Re: Off topic - my first AVVID install [7:56305]

2002-10-25 Thread Steven A. Ridder
I agree that the phone deployment process is monkey work and could be subbed
out for dirt cheap $$, just as long as the unions don't get their hands on
it as they do in the real voice world.

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""The Long and Winding Road""  wrote in
message news:200210251844.SAA20015@;groupstudy.com...
> Someone a lot smarter than I did the intelligent work - i.e. the call plan
> and the server  configuration. I was one of the warm bodies corralled to
do
> installation of the desk sets.
>
> Some idle thoughts.
> ( Mr. RFC 1149 Compliant is free to laugh loudly at me and make
denigrating
> comments :->  )
>
> 1) there is no glamour in deploying IP phones. About the only difference
> between deploying a phone and deploying a computer is that phones are a
LOT
> lighter. However, when deploying phones it's still doubly difficult
because
> you end up having to string the PC cable over to the phone ( to get the in
> line power ) and then the phone cable back to the PC.
>
> 2) I was too old for this kind of work 10 years ago, and I'm definitely
too
> old now. My knees hurt. My back huts. And my head hurts. You folks who
crawl
> around under desks and benches to set things up and cable them know
exactly
> how hard those upper surfaces can be ;->
>
> 3) doing this kind of work during business hours is not a real good idea.
It
> was taking neighborhood 15 minutes per station to get a phone deployed. No
I
> did not have the luxury of setting up several phones in an area. Had to do
> it one at a time because of the physical layouts and the user
requirements.
>
> 4) I was overjoyed to finally figure out that it is a lot faster if some
low
> level ( me ) plugged lots of phones directly into a switch, let them go
> through their download and upgrade shenanigans, then hand them out to a
> couple of folks to deploy. If this is done in advance, the process takes
> only a minute or two to register and go through TAPS
>
> In conclusion, IP telephony intelligence is all in the server, gateway,
and
> router configuration. The phone deployment itself is still monkeywork.
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> www.chuckslongroad.info




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Re: Off topic - my first AVVID install [7:56305]

2002-10-25 Thread Steven A. Ridder
I'm gone for a week, and already I'm being attacked :)

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""The Long and Winding Road""  wrote in
message news:200210251844.SAA20015@;groupstudy.com...
> Someone a lot smarter than I did the intelligent work - i.e. the call plan
> and the server  configuration. I was one of the warm bodies corralled to
do
> installation of the desk sets.
>
> Some idle thoughts.
> ( Mr. RFC 1149 Compliant is free to laugh loudly at me and make
denigrating
> comments :->  )
>
> 1) there is no glamour in deploying IP phones. About the only difference
> between deploying a phone and deploying a computer is that phones are a
LOT
> lighter. However, when deploying phones it's still doubly difficult
because
> you end up having to string the PC cable over to the phone ( to get the in
> line power ) and then the phone cable back to the PC.
>
> 2) I was too old for this kind of work 10 years ago, and I'm definitely
too
> old now. My knees hurt. My back huts. And my head hurts. You folks who
crawl
> around under desks and benches to set things up and cable them know
exactly
> how hard those upper surfaces can be ;->
>
> 3) doing this kind of work during business hours is not a real good idea.
It
> was taking neighborhood 15 minutes per station to get a phone deployed. No
I
> did not have the luxury of setting up several phones in an area. Had to do
> it one at a time because of the physical layouts and the user
requirements.
>
> 4) I was overjoyed to finally figure out that it is a lot faster if some
low
> level ( me ) plugged lots of phones directly into a switch, let them go
> through their download and upgrade shenanigans, then hand them out to a
> couple of folks to deploy. If this is done in advance, the process takes
> only a minute or two to register and go through TAPS
>
> In conclusion, IP telephony intelligence is all in the server, gateway,
and
> router configuration. The phone deployment itself is still monkeywork.
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> www.chuckslongroad.info




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Re: Off topic - my first AVVID install [7:56305]

2002-10-25 Thread The Long and Winding Road
one more thing - I have proof positive that in line power "can" work just
fine over Cat 3

Chuck




""The Long and Winding Road""  wrote in
message news:200210251844.SAA20015@;groupstudy.com...
> Someone a lot smarter than I did the intelligent work - i.e. the call plan
> and the server  configuration. I was one of the warm bodies corralled to
do
> installation of the desk sets.
>
> Some idle thoughts.
> ( Mr. RFC 1149 Compliant is free to laugh loudly at me and make
denigrating
> comments :->  )
>
> 1) there is no glamour in deploying IP phones. About the only difference
> between deploying a phone and deploying a computer is that phones are a
LOT
> lighter. However, when deploying phones it's still doubly difficult
because
> you end up having to string the PC cable over to the phone ( to get the in
> line power ) and then the phone cable back to the PC.
>
> 2) I was too old for this kind of work 10 years ago, and I'm definitely
too
> old now. My knees hurt. My back huts. And my head hurts. You folks who
crawl
> around under desks and benches to set things up and cable them know
exactly
> how hard those upper surfaces can be ;->
>
> 3) doing this kind of work during business hours is not a real good idea.
It
> was taking neighborhood 15 minutes per station to get a phone deployed. No
I
> did not have the luxury of setting up several phones in an area. Had to do
> it one at a time because of the physical layouts and the user
requirements.
>
> 4) I was overjoyed to finally figure out that it is a lot faster if some
low
> level ( me ) plugged lots of phones directly into a switch, let them go
> through their download and upgrade shenanigans, then hand them out to a
> couple of folks to deploy. If this is done in advance, the process takes
> only a minute or two to register and go through TAPS
>
> In conclusion, IP telephony intelligence is all in the server, gateway,
and
> router configuration. The phone deployment itself is still monkeywork.
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> www.chuckslongroad.info




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Off topic - my first AVVID install [7:56305]

2002-10-25 Thread The Long and Winding Road
Someone a lot smarter than I did the intelligent work - i.e. the call plan
and the server  configuration. I was one of the warm bodies corralled to do
installation of the desk sets.

Some idle thoughts.
( Mr. RFC 1149 Compliant is free to laugh loudly at me and make denigrating
comments :->  )

1) there is no glamour in deploying IP phones. About the only difference
between deploying a phone and deploying a computer is that phones are a LOT
lighter. However, when deploying phones it's still doubly difficult because
you end up having to string the PC cable over to the phone ( to get the in
line power ) and then the phone cable back to the PC.

2) I was too old for this kind of work 10 years ago, and I'm definitely too
old now. My knees hurt. My back huts. And my head hurts. You folks who crawl
around under desks and benches to set things up and cable them know exactly
how hard those upper surfaces can be ;->

3) doing this kind of work during business hours is not a real good idea. It
was taking neighborhood 15 minutes per station to get a phone deployed. No I
did not have the luxury of setting up several phones in an area. Had to do
it one at a time because of the physical layouts and the user requirements.

4) I was overjoyed to finally figure out that it is a lot faster if some low
level ( me ) plugged lots of phones directly into a switch, let them go
through their download and upgrade shenanigans, then hand them out to a
couple of folks to deploy. If this is done in advance, the process takes
only a minute or two to register and go through TAPS

In conclusion, IP telephony intelligence is all in the server, gateway, and
router configuration. The phone deployment itself is still monkeywork.




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