Re: HDLC, SDLC...

2000-09-06 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Another thing to keep in mind is that Cisco does not use a standard HDLC 
header. That's why PPP is recommended for interoperability with non-Cisco 
devices. Cisco doesn't take advantage of any of the reliability features of 
standard HDLC, and Cisco added a field to the header to identify the next 
layer up, such as IP, DDP, DECnet, etc.

Cisco's HDLC has been discussed many times on this list, so check the 
archives for more details.

Priscilla


At 05:34 AM 9/6/00, michael champion wrote:
>They are all based on the original work done by IBM for SDLC. SDLC uses a
>complicated master-slave scheme that is not used in the other protocols.
>However, the fields in all of the frames of the protocols mentioned were
>basically derived from a special case of the SDLC protocol.
>
>Regards,
>MLC
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> >
> > Can someone help me?
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> > Thank you, cvp.
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Re: HDLC, SDLC...

2000-09-06 Thread Karen . Young


These are all Layer 2 protocols. This site has some very good explanations
of the differences.
 http://www.sangoma.com/tutorial.htm


LLC2 = IEEE 802.2 Logical Link Control Type 2. Used by SNA and NetBIOS on a
LAN.
 Frame Format: http://www.protocols.com/pbook/lan.htm#LLC

LAPD = Access protocol on ISDN D channel. Ensures error free transmission.
 Frame Format: http://www.protocols.com/pbook/isdn.htm#LAPD

HDLC = Sets the framing structure for synchronous communications and is
responsible for the error-free movement of data between network nodes.
There are two different implementations of HDLC, HDLC NRM (also known as
SDLC) and HDLC LAPB. NRM is MAster/slave. LAPB is peer-to-peer.
 Frame Format: http://www.protocols.com/pbook/x25.htm#HDLC

LAPB = CCITT adaptation of HDLC. Used to carry X.25 commands and control
frames. Supports full-duplex operations and is peer-to-peer (neither end
plays the role of master on a permanent basis).
 Frame Format: http://www.protocols.com/pbook/x25.htm#LAPB

SDLC = Developed by IBM. Performes the layer 2 functions of the SNA
hierarchy. SDLC is virtually identical to HDLC Normal Response Mode and was
developed to replace the Bisynchronous protocol for WAN connections between
IBM equipment. Primarily half-duplex but is capable of supporting
full-duplex. Not a peer-to-peer protocol like HDLC/LAPB, X.25, and
Frame-Relay.
 Frame Format: http://www.protocols.com/pbook/sna.htm#SDLC



Nope this helps,

Karen E Young
Network Engineer
ELF Technologies, Inc
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Dear all,

I am a little bit confused about the difference of
framing between hdlc, sdlc, lapb, lapd, llc2.

Can someone help me?

Thank you, cvp.



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Re: HDLC, SDLC...

2000-09-06 Thread michael champion

They are all based on the original work done by IBM for SDLC. SDLC uses a
complicated master-slave scheme that is not used in the other protocols.
However, the fields in all of the frames of the protocols mentioned were
basically derived from a special case of the SDLC protocol.

Regards,
MLC

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> Dear all,
>
> I am a little bit confused about the difference of
> framing between hdlc, sdlc, lapb, lapd, llc2.
>
> Can someone help me?
>
> Thank you, cvp.
>
>
>
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RE: HDLC, SDLC...

2000-09-06 Thread Yee, Jason

I can explain the first three  protocols namely hdlc, sdlc, lapb

First of all they are all WAN protocols, which is layer 2 protocol for
communicating across a WAN link, which protocol to use depends on two
factors the WAN technology that you use and the communicating equipment 


HDLC stands for High-level Data link Control which is the default
encapsulation type on point-to-point , dedicated links. It is used typically
when communicating bet two CISCO devices. It is a bit oriented synchronous
data link layer protocol.HDLC specifies a data encapsulation method on
synchronous serial links using frame characters and checksums. If
communicating with a non-Cisco device , synchronous PPP is a more viable
option

SDLC stands for Serial Data Link Control use mainly for SNA networks

and lapb Link Access Procedure, Balanced is for X.25 links


Jason

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Dear all,

I am a little bit confused about the difference of
framing between hdlc, sdlc, lapb, lapd, llc2.

Can someone help me?

Thank you, cvp.



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HDLC, SDLC...

2000-09-05 Thread perez claude-vincent

Dear all,

I am a little bit confused about the difference of
framing between hdlc, sdlc, lapb, lapd, llc2.

Can someone help me?

Thank you, cvp.



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