Novell Encapsulations and Cat 5000 [7:17233]

2001-08-25 Thread Hunt Lee

It would be very great if someone can shed some light on this.  It's a
little bit off topic but thanks  :)   Firstly, what is the difference
between the following Novell encapsulation types - Arpa, Sap,
Novell-Ether and Snap? Do they have different fields in them (for
instance, if analyzed with a Protocol Analyzer), and are they all for
Ethernet?

Secondly, whereabout can I find out more troubleshooting info. on a Cat
5000 - in particular, the LEDs (the green, orange and red lights).

Thanks again.

Regards,
Hunt Lee
IP Solution Analyst
Cable and Wireless




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Re: Novell Encapsulations and Cat 5000 [7:17233]

2001-08-25 Thread Mike Mandulak

Hunt if you did a yahoo search on +snap +ethernet +sap you would find the
following link.

http://osr5doc.sco.com:457/NetConfigG/configparamsC.framing_type.html

Not trying to be harsh here but being able to quickly look up readily
available information is a key part of becoming a good engineer.

- Original Message -
From: "Hunt Lee" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 6:11 AM
Subject: Novell Encapsulations and Cat 5000 [7:17233]


> It would be very great if someone can shed some light on this.  It's a
> little bit off topic but thanks  :)   Firstly, what is the difference
> between the following Novell encapsulation types - Arpa, Sap,
> Novell-Ether and Snap? Do they have different fields in them (for
> instance, if analyzed with a Protocol Analyzer), and are they all for
> Ethernet?
>
> Secondly, whereabout can I find out more troubleshooting info. on a Cat
> 5000 - in particular, the LEDs (the green, orange and red lights).
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Regards,
> Hunt Lee
> IP Solution Analyst
> Cable and Wireless




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Re: Novell Encapsulations and Cat 5000 [7:17233]

2001-08-25 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Don't use that reference. It's full of mistakes. It claims that an LLC SAP 
is Service Advertising Protocol. It puts the first two bytes of a Novell 
IPX network-layer header with 802.3. And so on.

I wrote extensively about Ethernet frame types in my Troubleshooting 
Ethernet Networks study guide at www.certificationzone.com.

Cisco has some good references on the subject also.

The CIT class and Cisco Press CIT book do a good job with it. They also 
have a bunch of info about your other question, troubleshooting Cat 5000.

Priscilla

At 11:57 AM 8/25/01, Mike Mandulak wrote:
>Hunt if you did a yahoo search on +snap +ethernet +sap you would find the
>following link.
>
>http://osr5doc.sco.com:457/NetConfigG/configparamsC.framing_type.html
>
>Not trying to be harsh here but being able to quickly look up readily
>available information is a key part of becoming a good engineer.
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Hunt Lee"
>To:
>Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 6:11 AM
>Subject: Novell Encapsulations and Cat 5000 [7:17233]
>
>
> > It would be very great if someone can shed some light on this.  It's a
> > little bit off topic but thanks  :)   Firstly, what is the difference
> > between the following Novell encapsulation types - Arpa, Sap,
> > Novell-Ether and Snap? Do they have different fields in them (for
> > instance, if analyzed with a Protocol Analyzer), and are they all for
> > Ethernet?
> >
> > Secondly, whereabout can I find out more troubleshooting info. on a Cat
> > 5000 - in particular, the LEDs (the green, orange and red lights).
> >
> > Thanks again.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Hunt Lee
> > IP Solution Analyst
> > Cable and Wireless


Priscilla Oppenheimer
http://www.priscilla.com




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Fw: Novell Encapsulations and Cat 5000 [7:17233]

2001-08-25 Thread Mike Mandulak

Shoot I did it again. I did a reply instead of reply to all (as is proper on
most lists). Who is the list owner here?

- Original Message -
From: "Mike Mandulak" 
To: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" 
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: Novell Encapsulations and Cat 5000 [7:17233]


> Hmmph... Then I stand corrected on a couple of points here, the obvious
> reference to incorrect info and more importantly for being critical of
Hunt
> for asking.
>
> I must admit that I don't know all that much about Netware protocols as
much
> of my time has been in Banyan (sigh),  MS and big iron shops.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 5:20 PM
> Subject: Re: Novell Encapsulations and Cat 5000 [7:17233]
>
>
> > Don't use that reference. It's full of mistakes. It claims that an LLC
SAP
> > is Service Advertising Protocol. It puts the first two bytes of a Novell
> > IPX network-layer header with 802.3. And so on.
> >
> > I wrote extensively about Ethernet frame types in my Troubleshooting
> > Ethernet Networks study guide at www.certificationzone.com.
> >
> > Cisco has some good references on the subject also.
> >
> > The CIT class and Cisco Press CIT book do a good job with it. They also
> > have a bunch of info about your other question, troubleshooting Cat
5000.
> >
> > Priscilla
> >
> > At 11:57 AM 8/25/01, Mike Mandulak wrote:
> > >Hunt if you did a yahoo search on +snap +ethernet +sap you would find
the
> > >following link.
> > >
> > >http://osr5doc.sco.com:457/NetConfigG/configparamsC.framing_type.html
> > >
> > >Not trying to be harsh here but being able to quickly look up readily
> > >available information is a key part of becoming a good engineer.
> > >
> > >- Original Message -
> > >From: "Hunt Lee"
> > >To:
> > >Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 6:11 AM
> > >Subject: Novell Encapsulations and Cat 5000 [7:17233]
> > >
> > >
> > > > It would be very great if someone can shed some light on this.  It's
a
> > > > little bit off topic but thanks  :)   Firstly, what is the
difference
> > > > between the following Novell encapsulation types - Arpa, Sap,
> > > > Novell-Ether and Snap? Do they have different fields in them (for
> > > > instance, if analyzed with a Protocol Analyzer), and are they all
for
> > > > Ethernet?
> > > >
> > > > Secondly, whereabout can I find out more troubleshooting info. on a
> Cat
> > > > 5000 - in particular, the LEDs (the green, orange and red lights).
> > > >
> > > > Thanks again.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Hunt Lee
> > > > IP Solution Analyst
> > > > Cable and Wireless
> > 
> >
> > Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > http://www.priscilla.com




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Re: Novell Encapsulations and Cat 5000 [7:17233]

2001-08-26 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

I think it's wise to tell people to search, but of course, on the Internet, 
it's also risky because there's so much bad stuff out there.

Cisco's documentation is usually quite good, so recommending searching 
their site works. They have a good article on Ethernet frame types. I don't 
remember the URL though.

Talk to you later,

Priscilla

At 05:51 PM 8/25/01, you wrote:
>Hmmph... Then I stand corrected on a couple of points here, the obvious
>reference to incorrect info and more importantly for being critical of Hunt
>for asking.
>
>I must admit that I don't know all that much about Netware protocols as much
>of my time has been in Banyan (sigh),  MS and big iron shops.
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" 
>To: 
>Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 5:20 PM
>Subject: Re: Novell Encapsulations and Cat 5000 [7:17233]
>
>
> > Don't use that reference. It's full of mistakes. It claims that an LLC
SAP
> > is Service Advertising Protocol. It puts the first two bytes of a Novell
> > IPX network-layer header with 802.3. And so on.
> >
> > I wrote extensively about Ethernet frame types in my Troubleshooting
> > Ethernet Networks study guide at www.certificationzone.com.
> >
> > Cisco has some good references on the subject also.
> >
> > The CIT class and Cisco Press CIT book do a good job with it. They also
> > have a bunch of info about your other question, troubleshooting Cat 5000.
> >
> > Priscilla
> >
> > At 11:57 AM 8/25/01, Mike Mandulak wrote:
> > >Hunt if you did a yahoo search on +snap +ethernet +sap you would find
the
> > >following link.
> > >
> > >http://osr5doc.sco.com:457/NetConfigG/configparamsC.framing_type.html
> > >
> > >Not trying to be harsh here but being able to quickly look up readily
> > >available information is a key part of becoming a good engineer.
> > >
> > >- Original Message -
> > >From: "Hunt Lee"
> > >To:
> > >Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 6:11 AM
> > >Subject: Novell Encapsulations and Cat 5000 [7:17233]
> > >
> > >
> > > > It would be very great if someone can shed some light on this.  It's
a
> > > > little bit off topic but thanks  :)   Firstly, what is the difference
> > > > between the following Novell encapsulation types - Arpa, Sap,
> > > > Novell-Ether and Snap? Do they have different fields in them (for
> > > > instance, if analyzed with a Protocol Analyzer), and are they all for
> > > > Ethernet?
> > > >
> > > > Secondly, whereabout can I find out more troubleshooting info. on a
>Cat
> > > > 5000 - in particular, the LEDs (the green, orange and red lights).
> > > >
> > > > Thanks again.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Hunt Lee
> > > > IP Solution Analyst
> > > > Cable and Wireless
> > 
> >
> > Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > http://www.priscilla.com


Priscilla Oppenheimer
http://www.priscilla.com




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