Re: Cisco Secure VPN 642-511 [7:73919]
Just received e-mail from Cisco that they would send me the INFOSEC letter of recognition after I signed the Cisco Certification Agreement. I am spending time on other interesting stuffs which is not Cisco and not sure if I would sit for recert. ""Kevin Wigle"" wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > on the same page is an INFOSEC Professional link. Cisco has been granted > rights to award this cert. It is NOT a Cisco cert. Which is cool because > once it is awarded there is no need to recertify, it is permanent. > > Which is opposite to everything Cisco does - especially CCSP - to recert > CCSP you have to take all 5 exams again. Hopefully by the time people get 3 > years in CCSP Cisco will have a single recert exam like they do for > CCIE/CCDP/CCNP > > I might do the security exams once to get the INFOSEC cert and then forget > the recert on the Cisco stuff. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=74180&t=73919 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Re: Cisco Secure VPN 642-511 [7:73919]
I'm for the check CCO part of your post. Visit http://www.cisco.com/en/US/learning/le3/le30/le13/learning_learning_path.html and you'll see all the Specialist certifications. They are not going anywhere - yet. The CCSP is still going strong: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/learning/le3/le2/le37/le54/learning_certification_type_home.html on the same page is an INFOSEC Professional link. Cisco has been granted rights to award this cert. It is NOT a Cisco cert. Which is cool because once it is awarded there is no need to recertify, it is permanent. Which is opposite to everything Cisco does - especially CCSP - to recert CCSP you have to take all 5 exams again. Hopefully by the time people get 3 years in CCSP Cisco will have a single recert exam like they do for CCIE/CCDP/CCNP I might do the security exams once to get the INFOSEC cert and then forget the recert on the Cisco stuff. If you get the CCSP you'll also have the credits to be a Firewall Spec, IDS Spec and a VPN Spec. It would make for a crowded business card. The specs are good for 2 years, the CCSP is good for 3 years. Which is also weird as you used the specs to get CCSP but they expire first. I'm sure there are "good" reasons for these certification oddities. Kevin Wigle CCDP CCNP MCSE CBE Security+ - Original Message - From: "Reimer, Fred" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 9:45 AM Subject: Cisco Secure VPN 642-511 [7:73919] > Change of subject, and a massive trim. > > The KnowledgeNet course was good. I took the "Express" "with Mentor." > Contrary to their recommendations, I didn't see much value in their mentors. > Not to say that they are not knowledgeable or anything, just that 90% of the > time my "questions" for the mentors were corrections in the Cisco > courseware. The course was for the new test. I believe there were a few > questions on the test that were not covered in the course. > > You get the Cisco courseware documentation, and access to their on-line > power-point type slides with an instructor basically saying the same thing > as is in the courseware. However, they do talk about some things that are > not in the manuals. You should have six weeks to go through it. I'd > suggest taking a day off or spending a Saturday to go through the whole > course, but that's just me. I can't do the one hour here and there thing. > > They also include "labs" or simulations of setting up the hardware. > However, they don't have an actual lab. I think they are working on that, > but I found it very useful to have a "real" 3000 available to go through the > menus. > > If you haven't taken this test before, don't skip the practice thing in the > beginning. One of the simulations worked a bit differently than I was > expecting, and although I'm sure I knew what I was doing I'm not sure if I > got credit for that question. > > Know all the menus, and what items are on the actual configuration screens. > > I have a side question myself. Cisco changed their specialist program, so > that now apparently there isn't a Firewall Specialist, VPN Specialist, and > IDS Specialist, but rather just one Security Specialist. So does that mean > that I can't use the "VPN Specialist" designation anymore and have to wait > until I pass all of the tests? What about that INFOSEC designation, is that > still valid? > > Perhaps I should just login to the new Certifications Community site and > check there. > > http://forums.cisco.com/eforum/servlet/CertCom?page=main > > Fred Reimer - CCNA > > > Eclipsys Corporation, 200 Ashford Center North, Atlanta, GA 30338 > Phone: 404-847-5177 Cell: 770-490-3071 Pager: 888-260-2050 > > > NOTICE; This email contains confidential or proprietary information which > may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the named recipient(s). > If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected the email, please > notify the author by replying to this message. If you are not the named > recipient, you are not authorized to use, disclose, distribute, copy, print > or rely on this email, and should immediately delete it from your computer. > > > -Original Message- > From: Truman, Michelle, RTSLS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 9:17 AM > To: Reimer, Fred; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: VPN Best Hardware to use? [7:73793] LITTLE OT: [7:73793] > > Can you comment on that particular Knowledgenet class? I'm signed up to > take it in the not too distant future. > Thanks, > > Michelle > > Michelle Truman CCIE # 8098 > Principal Technical Consultant > AT&T Solutions Center > mailto:[EMAIL PROTEC
Re: Cisco Secure VPN 642-511 [7:73919]
Assorted comments in line. --On 12 August 2003 13:45 + "Reimer, Fred" wrote: > > You should have six weeks to go through it. I'd > suggest taking a day off or spending a Saturday to go through the whole > course, but that's just me. I can't do the one hour here and there thing. Hmmm, you should try running through the knowledgenet course after work in the evening, then heading back into the office at midnight and configuring your first concentrator before 8:30am when people start arriving for their days work. That wasnt fun :-) > > They also include "labs" or simulations of setting up the hardware. > However, they don't have an actual lab. I think they are working on that, > but I found it very useful to have a "real" 3000 available to go through > the menus. > Yep. > I have a side question myself. Cisco changed their specialist program, so > that now apparently there isn't a Firewall Specialist, VPN Specialist, and > IDS Specialist, but rather just one Security Specialist. So does that > mean that I can't use the "VPN Specialist" designation anymore and have > to wait until I pass all of the tests? What about that INFOSEC > designation, is that still valid? > I think you have things in reverse. The Security specialist cert is being / has been retired. The three new specialist exams and CCSP replaced it. If you are interested, I expressed my opinion on that change in some detail (either on this list or security ie dot com) a while back. (I wasnt very complementary about the new specialist certs) Regards Peter Walker CC[NID]P, CISSP, CSS1, etc (yeah, my current employer is a reseller) Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=73937&t=73919 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Cisco Secure VPN 642-511 [7:73919]
Change of subject, and a massive trim. The KnowledgeNet course was good. I took the "Express" "with Mentor." Contrary to their recommendations, I didn't see much value in their mentors. Not to say that they are not knowledgeable or anything, just that 90% of the time my "questions" for the mentors were corrections in the Cisco courseware. The course was for the new test. I believe there were a few questions on the test that were not covered in the course. You get the Cisco courseware documentation, and access to their on-line power-point type slides with an instructor basically saying the same thing as is in the courseware. However, they do talk about some things that are not in the manuals. You should have six weeks to go through it. I'd suggest taking a day off or spending a Saturday to go through the whole course, but that's just me. I can't do the one hour here and there thing. They also include "labs" or simulations of setting up the hardware. However, they don't have an actual lab. I think they are working on that, but I found it very useful to have a "real" 3000 available to go through the menus. If you haven't taken this test before, don't skip the practice thing in the beginning. One of the simulations worked a bit differently than I was expecting, and although I'm sure I knew what I was doing I'm not sure if I got credit for that question. Know all the menus, and what items are on the actual configuration screens. I have a side question myself. Cisco changed their specialist program, so that now apparently there isn't a Firewall Specialist, VPN Specialist, and IDS Specialist, but rather just one Security Specialist. So does that mean that I can't use the "VPN Specialist" designation anymore and have to wait until I pass all of the tests? What about that INFOSEC designation, is that still valid? Perhaps I should just login to the new Certifications Community site and check there. http://forums.cisco.com/eforum/servlet/CertCom?page=main Fred Reimer - CCNA Eclipsys Corporation, 200 Ashford Center North, Atlanta, GA 30338 Phone: 404-847-5177 Cell: 770-490-3071 Pager: 888-260-2050 NOTICE; This email contains confidential or proprietary information which may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the named recipient(s). If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected the email, please notify the author by replying to this message. If you are not the named recipient, you are not authorized to use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on this email, and should immediately delete it from your computer. -Original Message- From: Truman, Michelle, RTSLS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 9:17 AM To: Reimer, Fred; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: VPN Best Hardware to use? [7:73793] LITTLE OT: [7:73793] Can you comment on that particular Knowledgenet class? I'm signed up to take it in the not too distant future. Thanks, Michelle Michelle Truman CCIE # 8098 Principal Technical Consultant AT&T Solutions Center mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: 651-998-0949 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=73919&t=73919 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
