Network design product selecion question [7:65564]
Hi All, once again, I am back designing a network for my company (scary). The budget I have been given from my manager, would not pay for a family visit to McDonalds. However, this is the requirment (my product selection is below) * Provide up to 200 ports on the floor * 2 level building, with multi-mode fibre between level 1 & 2 * Level 1, has 70 users, 30 servers * Level 2 has 60 users * 2 subnets will be used in this office I suggested, that we use a single 4003 as the core, purchase a Sup III, 1 x 8 port GBIC module, 1 x 48 port 10/100/1000 module. We then use the GBIC's to extend to the 2 x 2950's on the floor above, and 2 x copper GBIC's to the 2950's on the same floor as the core switch. This solution, worked out to be around $100K AUD (australian $$). This was seen as far to expensive. Is there any other model of Cisco catalyst switch that can perform layer 3 routing, GBIC between floors and etc that could do the job of the 4003/4006 ? Or is there a better way of doing it ? John Sydney Australia ** visit http://www.solution6.com UK Customers - http://www.solution6.co.uk ** Level 14, 383 Kent Street, Sydney NSW 2000. General Phone: 61 2 9278 0666 General Fax: 61 2 9278 0555 ** This email message (and attachments) may contain information that is confidential to Solution 6. If you are not the intended recipient you cannot use, distribute or copy the message or attachments. In such a case, please notify the sender by return email immediately and erase all copies of the message and attachments. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message and attachments that do not relate to the official business of Solution 6 are neither given nor endorsed by it. * Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=65564&t=65564 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Network design product selecion question [7:65564]
Hi All, once again, I am back designing a network for my company (scary). The budget I have been given from my manager, would not pay for a family visit to McDonalds. However, this is the requirment (my product selection is below) * Provide up to 200 ports on the floor * 2 level building, with multi-mode fibre between level 1 & 2 * Level 1, has 70 users, 30 servers * Level 2 has 60 users * 2 subnets will be used in this office I suggested, that we use a single 4003 as the core, purchase a Sup III, 1 x 8 port GBIC module, 1 x 48 port 10/100/1000 module. We then use the GBIC's to extend to the 2 x 2950's on the floor above, and 2 x copper GBIC's to the 2950's on the same floor as the core switch. This solution, worked out to be around $100K AUD (australian $$). This was seen as far to expensive. Is there any other model of Cisco catalyst switch that can perform layer 3 routing, GBIC between floors and etc that could do the job of the 4003/4006 ? Or is there a better way of doing it ? John Sydney Australia ** visit http://www.solution6.com UK Customers - http://www.solution6.co.uk ** Level 14, 383 Kent Street, Sydney NSW 2000. General Phone: 61 2 9278 0666 General Fax: 61 2 9278 0555 ** This email message (and attachments) may contain information that is confidential to Solution 6. If you are not the intended recipient you cannot use, distribute or copy the message or attachments. In such a case, please notify the sender by return email immediately and erase all copies of the message and attachments. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message and attachments that do not relate to the official business of Solution 6 are neither given nor endorsed by it. * Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=65888&t=65564 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Network design product selecion question [7:65564]
Hi John, I designed and evolved a network on the same sort of basis over time. It started out with 2 3548 switches, then we added another (all daisychained via fibre) then when another was added I recommended they put in a 3550-12G to act as a core, they did this, and have added more switches to it over time. They have now plugged 5 switches in to the core, each with two uplinks in an etherchannel port group. If they need to add another switch (unlikely), I will suggest that they buy another 3550-12g and have redundancy in the core (one fibre pair from each access layer switch into each core switch). This also gives them the capability to plug another 5 switches in to the core. At the moment, if the core switch failed, all the other switches could be daisy chained off each other, so (IMHO) it is a good design fit for purpose. The 3550-12G has L3 capability, and is reasonably priced, although, unless there is some security or political reason, I wouldn't personally introduce VLAN's into your topology, not for 130 users. Having a look at some numbers (in the UK), I get an option that you could follow (making lots of assumptions about your requirements): All 3550 1 x 3550-12G 5 x 3550-48 (SMI software) 20 x GBICS Total, about $57,000 AUD, plus fibre patch cables, racking etc. Using 2950's didn't make it much cheaper. Symon -Original Message- From: John Brandis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 March 2003 03:13 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Network design product selecion question [7:65564] Hi All, once again, I am back designing a network for my company (scary). The budget I have been given from my manager, would not pay for a family visit to McDonalds. However, this is the requirment (my product selection is below) * Provide up to 200 ports on the floor * 2 level building, with multi-mode fibre between level 1 & 2 * Level 1, has 70 users, 30 servers * Level 2 has 60 users * 2 subnets will be used in this office I suggested, that we use a single 4003 as the core, purchase a Sup III, 1 x 8 port GBIC module, 1 x 48 port 10/100/1000 module. We then use the GBIC's to extend to the 2 x 2950's on the floor above, and 2 x copper GBIC's to the 2950's on the same floor as the core switch. This solution, worked out to be around $100K AUD (australian $$). This was seen as far to expensive. Is there any other model of Cisco catalyst switch that can perform layer 3 routing, GBIC between floors and etc that could do the job of the 4003/4006 ? Or is there a better way of doing it ? John Sydney Australia ** visit http://www.solution6.com UK Customers - http://www.solution6.co.uk ** Level 14, 383 Kent Street, Sydney NSW 2000. General Phone: 61 2 9278 0666 General Fax: 61 2 9278 0555 ** This email message (and attachments) may contain information that is confidential to Solution 6. If you are not the intended recipient you cannot use, distribute or copy the message or attachments. In such a case, please notify the sender by return email immediately and erase all copies of the message and attachments. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message and attachments that do not relate to the official business of Solution 6 are neither given nor endorsed by it. * = This email has been content filtered and subject to spam filtering. If you consider this email is unsolicited please forward the email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and request that the sender's domain be blocked from sending any further emails. = = Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=65579&t=65564 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Network design product selecion question [7:65564]
yes... ebay.com :) -Original Message- From: John Brandis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 5:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Network design product selecion question [7:65564] Hi All, once again, I am back designing a network for my company (scary). The budget I have been given from my manager, would not pay for a family visit to McDonalds. However, this is the requirment (my product selection is below) * Provide up to 200 ports on the floor * 2 level building, with multi-mode fibre between level 1 & 2 * Level 1, has 70 users, 30 servers * Level 2 has 60 users * 2 subnets will be used in this office I suggested, that we use a single 4003 as the core, purchase a Sup III, 1 x 8 port GBIC module, 1 x 48 port 10/100/1000 module. We then use the GBIC's to extend to the 2 x 2950's on the floor above, and 2 x copper GBIC's to the 2950's on the same floor as the core switch. This solution, worked out to be around $100K AUD (australian $$). This was seen as far to expensive. Is there any other model of Cisco catalyst switch that can perform layer 3 routing, GBIC between floors and etc that could do the job of the 4003/4006 ? Or is there a better way of doing it ? John Sydney Australia ** visit http://www.solution6.com UK Customers - http://www.solution6.co.uk ** Level 14, 383 Kent Street, Sydney NSW 2000. General Phone: 61 2 9278 0666 General Fax: 61 2 9278 0555 ** This email message (and attachments) may contain information that is confidential to Solution 6. If you are not the intended recipient you cannot use, distribute or copy the message or attachments. In such a case, please notify the sender by return email immediately and erase all copies of the message and attachments. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message and attachments that do not relate to the official business of Solution 6 are neither given nor endorsed by it. * Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=65578&t=65564 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Network design product selecion question [7:65564]
If you are really serious about your budget being small, then perhaps an old Cat 5000 or 5500 or two, with a RSM in one of them to deal with VLANs if you really insist on having VLANs for so few users. People are giving the things away these days. Okay, you guys, you can stop laughing now. Best regards, Tom Larus, CCIE #10,014 "John Brandis"" wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hi All, > > once again, I am back designing a network for my company (scary). > > The budget I have been given from my manager, would not pay for a family > visit to McDonalds. > > However, this is the requirment (my product selection is below) > > * Provide up to 200 ports on the floor > * 2 level building, with multi-mode fibre between level 1 & 2 > * Level 1, has 70 users, 30 servers > * Level 2 has 60 users > * 2 subnets will be used in this office > > I suggested, that we use a single 4003 as the core, purchase a Sup III, 1 x > 8 port GBIC module, 1 x 48 port 10/100/1000 module. We then use the GBIC's > to extend to the 2 x 2950's on the floor above, and 2 x copper GBIC's to the > 2950's on the same floor as the core switch. This solution, worked out to be > around $100K AUD (australian $$). This was seen as far to expensive. > > Is there any other model of Cisco catalyst switch that can perform layer 3 > routing, GBIC between floors and etc that could do the job of the 4003/4006 > ? Or is there a better way of doing it ? > > John > Sydney Australia > > > ** > > visit http://www.solution6.com > > UK Customers - http://www.solution6.co.uk > > ** > > Level 14, 383 Kent Street, Sydney NSW 2000. > > General Phone: 61 2 9278 0666 > > General Fax: 61 2 9278 0555 > > ** > > This email message (and attachments) may contain information that is > confidential to Solution 6. If you are not the intended recipient you cannot > use, distribute or copy the message or attachments. In such a case, please > notify the sender by return email immediately and erase all copies of the > message and attachments. Opinions, conclusions and other information in > this message and attachments that do not relate to the official business of > Solution 6 are neither given nor endorsed by it. > > * Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=65587&t=65564 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Network design product selecion question [7:65564]
I'll assume that you have reviewed "Top Down Network Design" and have mapped your data flows. Do you need the bandwidth provided by the equipment that you have listed? Any thoughts about Jurassic networking - used older gear? 3524XL switches etc. > -Original Message- > From: John Brandis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 5:44 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Network design product selecion question [7:65564] > > > Hi All, > > once again, I am back designing a network for my company (scary). > > The budget I have been given from my manager, would not pay > for a family > visit to McDonalds. > > However, this is the requirment (my product selection is below) > > * Provide up to 200 ports on the floor > * 2 level building, with multi-mode fibre between level 1 & 2 > * Level 1, has 70 users, 30 servers > * Level 2 has 60 users > * 2 subnets will be used in this office > > I suggested, that we use a single 4003 as the core, purchase > a Sup III, 1 x > 8 port GBIC module, 1 x 48 port 10/100/1000 module. We then > use the GBIC's > to extend to the 2 x 2950's on the floor above, and 2 x > copper GBIC's to the > 2950's on the same floor as the core switch. This solution, > worked out to be > around $100K AUD (australian $$). This was seen as far to expensive. > > Is there any other model of Cisco catalyst switch that can > perform layer 3 > routing, GBIC between floors and etc that could do the job of > the 4003/4006 > ? Or is there a better way of doing it ? > > John > Sydney Australia > > > ** > > visit http://www.solution6.com > > UK Customers - http://www.solution6.co.uk > > ** > > Level 14, 383 Kent Street, Sydney NSW 2000. > > General Phone: 61 2 9278 0666 > > General Fax: 61 2 9278 0555 > > ** > > This email message (and attachments) may contain information that is > confidential to Solution 6. If you are not the intended > recipient you cannot > use, distribute or copy the message or attachments. In such > a case, please > notify the sender by return email immediately and erase all > copies of the > message and attachments. Opinions, conclusions and other > information in > this message and attachments that do not relate to the > official business of > Solution 6 are neither given nor endorsed by it. > > * Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=65900&t=65564 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
