Cabling techniques between 4006 & 2550 [7:51411]

2002-08-14 Thread John Brandis

Hi All,

Am building a new network and have some questions to answer, before I get
cabling quotes. I have placed an order for a Cat 4006 at my core, and some
20 2550 switch's at my distribution layer. Running a pretty simple network.

MY question is:

1). To run between the 3 floors in my building, what type of fibre would be
best used


2). What type of termination points of the fibre,, are required, so i can
cnonnect to the 4006 and 2550 respectively.

Thanks all for your answers last night about the VPN. I got it going after
some pre-shared key spelling mistakes, and a bug in the VPN concentrator
software was found.

John
Sydney, Australia


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Re: Cabling techniques between 4006 & 2550 [7:51411]

2002-08-14 Thread Chuck's Long Road

2950 switches?

all Cisco GBIC's ( and in fact all GBIC's in general ) are SC connectors.
there are such thing as SC-ST patch cables, in case your contractor
terminates the fiber as ST.

Multimode fiber has a distance limitation of 1800 feet or so. You can use LX
GBIC's in conjunction with mode conditioning patch cables at both ends over
multimode fiber, and extend that distance quite a bit.

Or you can go with single mode.  I am not certain, but I "think" I read
someplace that single mode fiber on short runs requires an attenuation patch
cable at both ends

The GBIC's don't care much what kind of fiber you use, but you do need to be
aware of the "gotcha's"

I don't have the Cisco link hand, but a search on "GBIC" and "distance"
should get you to a couple of good guides on CCO.

HTH

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""John Brandis""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi All,
>
> Am building a new network and have some questions to answer, before I get
> cabling quotes. I have placed an order for a Cat 4006 at my core, and some
> 20 2550 switch's at my distribution layer. Running a pretty simple
network.
>
> MY question is:
>
> 1). To run between the 3 floors in my building, what type of fibre would
be
> best used
>
>
> 2). What type of termination points of the fibre,, are required, so i can
> cnonnect to the 4006 and 2550 respectively.
>
> Thanks all for your answers last night about the VPN. I got it going after
> some pre-shared key spelling mistakes, and a bug in the VPN concentrator
> software was found.
>
> John
> Sydney, Australia
>
>
> **
>
> visit http://www.solution6.com
> visit http://www.eccountancy.com - everything for accountants.
>
> UK Customers - http://www.solution6.co.uk
>
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RE: Cabling techniques between 4006 & 2550 [7:51411]

2002-08-14 Thread Jeffrey Reed

John, I would recommend installing both some multimode fiber and single mode
fiber. Most cable vendors can provide a single sheathed set of cables that
includes both types of fiber. The distance for typical multimode fiber on SX
GBICS is at least 220 meters, some Cisco sources will say their optics are
better quality and will run 500M. I would stay away from mode conditioning
cables if at all possible; they are very difficult to dress up neatly which
reduces overall long term reliability. The multimode fiber GBICs are rather
inexpensive so you can save some money by using multimode only. In fact, if
you really need to save money, don't terminate the single mode because it's
very expensive to put the ends on the cable. Save the single mode for 10G in
a few years. Once you move into LX GBICs on single mode you can go something
like 5k meters away with a minimum distance of 2 meters.

Have fun!!


Jeffrey Reed
Classic Networking, Inc.
Cell 717-805-5536
Office 717-737-8586
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Subject: Re: Cabling techniques between 4006 & 2550 [7:51411]

2950 switches?

all Cisco GBIC's ( and in fact all GBIC's in general ) are SC connectors.
there are such thing as SC-ST patch cables, in case your contractor
terminates the fiber as ST.

Multimode fiber has a distance limitation of 1800 feet or so. You can use LX
GBIC's in conjunction with mode conditioning patch cables at both ends over
multimode fiber, and extend that distance quite a bit.

Or you can go with single mode.  I am not certain, but I "think" I read
someplace that single mode fiber on short runs requires an attenuation patch
cable at both ends

The GBIC's don't care much what kind of fiber you use, but you do need to be
aware of the "gotcha's"

I don't have the Cisco link hand, but a search on "GBIC" and "distance"
should get you to a couple of good guides on CCO.

HTH

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""John Brandis""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi All,
>
> Am building a new network and have some questions to answer, before I get
> cabling quotes. I have placed an order for a Cat 4006 at my core, and some
> 20 2550 switch's at my distribution layer. Running a pretty simple
network.
>
> MY question is:
>
> 1). To run between the 3 floors in my building, what type of fibre would
be
> best used
>
>
> 2). What type of termination points of the fibre,, are required, so i can
> cnonnect to the 4006 and 2550 respectively.
>
> Thanks all for your answers last night about the VPN. I got it going after
> some pre-shared key spelling mistakes, and a bug in the VPN concentrator
> software was found.
>
> John
> Sydney, Australia
>
>
> **
>
> visit http://www.solution6.com
> visit http://www.eccountancy.com - everything for accountants.
>
> UK Customers - http://www.solution6.co.uk
>
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RE: Cabling techniques between 4006 & 2550 [7:51411]

2002-08-14 Thread Jarvis Steven C A1C 18 CS/SCBT

The only GBIC that doesn't care whether or not you use MM or SM is the LX/LH
GBIC. There are two other types that might benifit your situation. The SX
GBIC is cheaper and is only compatabile w/ MM. I have seen instances where
I've caught link off of SM but only from a 3 meter patch cord. The distance
limitation of SX GBIC's is relevant to what micron core you have and the
modal frequencies of the fiber. The range of 62.5 micron and 160 MHz/km
frequency is 722 ft (220 m) and 50.0 micron and 500 MHz/km freq is 1804 ft
(550 m). Also there is the ZX model which is the nicest, it uses SM and can
shoot up to 62.1 miles (100 km). Depending on the size of the building I
would recommend using the SX cards. In most cases everything across the
board is cheaper, and (although I'm unsure of your situation) there doesn't
seem to be the need for the greater distance features of the other cards.
Hope this helps.

Steve Jarvis 

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2950 switches?

all Cisco GBIC's ( and in fact all GBIC's in general ) are SC connectors.
there are such thing as SC-ST patch cables, in case your contractor
terminates the fiber as ST.

Multimode fiber has a distance limitation of 1800 feet or so. You can use LX
GBIC's in conjunction with mode conditioning patch cables at both ends over
multimode fiber, and extend that distance quite a bit.

Or you can go with single mode.  I am not certain, but I "think" I read
someplace that single mode fiber on short runs requires an attenuation patch
cable at both ends

The GBIC's don't care much what kind of fiber you use, but you do need to be
aware of the "gotcha's"

I don't have the Cisco link hand, but a search on "GBIC" and "distance"
should get you to a couple of good guides on CCO.

HTH

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""John Brandis""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi All,
>
> Am building a new network and have some questions to answer, before I get
> cabling quotes. I have placed an order for a Cat 4006 at my core, and some
> 20 2550 switch's at my distribution layer. Running a pretty simple
network.
>
> MY question is:
>
> 1). To run between the 3 floors in my building, what type of fibre would
be
> best used
>
>
> 2). What type of termination points of the fibre,, are required, so i can
> cnonnect to the 4006 and 2550 respectively.
>
> Thanks all for your answers last night about the VPN. I got it going after
> some pre-shared key spelling mistakes, and a bug in the VPN concentrator
> software was found.
>
> John
> Sydney, Australia
>
>
> **
>
> visit http://www.solution6.com
> visit http://www.eccountancy.com - everything for accountants.
>
> UK Customers - http://www.solution6.co.uk
>
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