Re: OT/Look at the requirements of this position!! [7:71173]
.. and Openview and Sniffers and SNA and MVS and Unix and clusters and VAX and Concord and etc... Your probably right about the downsizing, if that's the case I pity the poor soul who takes the 4 jobs. BTDT, they gave me the tee-shirt. - Original Message - From: Priscilla Oppenheimer To: Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 10:47 PM Subject: Re: OT/Look at the requirements of this position!! [7:71173] Mike Mandulak wrote: My read on this job post is that they do know what they need, They want someone cheap who knows NT, Windows 2000, Exchange, Citrix, VPNs, WANs, and Cisco, and has at least 4 years experience running a large WAN. They down-sized and now they think they can find one person to do what was 4 people's jobs. This person has to travel with little notice 50% of the time. In other words, the most obvious qualification this person has to have is desperate need for a job! :-) Priscilla they're looking for someone who is an expert in NT, Exchange and Citrix which is deployed at 30 sites in 5 countries and growing. As such they need to be able to add and maintain servers in a WAN environment and understand the implications of running these apps over those links. A CCIE may or may not know said applications in depth enough to maintain or even may not want to maintain them to the degree that is needed. Now if a person were to send a resume that listed MCSE and CCIE on the resume then the only reason that I can see for them not wanting them would be the cost of such a person or lack of knowledge with one of the core requested disiplines. - Original Message - From: Kevin Wigle To: Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 6:37 PM Subject: Re: OT/Look at the requirements of this position [7:71173] or perhaps the opposite. Maybe the HR person is fully aware of what they're asking for. Perhaps a CCIE is over qualified for the position - in their opinion. Kevin Wigle - Original Message - From: Ware, DavidE To: Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 3:38 PM Subject: RE: OT/Look at the requirements of this position [7:71173] Who ever the hiring manager is, he or she lack's an understanding of the progression on Cisco certifications. To say that a CCNP's may be considered, however CCIE's or nearly qualified CCIE's won't be shows a lack of the level of knowledge required to obtain those certifications. Dave David Ware Network Design Engineer Unisys Eagan Service Center, Global Outsourcing 651-687-3108 Net 545-3108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=71219t=71173 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT/Look at the requirements of this position!! [7:71173]
Mike Mandulak wrote: .. and Openview and Sniffers and SNA and MVS and Unix and clusters and VAX and Concord and etc... Your probably right about the downsizing, if that's the case I pity the poor soul who takes the 4 jobs. BTDT, they gave me the tee-shirt. I burned mine, and I ain't goin back Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=71232t=71173 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT/Look at the requirements of this position!!!! [7:71173]
Who ever the hiring manager is, he or she lack's an understanding of the progression on Cisco certifications. To say that a CCNP's may be considered, however CCIE's or nearly qualified CCIE's won't be shows a lack of the level of knowledge required to obtain those certifications. Dave David Ware Network Design Engineer Unisys Eagan Service Center, Global Outsourcing 651-687-3108 Net 545-3108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=71173t=71173 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT/Look at the requirements of this position!!!! [7:71173]
or perhaps the opposite. Maybe the HR person is fully aware of what they're asking for. Perhaps a CCIE is over qualified for the position - in their opinion. Kevin Wigle - Original Message - From: Ware, DavidE To: Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 3:38 PM Subject: RE: OT/Look at the requirements of this position [7:71173] Who ever the hiring manager is, he or she lack's an understanding of the progression on Cisco certifications. To say that a CCNP's may be considered, however CCIE's or nearly qualified CCIE's won't be shows a lack of the level of knowledge required to obtain those certifications. Dave David Ware Network Design Engineer Unisys Eagan Service Center, Global Outsourcing 651-687-3108 Net 545-3108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=71187t=71173 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT/Look at the requirements of this position!! [7:71173]
Hi, That is just what I said in another column: one being overqualified. This is very real for some companies and/or jobs. So, those guys have a point:) Mwalie Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=71205t=71173 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT/Look at the requirements of this position!! [7:71173]
Mike Mandulak wrote: My read on this job post is that they do know what they need, They want someone cheap who knows NT, Windows 2000, Exchange, Citrix, VPNs, WANs, and Cisco, and has at least 4 years experience running a large WAN. They down-sized and now they think they can find one person to do what was 4 people's jobs. This person has to travel with little notice 50% of the time. In other words, the most obvious qualification this person has to have is desperate need for a job! :-) Priscilla they're looking for someone who is an expert in NT, Exchange and Citrix which is deployed at 30 sites in 5 countries and growing. As such they need to be able to add and maintain servers in a WAN environment and understand the implications of running these apps over those links. A CCIE may or may not know said applications in depth enough to maintain or even may not want to maintain them to the degree that is needed. Now if a person were to send a resume that listed MCSE and CCIE on the resume then the only reason that I can see for them not wanting them would be the cost of such a person or lack of knowledge with one of the core requested disiplines. - Original Message - From: Kevin Wigle To: Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 6:37 PM Subject: Re: OT/Look at the requirements of this position [7:71173] or perhaps the opposite. Maybe the HR person is fully aware of what they're asking for. Perhaps a CCIE is over qualified for the position - in their opinion. Kevin Wigle - Original Message - From: Ware, DavidE To: Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 3:38 PM Subject: RE: OT/Look at the requirements of this position [7:71173] Who ever the hiring manager is, he or she lack's an understanding of the progression on Cisco certifications. To say that a CCNP's may be considered, however CCIE's or nearly qualified CCIE's won't be shows a lack of the level of knowledge required to obtain those certifications. Dave David Ware Network Design Engineer Unisys Eagan Service Center, Global Outsourcing 651-687-3108 Net 545-3108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=71209t=71173 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT/Look at the requirements of this position!!!! [7:71173]
My read on this job post is that they do know what they need, they're looking for someone who is an expert in NT, Exchange and Citrix which is deployed at 30 sites in 5 countries and growing. As such they need to be able to add and maintain servers in a WAN environment and understand the implications of running these apps over those links. A CCIE may or may not know said applications in depth enough to maintain or even may not want to maintain them to the degree that is needed. Now if a person were to send a resume that listed MCSE and CCIE on the resume then the only reason that I can see for them not wanting them would be the cost of such a person or lack of knowledge with one of the core requested disiplines. - Original Message - From: Kevin Wigle To: Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 6:37 PM Subject: Re: OT/Look at the requirements of this position [7:71173] or perhaps the opposite. Maybe the HR person is fully aware of what they're asking for. Perhaps a CCIE is over qualified for the position - in their opinion. Kevin Wigle - Original Message - From: Ware, DavidE To: Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 3:38 PM Subject: RE: OT/Look at the requirements of this position [7:71173] Who ever the hiring manager is, he or she lack's an understanding of the progression on Cisco certifications. To say that a CCNP's may be considered, however CCIE's or nearly qualified CCIE's won't be shows a lack of the level of knowledge required to obtain those certifications. Dave David Ware Network Design Engineer Unisys Eagan Service Center, Global Outsourcing 651-687-3108 Net 545-3108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=71208t=71173 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
