Network Protocol Map [7:63424]

2003-02-20 Thread Peter P
Does anyone have or know of a site with a network protocol map / chart (that
I can print out). I am after a kind of wall chart that shows where protocols
fit within 7 layer OSI model. I do not want to have pay anything,
preferabbly. (Thanks in advance).




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RE: Network Protocol Map [7:63424]

2003-02-20 Thread Arcibal Jr, Mario
Try, http://www.sniffer.com/, then select "Free Protocol Poster" from the
"Quick Links" pull down menu.

Hope that helps.



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Does anyone have or know of a site with a network protocol map / chart (that
I can print out). I am after a kind of wall chart that shows where protocols
fit within 7 layer OSI model. I do not want to have pay anything,
preferabbly. (Thanks in advance).




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RE: Network Protocol Map [7:63424]

2003-02-20 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 7:00 PM + 2/20/03, Arcibal Jr, Mario wrote:
>Try, http://www.sniffer.com/, then select "Free Protocol Poster" from the
>"Quick Links" pull down menu.
>
>Hope that helps.




I would urge anyone getting the average OSI poster to revise it to 
reflect developments in protocol architecture since 1984, the year 
the original model was standardized.  I've long believed that a 
substantial part of the questions about protocols on this list, 
especially at the CCNA level, would go away if people understood the 
strict seven layer model is obsolete.

At a very minimum, draw your seven horizontal layers, and divide them 
into three columns:  control, user information transfer, and 
management. Control protocols are essentially local, such as IGMP or 
ARP. They also manage the edge aspects of connection requests and 
teardowns.

(Layer*) management protocols run among internal elements of the 
network, such as routing protocols, RSVP and HSRP.  Note that RSVP 
can have both control and management aspects, although at some point 
of scaling, it's going to become RSVP-TE and presumably manage 
(G)MPLS.

Differentiate between layer management that operates autonomously to 
support protocols at a given layer, and system management at layer 7 
(e.g., SNMP). Typical layer management for the network layer (again 
remembering that IP protocols were NOT developed to be consistent 
with the OSI model) include ICMP, IGMP, ARP, etc.

You may then want to look at the more modern ISO OSI concepts of 
"Internal Organization of the Network Layer", which really clears up 
a lot of concepts that are very confusing in L2/L3*.  IEEE also has 
architecture that clears up L1/L2 relationships.  Both use 
sublayering.

For example,

 Transmission-technology-independent  IP
 Mapping to transmission technology   ARP
 Transmission technology abstraction  LLC (and WAN variants)
 Transmission technology framing**MAC, FR, ATM AAL
 Physical medium independent  802.3, DS1, etc. 
waveforms & timing
 Physical layer internal interfaceAUI
 Physical medium dependent10Base5, 10Base2, 10BaseT...

* You can have recursion at any of these levels, such as the LANE stack of
IP/IP ARP/LLC/MAC/LANE ARP,etc./AAL...

** Essentially the variable length frame and medium access control 
functions. Think AAL versus ATM.


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>Does anyone have or know of a site with a network protocol map / chart (that
>I can print out). I am after a kind of wall chart that shows where protocols
>fit within 7 layer OSI model. I do not want to have pay anything,
>preferabbly. (Thanks in advance).




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