RE: CCNP [7:35756]

2002-02-20 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G

Too expensive. There are other sites out there that have good reputations
that are much less expensive.

Shawn K.

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I have heard some good things about ftexp.com.

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I have found that going through the book a couple of times is the best
thing.  The Boson's are heralded but I don't know why.  I think they suck.
JMO.

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Subject: CCNP [7:35756]

Whats the best test practise suite for CCNP

I am doing the exams in this order

a. switching
b. routing
c. remote access
d. support

whats the best for

a. switching
b. routing




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RE: CCNP [7:35756]

2002-02-20 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G

I have used Boson in the past and some of them are good. However, I feel
that there are also other materials out there that are much less expensive
that cover more of what is on the exams. I think that some of the authors
for Boson/Quizware don't concentrate on what is actually being tested on and
just write a bunch of questions and answers. If you have to use Boson
products, you may want to check out Quizware.com, which is affiliated with
Boson. Their products have more material at a better price.  

Disclaimer: I have done work for Boson/Quizware

Shawn K.

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From: Roberts, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 8:57 PM
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I have to agree with David on this.

I don't think that someone could just take the Boson's over and over and
pass ( at least not for the higher level tests ) but I think they do a good
job of focusing you on what is and isn't the more important parts of the
test.

I just took ( and passed YEA! ) the CCIE Security written today. I have been
studying for what seems an eternity, but was at an impass as to what I would
actually need to know for the test.

I purchased the CCIE Security practice exam last night and used it for that
last minute test my skills check. It brought to light some weak spots in my
understanding that I didn't realize where there. On those questions I
followed the links to the Cisco documents and re-learned the subject matter
over. I don't credit my passing to the test, but I do think that they helped
me improve my score , and MOST importantly my understanding of the subject.

Only complaint that I have with the Boson tests is that there tends to be a
large amount of grammatical errors, some of which can lead to confusion.

Although after taking the Security test in which there were some just plain
wrong questions, not to mention the ones that make no sense, that might help
them feel more similar :)

Thanks

Larry 

-Original Message-
From: David L. Blair [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 8:08 PM
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I completely DISAGREE!!

Boson's test do not simulator the actual testing experience,  i.e.. the
vagueness of Cisco's test.  Boson's do test the level of knowledge needed to
pass a given test.

Disclaimer:  I have done some consulting for Boson in the past and present.
I used Boson's test for every Cisco test that I have passed which was before
I did any consulting for Boson.


Through Complexity there is Simplicity,
   Through Simplicity there is Complexity

David L. Blair - CCNP, CCNA, MCSE, CBE, A+, 3Wizard



Joshua Barnes  wrote in message
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 I have found that going through the book a couple of times is the best
 thing.  The Boson's are heralded but I don't know why.  I think they 
 suck. JMO.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf
 Of Liko Agosta
 Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 2:17 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: CCNP [7:35756]

 Whats the best test practise suite for CCNP

 I am doing the exams in this order

 a. switching
 b. routing
 c. remote access
 d. support

 whats the best for

 a. switching
 b. routing




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FW: CCNP [7:35756]

2002-02-19 Thread Lintemuth, Tom

I have heard some good things about ftexp.com.

-Original Message-
From: Joshua Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 3:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CCNP [7:35756]


I have found that going through the book a couple of times is the best
thing.  The Boson's are heralded but I don't know why.  I think they
suck.
JMO.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Liko Agosta
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 2:17 PM
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Subject: CCNP [7:35756]

Whats the best test practise suite for CCNP

I am doing the exams in this order

a. switching
b. routing
c. remote access
d. support

whats the best for

a. switching
b. routing




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Re: CCNP [7:35756]

2002-02-19 Thread David L. Blair

I completely DISAGREE!!

Boson's test do not simulator the actual testing experience,  i.e.. the
vagueness of Cisco's test.  Boson's do test the level of knowledge needed to
pass a given test.

Disclaimer:  I have done some consulting for Boson in the past and present.
I used Boson's test for every Cisco test that I have passed which was before
I did any consulting for Boson.


Through Complexity there is Simplicity,
   Through Simplicity there is Complexity

David L. Blair - CCNP, CCNA, MCSE, CBE, A+, 3Wizard



Joshua Barnes  wrote in message
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 I have found that going through the book a couple of times is the best
 thing.  The Boson's are heralded but I don't know why.  I think they
 suck.
 JMO.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
 Liko Agosta
 Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 2:17 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: CCNP [7:35756]

 Whats the best test practise suite for CCNP

 I am doing the exams in this order

 a. switching
 b. routing
 c. remote access
 d. support

 whats the best for

 a. switching
 b. routing




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RE: CCNP [7:35756]

2002-02-19 Thread Roberts, Larry

I have to agree with David on this.

I don't think that someone could just take the Boson's over and over and
pass ( at least not for the higher level tests ) but I think they do a good
job of focusing you on what is and isn't the more important parts of the
test.

I just took ( and passed YEA! ) the CCIE Security written today. I have been
studying for what seems an eternity, but was at an impass as to what I would
actually need to know for the test.

I purchased the CCIE Security practice exam last night and used it for that
last minute test my skills check. It brought to light some weak spots in my
understanding that I didn't realize where there. On those questions I
followed the links to the Cisco documents and re-learned the subject matter
over. I don't credit my passing to the test, but I do think that they helped
me improve my score , and MOST importantly my understanding of the subject.

Only complaint that I have with the Boson tests is that there tends to be a
large amount of grammatical errors, some of which can lead to confusion.

Although after taking the Security test in which there were some just plain
wrong questions, not to mention the ones that make no sense, that might help
them feel more similar :)

Thanks

Larry 

-Original Message-
From: David L. Blair [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 8:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CCNP [7:35756]


I completely DISAGREE!!

Boson's test do not simulator the actual testing experience,  i.e.. the
vagueness of Cisco's test.  Boson's do test the level of knowledge needed to
pass a given test.

Disclaimer:  I have done some consulting for Boson in the past and present.
I used Boson's test for every Cisco test that I have passed which was before
I did any consulting for Boson.


Through Complexity there is Simplicity,
   Through Simplicity there is Complexity

David L. Blair - CCNP, CCNA, MCSE, CBE, A+, 3Wizard



Joshua Barnes  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 I have found that going through the book a couple of times is the best 
 thing.  The Boson's are heralded but I don't know why.  I think they 
 suck. JMO.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf 
 Of Liko Agosta
 Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 2:17 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: CCNP [7:35756]

 Whats the best test practise suite for CCNP

 I am doing the exams in this order

 a. switching
 b. routing
 c. remote access
 d. support

 whats the best for

 a. switching
 b. routing




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CCNP [7:35756]

2002-02-18 Thread Liko Agosta

Whats the best test practise suite for CCNP

I am doing the exams in this order

a. switching
b. routing
c. remote access
d. support

whats the best for

a. switching
b. routing




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RE: CCNP [7:35756]

2002-02-18 Thread Joshua Barnes

I have found that going through the book a couple of times is the best
thing.  The Boson's are heralded but I don't know why.  I think they
suck.
JMO.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Liko Agosta
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 2:17 PM
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Subject: CCNP [7:35756]

Whats the best test practise suite for CCNP

I am doing the exams in this order

a. switching
b. routing
c. remote access
d. support

whats the best for

a. switching
b. routing




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Re: CCNP [7:35756]

2002-02-18 Thread ko haag

Do the exams you are most comfortable with.  The routing exam is the one my
friends had
problems with but I didn't because of my experience.  The exam that gave me
much pain
was the Switching exam.  The exam crams worked pretty good for me.

Ko

Liko Agosta wrote:

 Whats the best test practise suite for CCNP

 I am doing the exams in this order

 a. switching
 b. routing
 c. remote access
 d. support

 whats the best for

 a. switching
 b. routing




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