Ip precedence of GRE packets [7:19125]

2001-09-08 Thread Chris Read

Is it possible to cause the IP precedence of a GRE packet to be the same as
the IP precedence of the packet which it encapsulates?

I have a client who is passing real-time as well as normal data over a 3DES
encrypted tunnel. I have had to resort to using separate
tunnels for the two data streams, but I consider this to be a sub-optimal
solution.

For reference, I am using a 2621 at one end and a 3640 at the other with
12.1.5 images.

This is a real world problem for me. Would this kind of thing possibly come
up on the CCIE R/S exams?

Chris Read




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Re: Ip precedence of GRE packets [7:19125]

2001-09-08 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

Is it possible to cause the IP precedence of a GRE packet to be the same as
the IP precedence of the packet which it encapsulates?

A very interesting problem. Without researching it, I'd be inclined 
to say no on a Cisco router, unless you terminate the tunnel at each 
router hop, and then set precedence with a route map as you 
re-encapsulate it.  In formal terms, you have to define the desired 
per-hop behavior (PHB) at each hop rather than end-to-end.

There might be a really kludgy way to do it with BGP QoS Policy 
Propagation, if the destination addresses were different.

You MIGHT be able to do it on a Bay/Nortel RS router, because it does 
allow the equivalent of access lists on pure byte strings. I _think_ 
the string match is long enough to reach the second IP header.  Even 
if I could, I don't think I would.


I have a client who is passing real-time as well as normal data over a 3DES
encrypted tunnel. I have had to resort to using separate
tunnels for the two data streams, but I consider this to be a sub-optimal
solution.

But here's where I start to question.  Why do you consider two 
tunnels to be suboptimal?  I'd say the general consensus among MPLS 
traffic engineering people is to associate a priority with a tunnel, 
merge different flows of the same priority onto what is now called a 
traffic trunk, then put the multipriority traffic back together at 
the egress.  It's MUCH easier to do traffic engineering when the 
tunnel/trunk has a single priority.  Remember that traffic 
engineering implies the reservation of bandwidth.


For reference, I am using a 2621 at one end and a 3640 at the other with
12.1.5 images.

This is a real world problem for me. Would this kind of thing possibly come
up on the CCIE R/S exams?

Chris Read




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Re: Ip precedence of GRE packets [7:19125]

2001-09-08 Thread Sasa Milic

Chris,

I've tested that 4-5 months ago, on 2621 with 12.1T. TOS field is
propagated from encapsulated packets into TOS of GRE packets. The
same happens with IPSec tunnels; TOS from encrypted packets is
copied into IPSec headers.

Regards,
  Sasa

Chris Read wrote:
 
 Is it possible to cause the IP precedence of a GRE packet to be the same as
 the IP precedence of the packet which it encapsulates?




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Re: Ip precedence of GRE packets [7:19125]

2001-09-08 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

I think it is possible to have the GRE tunnel packets have the same IP 
precedence (or DSCP) as the encapsulated packets. I happened to run into a 
document that talked about this for VPNs that are built on GRE tunnels.

Check this out:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/iosw/iore/iomjre12/prodlit/816_pb.htm

Search for GRE Precedence in that document. It might do what you're talking 
about.

I think there are some other documents that discuss this also if you search 
at Cisco's site for IP Precedence or DSCP.

Priscilla

At 01:54 PM 9/8/01, Chris Read wrote:
Is it possible to cause the IP precedence of a GRE packet to be the same as
the IP precedence of the packet which it encapsulates?

I have a client who is passing real-time as well as normal data over a 3DES
encrypted tunnel. I have had to resort to using separate
tunnels for the two data streams, but I consider this to be a sub-optimal
solution.

For reference, I am using a 2621 at one end and a 3640 at the other with
12.1.5 images.

This is a real world problem for me. Would this kind of thing possibly come
up on the CCIE R/S exams?

Chris Read


Priscilla Oppenheimer
http://www.priscilla.com




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