Catalyst 6500 vs 7200 VXR [7:62892]

2003-02-12 Thread Brett Johnson
What benefits can a Catalyst 6500 switch provide that a 7200 router cannot?
Are the FLEXWAN modules a reliable product or is it better to separate your
WAN traffic devices from you LAN devices?  What about the performance of the
FLEXWAN modules?  I am just trying to understand if money is no object why
would someone buy a 7200 router over a Catalyst 6500 with FLEXWAN modules.
Thank you, sorry if this is too vague.

Brett




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Re: Catalyst 6500 vs 7200 VXR [7:62892]

2003-02-12 Thread MADMAN
Brett Johnson wrote:
> What benefits can a Catalyst 6500 switch provide that a 7200 router cannot?

   The 6500 is also a switch.

> Are the FLEXWAN modules a reliable product or is it better to separate your
> WAN traffic devices from you LAN devices? 

   They work well though some would rather keep the WAN out of their 
core.  Some cusomters keep the core layer 2 etc...

  What about the performance of the
> FLEXWAN modules?

   I have a local customer that have two 6509's at each of 4 hospitals 
with flexwans in each.  One switches flexwan has an ATM PA the other a 
PA-4T.  ATM is the primary link and frame for the backup.  The core site 
has 7200's simply because of the number of WANs to be terminated.  Works 
very well.

   I am just trying to understand if money is no object why
> would someone buy a 7200 router over a Catalyst 6500 with FLEXWAN modules.
> Thank you, sorry if this is too vague.

   If the 6500 was the core of my net I would not want to terminate 
vendor WANs or an Internet connection on a flexwan for example so the 
decision depends on your network design, security issues, number of WAN 
ports etc...

   I'm sure if you look hard you can find the various packet forwarding 
rates for each on CCO.

> 
> Brett
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Re: Catalyst 6500 vs 7200 VXR [7:62892]

2003-02-12 Thread Larry Letterman
Or if you have plenty of money and nothing better to spend
it on,
you can remove the 7200's and purchase 6506's with
flex-wans. Provides the same
service and cost a bit more. Those of us here San Jose wont
mind a bit

Larry Letterman
Network Engineer
Cisco Systems


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> Brett Johnson wrote:
> > What benefits can a Catalyst 6500 switch provide that a
7200 router cannot?
>
>The 6500 is also a switch.
>
> > Are the FLEXWAN modules a reliable product or is it
better to separate your
> > WAN traffic devices from you LAN devices?
>
>They work well though some would rather keep the WAN
out of their
> core.  Some cusomters keep the core layer 2 etc...
>
>   What about the performance of the
> > FLEXWAN modules?
>
>I have a local customer that have two 6509's at each of
4 hospitals
> with flexwans in each.  One switches flexwan has an ATM PA
the other a
> PA-4T.  ATM is the primary link and frame for the backup.
The core site
> has 7200's simply because of the number of WANs to be
terminated.  Works
> very well.
>
>I am just trying to understand if money is no object
why
> > would someone buy a 7200 router over a Catalyst 6500
with FLEXWAN modules.
> > Thank you, sorry if this is too vague.
>
>If the 6500 was the core of my net I would not want to
terminate
> vendor WANs or an Internet connection on a flexwan for
example so the
> decision depends on your network design, security issues,
number of WAN
> ports etc...
>
>I'm sure if you look hard you can find the various
packet forwarding
> rates for each on CCO.
>
> >
> > Brett
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> David Madland
> CCIE# 2016
> Sr. Network Engineer
> Qwest Communications
> 612-664-3367
>
> "You don't make the poor richer by making the rich
poorer." --Winston
> Churchill
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Re: Catalyst 6500 vs 7200 VXR [7:62892]

2003-02-12 Thread Peter van Oene
At 06:37 PM 2/12/2003 +, Brett Johnson wrote:
>What benefits can a Catalyst 6500 switch provide that a 7200 router cannot?
>Are the FLEXWAN modules a reliable product or is it better to separate your
>WAN traffic devices from you LAN devices?  What about the performance of the
>FLEXWAN modules?  I am just trying to understand if money is no object why
>would someone buy a 7200 router over a Catalyst 6500 with FLEXWAN modules.
>Thank you, sorry if this is too vague.

I personally would recommend separating L2 switching from routing 
myself.  Purpose built platforms tend to have optimal cost efficiencies and 
stable software.   Nice, fast, cheap L2 switching to the desktop tapped 
into a decent routed backbone sounds ideal to me.  Small broadcast domains 
are quite helpful as well, unless you are a big fan of Sapping Tree.



>Brett




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Re: Catalyst 6500 vs 7200 VXR [7:62892]

2003-02-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
We are pretty happy with 6509 switches. Before that, 7507 routers were
responsable for packet forwarding ( more or less 96 Mbps of inter-vlan
traffic).

My only concern is about using 6509 on a MPLS backbone.  From what I have
search, it is necessary a specific card.





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At 06:37 PM 2/12/2003 +, Brett Johnson wrote:
>What benefits can a Catalyst 6500 switch provide that a 7200 router
cannot?
>Are the FLEXWAN modules a reliable product or is it better to separate
your
>WAN traffic devices from you LAN devices?  What about the performance of
the
>FLEXWAN modules?  I am just trying to understand if money is no object why
>would someone buy a 7200 router over a Catalyst 6500 with FLEXWAN modules.
>Thank you, sorry if this is too vague.

I personally would recommend separating L2 switching from routing
myself.  Purpose built platforms tend to have optimal cost efficiencies and
stable software.   Nice, fast, cheap L2 switching to the desktop tapped
into a decent routed backbone sounds ideal to me.  Small broadcast domains
are quite helpful as well, unless you are a big fan of Sapping Tree.



>Brett




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