mbps. The router begins to
>forward 64bkps packet at 5000 packets per second,

Do you mean 64-byte packets? If you convert that to bits it's 512 bits. 
5000 packets of that size per second is 560,000 bits per second, which is a 
lot less than 1.544 Mbps so not much buffereing will be needed at all. You 
could have just one buffer and no packets should ever get dropped.

>there are 500 buffers available.

How big are the buffers? Can we assume they are 64 bytes also?


>Approximately how
>long before the link is complelety saturated, the
>buffers are full and the router begins to discard.

If you are trying to get help with questions like this that appear on the 
CCIE written test and practice exams, you will want to give us an example 
of where the WAN link is oversubscribed. For example, if the offered load 
to the WAN link is 110% more than the WAN link could handle, 500 buffers 
would get used up in about 5000 packet times. (I think? Comments anyone?)

In reality, packets don't arrive at a constant rate, so much more difficult 
math and queuing theory is required, and that goes beyond the research and 
thinking I'm willing to do right now. &;-)

Priscilla



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Re: CCIE question about buffers being used up on router

2000-10-10 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Oops. I was multiplying 512 bits times 5000 bits per second. I guess I lost 
a digit. Sorry.

Now it's a much more interesting problem!

Priscilla

At 06:22 PM 10/10/00, Brian wrote:
>On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
>
> > At 12:01 PM 10/10/00, Arun Upadhyay wrote:
> > >Can anybody please help in solving this problem?
> > >
> > >A router is connected to a T1 line which has the
> > >maximum speed of 1.544mbps. The router begins to
> > >forward 64bkps packet at 5000 packets per second,
> >
> > Do you mean 64-byte packets? If you convert that to bits it's 512 bits.
> > 5000 packets of that size per second is 560,000 bits per second, which 
> is a
> > lot less than 1.544 Mbps so not much buffereing will be needed at all. You
> > could have just one buffer and no packets should ever get dropped.
>
>Priscilla,
>
>How did you come up with 560,000 bits per second?  Can you break that down
>for me, I know I must be doing something wrong:
>
>64bytes * 8 = 512 bits
>512 bits * 5000 packets = 256 bits
>
>brian
>
>
>
>
> >
> > >there are 500 buffers available.
> >
> > How big are the buffers? Can we assume they are 64 bytes also?
> >
> >
> > >Approximately how
> > >long before the link is complelety saturated, the
> > >buffers are full and the router begins to discard.
> >
> > If you are trying to get help with questions like this that appear on the
> > CCIE written test and practice exams, you will want to give us an example
> > of where the WAN link is oversubscribed. For example, if the offered load
> > to the WAN link is 110% more than the WAN link could handle, 500 buffers
> > would get used up in about 5000 packet times. (I think? Comments anyone?)
> >
> > In reality, packets don't arrive at a constant rate, so much more 
> difficult
> > math and queuing theory is required, and that goes beyond the research and
> > thinking I'm willing to do right now. &;-)
> >
> > Priscilla
> >
> >
> >
> > >  Thanks.
> > >
> > >  Arun
> > >
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Re: CCIE question about buffers being used up on router

2000-10-10 Thread Arun Upadhyay


  Hi Priscilla 
   I found the solution.

Here it is:
 1.544Mbps = 192KB/sec
  Router begins to forward at the rate of 64KB/sec
means it is tranfering at the rate of 3 packets/sec
i.e it will take 1/3 sec. or 333 ms to transfer one
packet.

 Now it's getting packets at the rate of 5000
packets/sec i.e one packet in every 1/5000 sec. or
1000/5000 = .2 ms
so it will get 500 packets in 500x.2=100 ms

 So by the time router will forward first packet in
333ms, it's buffer will be full.

  Thanks for your help.

  
--- Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Oops. I was multiplying 512 bits times 5000 bits per
> second. I guess I lost 
> a digit. Sorry.
> 
> Now it's a much more interesting problem!
> 
> Priscilla
> 
> At 06:22 PM 10/10/00, Brian wrote:
> >On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> >
> > > At 12:01 PM 10/10/00, Arun Upadhyay wrote:
> > > >Can anybody please help in solving this
> problem?
> > > >
> > > >A router is connected to a T1 line which has
> the
> > > >maximum speed of 1.544mbps. The router begins
> to
> > > >forward 64bkps packet at 5000 packets per
> second,
> > >
> > > Do you mean 64-byte packets? If you convert that
> to bits it's 512 bits.
> > > 5000 packets of that size per second is 560,000
> bits per second, which 
> > is a
> > > lot less than 1.544 Mbps so not much buffereing
> will be needed at all. You
> > > could have just one buffer and no packets should
> ever get dropped.
> >
> >Priscilla,
> >
> >How did you come up with 560,000 bits per second? 
> Can you break that down
> >for me, I know I must be doing something wrong:
> >
> >64bytes * 8 = 512 bits
> >512 bits * 5000 packets = 256 bits
> >
> >brian
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > >there are 500 buffers available.
> > >
> > > How big are the buffers? Can we assume they are
> 64 bytes also?
> > >
> > >
> > > >Approximately how
> > > >long before the link is complelety saturated,
> the
> > > >buffers are full and the router begins to
> discard.
> > >
> > > If you are trying to get help with questions
> like this that appear on the
> > > CCIE written test and practice exams, you will
> want to give us an example
> > > of where the WAN link is oversubscribed. For
> example, if the offered load
> > > to the WAN link is 110% more than the WAN link
> could handle, 500 buffers
> > > would get used up in about 5000 packet times. (I
> think? Comments anyone?)
> > >
> > > In reality, packets don't arrive at a constant
> rate, so much more 
> > difficult
> > > math and queuing theory is required, and that
> goes beyond the research and
> > > thinking I'm willing to do right now. &;-)
> > >
> > > Priscilla
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >  Thanks.
> > > >
> > > >  Arun
> > > >
> > > >=
> > > >Arun Upadhyay
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Re: CCIE question about buffers being used up on router

2000-10-10 Thread whatshakin

Please explain how you got this: 1.544Mbps = 192KB/sec

- Original Message - 
From: Arun Upadhyay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: CCIE question about buffers being used up on router


> 
>   Hi Priscilla
>I found the solution.
> 
> Here it is:
>  1.544Mbps = 192KB/sec
>   Router begins to forward at the rate of 64KB/sec
> means it is tranfering at the rate of 3 packets/sec
> i.e it will take 1/3 sec. or 333 ms to transfer one
> packet.
> 
>  Now it's getting packets at the rate of 5000
> packets/sec i.e one packet in every 1/5000 sec. or
> 1000/5000 = .2 ms
> so it will get 500 packets in 500x.2=100 ms
> 
>  So by the time router will forward first packet in
> 333ms, it's buffer will be full.
> 
>   Thanks for your help.
> 
> 
> --- Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Oops. I was multiplying 512 bits times 5000 bits per
> > second. I guess I lost
> > a digit. Sorry.
> >
> > Now it's a much more interesting problem!
> >
> > Priscilla
> >
> > At 06:22 PM 10/10/00, Brian wrote:
> > >On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> > >
> > > > At 12:01 PM 10/10/00, Arun Upadhyay wrote:
> > > > >Can anybody please help in solving this
> > problem?
> > > > >
> > > > >A router is connected to a T1 line which has
> > the
> > > > >maximum speed of 1.544mbps. The router begins
> > to
> > > > >forward 64bkps packet at 5000 packets per
> > second,
> > > >
> > > > Do you mean 64-byte packets? If you convert that
> > to bits it's 512 bits.
> > > > 5000 packets of that size per second is 560,000
> > bits per second, which
> > > is a
> > > > lot less than 1.544 Mbps so not much buffereing
> > will be needed at all. You
> > > > could have just one buffer and no packets should
> > ever get dropped.
> > >
> > >Priscilla,
> > >
> > >How did you come up with 560,000 bits per second?
> > Can you break that down
> > >for me, I know I must be doing something wrong:
> > >
> > >64bytes * 8 = 512 bits
> > >512 bits * 5000 packets = 256 bits
> > >
> > >brian
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >there are 500 buffers available.
> > > >
> > > > How big are the buffers? Can we assume they are
> > 64 bytes also?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >Approximately how
> > > > >long before the link is complelety saturated,
> > the
> > > > >buffers are full and the router begins to
> > discard.
> > > >
> > > > If you are trying to get help with questions
> > like this that appear on the
> > > > CCIE written test and practice exams, you will
> > want to give us an example
> > > > of where the WAN link is oversubscribed. For
> > example, if the offered load
> > > > to the WAN link is 110% more than the WAN link
> > could handle, 500 buffers
> > > > would get used up in about 5000 packet times. (I
> > think? Comments anyone?)
> > > >
> > > > In reality, packets don't arrive at a constant
> > rate, so much more
> > > difficult
> > > > math and queuing theory is required, and that
> > goes beyond the research and
> > > > thinking I'm willing to do right now. &;-)
> > > >
> > > > Priscilla
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >  Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > >  Arun
> > > > >
> > > > >=
> > > > >Arun Upadhyay
> > > > >SE Engineering
> > > > >MCSE CCNA CNA
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Re: CCIE question about buffers being used up on router

2000-10-10 Thread Brian W.

I'll speculate its like this.  On a full t1, 1536 megabits are actually
usable out of the 1544 on the circuit. Capital B is the byte symbol, and
there are 8 bits in a byte, so 1536 divided by 8=192

Brian

On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, whatshakin wrote:

> Please explain how you got this: 1.544Mbps = 192KB/sec
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: Arun Upadhyay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 8:34 PM
> Subject: Re: CCIE question about buffers being used up on router
> 
> 
> > 
> >   Hi Priscilla
> >I found the solution.
> > 
> > Here it is:
> >  1.544Mbps = 192KB/sec
> >   Router begins to forward at the rate of 64KB/sec
> > means it is tranfering at the rate of 3 packets/sec
> > i.e it will take 1/3 sec. or 333 ms to transfer one
> > packet.
> > 
> >  Now it's getting packets at the rate of 5000
> > packets/sec i.e one packet in every 1/5000 sec. or
> > 1000/5000 = .2 ms
> > so it will get 500 packets in 500x.2=100 ms
> > 
> >  So by the time router will forward first packet in
> > 333ms, it's buffer will be full.
> > 
> >   Thanks for your help.
> > 
> > 
> > --- Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Oops. I was multiplying 512 bits times 5000 bits per
> > > second. I guess I lost
> > > a digit. Sorry.
> > >
> > > Now it's a much more interesting problem!
> > >
> > > Priscilla
> > >
> > > At 06:22 PM 10/10/00, Brian wrote:
> > > >On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > At 12:01 PM 10/10/00, Arun Upadhyay wrote:
> > > > > >Can anybody please help in solving this
> > > problem?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >A router is connected to a T1 line which has
> > > the
> > > > > >maximum speed of 1.544mbps. The router begins
> > > to
> > > > > >forward 64bkps packet at 5000 packets per
> > > second,
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you mean 64-byte packets? If you convert that
> > > to bits it's 512 bits.
> > > > > 5000 packets of that size per second is 560,000
> > > bits per second, which
> > > > is a
> > > > > lot less than 1.544 Mbps so not much buffereing
> > > will be needed at all. You
> > > > > could have just one buffer and no packets should
> > > ever get dropped.
> > > >
> > > >Priscilla,
> > > >
> > > >How did you come up with 560,000 bits per second?
> > > Can you break that down
> > > >for me, I know I must be doing something wrong:
> > > >
> > > >64bytes * 8 = 512 bits
> > > >512 bits * 5000 packets = 256 bits
> > > >
> > > >brian
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >there are 500 buffers available.
> > > > >
> > > > > How big are the buffers? Can we assume they are
> > > 64 bytes also?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >Approximately how
> > > > > >long before the link is complelety saturated,
> > > the
> > > > > >buffers are full and the router begins to
> > > discard.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you are trying to get help with questions
> > > like this that appear on the
> > > > > CCIE written test and practice exams, you will
> > > want to give us an example
> > > > > of where the WAN link is oversubscribed. For
> > > example, if the offered load
> > > > > to the WAN link is 110% more than the WAN link
> > > could handle, 500 buffers
> > > > > would get used up in about 5000 packet times. (I
> > > think? Comments anyone?)
> > > > >
> > > > > In reality, packets don't arrive at a constant
> > > rate, so much more
> > > > difficult
> > > > > math and queuing theory is required, and that
> > > goes beyond the research and
> > > > > thinking I'm willing to do right now. &;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Priscilla
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >  Thanks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  Arun
> > > > > >
&g

Re: CCIE question about buffers being used up on router

2000-10-11 Thread Brian

On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, whatshakin wrote:

> Please explain how you got this: 1.544Mbps = 192KB/sec

He was no doubt doing one of:

1544999/8
193124

1536999/8
192124

but yeah basically a t1 is 192KB/s

> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: Arun Upadhyay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 8:34 PM
> Subject: Re: CCIE question about buffers being used up on router
> 
> 
> > 
> >   Hi Priscilla
> >I found the solution.
> > 
> > Here it is:
> >  1.544Mbps = 192KB/sec
> >   Router begins to forward at the rate of 64KB/sec
> > means it is tranfering at the rate of 3 packets/sec
> > i.e it will take 1/3 sec. or 333 ms to transfer one
> > packet.
> > 
> >  Now it's getting packets at the rate of 5000
> > packets/sec i.e one packet in every 1/5000 sec. or
> > 1000/5000 = .2 ms
> > so it will get 500 packets in 500x.2=100 ms
> > 
> >  So by the time router will forward first packet in
> > 333ms, it's buffer will be full.
> > 
> >   Thanks for your help.
> > 
> > 
> > --- Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Oops. I was multiplying 512 bits times 5000 bits per
> > > second. I guess I lost
> > > a digit. Sorry.
> > >
> > > Now it's a much more interesting problem!
> > >
> > > Priscilla
> > >
> > > At 06:22 PM 10/10/00, Brian wrote:
> > > >On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > At 12:01 PM 10/10/00, Arun Upadhyay wrote:
> > > > > >Can anybody please help in solving this
> > > problem?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >A router is connected to a T1 line which has
> > > the
> > > > > >maximum speed of 1.544mbps. The router begins
> > > to
> > > > > >forward 64bkps packet at 5000 packets per
> > > second,
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you mean 64-byte packets? If you convert that
> > > to bits it's 512 bits.
> > > > > 5000 packets of that size per second is 560,000
> > > bits per second, which
> > > > is a
> > > > > lot less than 1.544 Mbps so not much buffereing
> > > will be needed at all. You
> > > > > could have just one buffer and no packets should
> > > ever get dropped.
> > > >
> > > >Priscilla,
> > > >
> > > >How did you come up with 560,000 bits per second?
> > > Can you break that down
> > > >for me, I know I must be doing something wrong:
> > > >
> > > >64bytes * 8 = 512 bits
> > > >512 bits * 5000 packets = 256 bits
> > > >
> > > >brian
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >there are 500 buffers available.
> > > > >
> > > > > How big are the buffers? Can we assume they are
> > > 64 bytes also?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >Approximately how
> > > > > >long before the link is complelety saturated,
> > > the
> > > > > >buffers are full and the router begins to
> > > discard.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you are trying to get help with questions
> > > like this that appear on the
> > > > > CCIE written test and practice exams, you will
> > > want to give us an example
> > > > > of where the WAN link is oversubscribed. For
> > > example, if the offered load
> > > > > to the WAN link is 110% more than the WAN link
> > > could handle, 500 buffers
> > > > > would get used up in about 5000 packet times. (I
> > > think? Comments anyone?)
> > > > >
> > > > > In reality, packets don't arrive at a constant
> > > rate, so much more
> > > > difficult
> > > > > math and queuing theory is required, and that
> > > goes beyond the research and
> > > > > thinking I'm willing to do right now. &;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Priscilla
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >  Thanks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  Arun
> > > > > >
> > > > > >=
> >

Re: CCIE question about buffers being used up on router

2000-10-11 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Cool! Thanks. I hope I didn't confuse you too much with my mistake.

Good luck on CCIE!

Priscilla

At 08:34 PM 10/10/00, you wrote:

>   Hi Priscilla
>I found the solution.
>
> Here it is:
>  1.544Mbps = 192KB/sec
>   Router begins to forward at the rate of 64KB/sec
>means it is tranfering at the rate of 3 packets/sec
>i.e it will take 1/3 sec. or 333 ms to transfer one
>packet.
>
>  Now it's getting packets at the rate of 5000
>packets/sec i.e one packet in every 1/5000 sec. or
>1000/5000 = .2 ms
>so it will get 500 packets in 500x.2=100 ms
>
>  So by the time router will forward first packet in
>333ms, it's buffer will be full.
>
>   Thanks for your help.
>
>
>--- Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Oops. I was multiplying 512 bits times 5000 bits per
> > second. I guess I lost
> > a digit. Sorry.
> >
> > Now it's a much more interesting problem!
> >
> > Priscilla
> >
> > At 06:22 PM 10/10/00, Brian wrote:
> > >On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> > >
> > > > At 12:01 PM 10/10/00, Arun Upadhyay wrote:
> > > > >Can anybody please help in solving this
> > problem?
> > > > >
> > > > >A router is connected to a T1 line which has
> > the
> > > > >maximum speed of 1.544mbps. The router begins
> > to
> > > > >forward 64bkps packet at 5000 packets per
> > second,
> > > >
> > > > Do you mean 64-byte packets? If you convert that
> > to bits it's 512 bits.
> > > > 5000 packets of that size per second is 560,000
> > bits per second, which
> > > is a
> > > > lot less than 1.544 Mbps so not much buffereing
> > will be needed at all. You
> > > > could have just one buffer and no packets should
> > ever get dropped.
> > >
> > >Priscilla,
> > >
> > >How did you come up with 560,000 bits per second?
> > Can you break that down
> > >for me, I know I must be doing something wrong:
> > >
> > >64bytes * 8 = 512 bits
> > >512 bits * 5000 packets = 256 bits
> > >
> > >brian
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >there are 500 buffers available.
> > > >
> > > > How big are the buffers? Can we assume they are
> > 64 bytes also?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >Approximately how
> > > > >long before the link is complelety saturated,
> > the
> > > > >buffers are full and the router begins to
> > discard.
> > > >
> > > > If you are trying to get help with questions
> > like this that appear on the
> > > > CCIE written test and practice exams, you will
> > want to give us an example
> > > > of where the WAN link is oversubscribed. For
> > example, if the offered load
> > > > to the WAN link is 110% more than the WAN link
> > could handle, 500 buffers
> > > > would get used up in about 5000 packet times. (I
> > think? Comments anyone?)
> > > >
> > > > In reality, packets don't arrive at a constant
> > rate, so much more
> > > difficult
> > > > math and queuing theory is required, and that
> > goes beyond the research and
> > > > thinking I'm willing to do right now. &;-)
> > > >
> > > > Priscilla
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >  Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > >  Arun
> > > > >
> > > > >=
> > > > >Arun Upadhyay
> > > > >SE Engineering
> > > > >MCSE CCNA CNA
> > > > >
> > > >




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Re: CCIE question about buffers being used up on router

2000-10-11 Thread Chuck Church

Wouldn't the answer to this depend on the speed of the router, and which
switching method is used?  A 16xx or 25xx using access lists might not be
able to handle 5000 pps.  I thought a process switched 2500 was actually in
the sub-1000 range for pps.  What's the actual answer?

Chuck Church
CCNP, CCDP, MCNE, MCSE
Sr. Network Engineer
Magnacom Technologies
140 N. Rt. 303
Valley Cottage, NY 10989
845-267-4000 x218


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