Re: ODR, was RE: CCDA: changes in syllabus. [7:72380]

2003-07-21 Thread Tom Martin
John,

I have come across ODR in production a couple of times. Up until 
recently I had thought that ODR worked quite well for hub and spoke 
topologies...

My most recent involvement with ODR occurred when replacing a 2621 with 
a 3745, which was the hub of the hub-and-spoke topology. I quickly 
learned that the 3745 doesn't enable CDP by default. I was also reminded 
that Cisco doesn't save configuration commands that are considered 
default...

What ended up happening was CDP was not enabled by default and when I 
enabled it (cdp run) the command wouldn't save because it was 
considered a default command! Each time the router booted CDP was 
disabled again!

I recommend to everyone that ODR not be used in a Cisco production 
environment. You never know when an IOS (platform?) bug will render your 
WAN unusable!

- Tom

John Neiberger wrote:
 
 
 I've never heard of anyone using ODR. Anyone here know of anyone using ODR
 in a production environment? Are there any environments where ODR is
 recommended over other options?
 
 John




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Re: ODR, was RE: CCDA: changes in syllabus. [7:72380]

2003-07-21 Thread John Neiberger
In addition to that, how many times have you heard that we should disable
CDP for security reasons? I'm sure there are some companies that aren't
allowed to run CDP for this reason. Then again, that's usually a big company
that probably wouldn't want to run ODR in the first place.

John

 Tom Martin 7/21/03 10:05:02 AM 
John,

I have come across ODR in production a couple of times. Up until 
recently I had thought that ODR worked quite well for hub and spoke 
topologies...

My most recent involvement with ODR occurred when replacing a 2621 with 
a 3745, which was the hub of the hub-and-spoke topology. I quickly 
learned that the 3745 doesn't enable CDP by default. I was also reminded 
that Cisco doesn't save configuration commands that are considered 
default...

What ended up happening was CDP was not enabled by default and when I 
enabled it (cdp run) the command wouldn't save because it was 
considered a default command! Each time the router booted CDP was 
disabled again!

I recommend to everyone that ODR not be used in a Cisco production 
environment. You never know when an IOS (platform?) bug will render your 
WAN unusable!

- Tom

John Neiberger wrote:
 
 
 I've never heard of anyone using ODR. Anyone here know of anyone using
ODR
 in a production environment? Are there any environments where ODR is
 recommended over other options?
 
 John




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ODR, was RE: CCDA: changes in syllabus. [7:72380]

2003-07-16 Thread John Neiberger
The sixth module is on routing protocols. Top-Down Network Design would
meet
your needs there with a couple exceptions. The new course covers IS-IS and
On Demand Routing (ODR). (Does anyone really use ODR, I wonder??)


I've never heard of anyone using ODR. Anyone here know of anyone using ODR
in a production environment? Are there any environments where ODR is
recommended over other options?

John




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