Re: Phone line simulator

2001-03-14 Thread Mask Of Zorro


No back-to-back for BRI. You could with a PRI, given the right cable and IOS 
version, but that won't really help you practice for the lab exam.

Z

>From: "The.Rock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "The.Rock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Phone line simulator
>Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 12:24:42 -0600
>
>Instead of buying an ISDN simulator, can you just buy another router with
>ISDN interface and connect them together, or is it not possible? The price
>for the simulator is kinda steep, considering you could just buy another
>router...
>
>"Jim Dixon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>93D78DD50BC5D311B295009027DCF0F11D005B@SAMURAI">news:93D78DD50BC5D311B295009027DCF0F11D005B@SAMURAI...
> > There is a discount listed for Groupstudy members for Teltone ISDN
> > simulator.
> > Check here for details.   Zorro Mentioned the price, this link
> > will give you the contact information as well.
> > http://www.groupstudy.com/discounts/index.html
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mask Of Zorro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 10:06 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Phone line simulator
> >
> >
> > You need ISDN to practice looking at q921 and q931 issues. You will need
>it
> > to practice your multilink ppp bundles... You need to be able to 
>configure
> > switch types, spids, etc. It is not a good idea to get to the lab and 
>see
> > ISDN for the first time.
> >
> > You can practice DDR on the modems, but that is not the same as knowing
> > ISDN.
> >
> > As for simulating Analog Dial, Teltone makes an analog simulator that
>sells
> > used for about $300 - $400. The Teltone ISDN simulator is available from
> > BigD Communications for under $1700. Take a look on Ebay, you'll see 
>that
> > these things sell regularly for that price used. Buy it on a credit 
>card,
> > use it for a few months to practice for the lab, then sell it on Ebay 
>and
> > get all your money back. All you pay is the finance charge to the credit
> > card company for a few months. This is a hell of a lot less than you 
>would
> > pay to rent it for that time period, and considerably less than you 
>would
> > pay to install ISDN in your home.
> >
> > Not to mention that as long as the simulator is not defective, it will
> > always be working when you want to do labs. Try to explain to your 
>telco's
> > tech support that you are trying to do some practice labs and 
>desperately
> > need them to repair your downed ISDN service right away! That's IF they
>even
> >
> > have tech support at midnight, which is when I usually end up doing
>labs...
> >
> > I hope this helps you out.
> >
> > Z
> > >From: "Joe Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: "Joe Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Phone line simulator
> > >Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 23:36:47 +0800
> > >
> > >I am looking for a phone line simulator to do some dial-up practice 
>using
> > >modems. I would appreciate any recommendation of model, price and 
>setup.
> > >And
> > >I wonder a low cost PABX can do the job?
> > >
> > >I ask this because the ISDN simulator is too expensive for me and if I
>use
> > >the modem dial-up for practice, will I lose anything that I can't do?
> > >
> > >Thanks in advance
> >
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Re: Phone line simulator

2001-03-14 Thread The.Rock

Instead of buying an ISDN simulator, can you just buy another router with
ISDN interface and connect them together, or is it not possible? The price
for the simulator is kinda steep, considering you could just buy another
router...

"Jim Dixon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
93D78DD50BC5D311B295009027DCF0F11D005B@SAMURAI">news:93D78DD50BC5D311B295009027DCF0F11D005B@SAMURAI...
> There is a discount listed for Groupstudy members for Teltone ISDN
> simulator.
> Check here for details.   Zorro Mentioned the price, this link
> will give you the contact information as well.
> http://www.groupstudy.com/discounts/index.html
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mask Of Zorro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 10:06 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Phone line simulator
>
>
> You need ISDN to practice looking at q921 and q931 issues. You will need
it
> to practice your multilink ppp bundles... You need to be able to configure
> switch types, spids, etc. It is not a good idea to get to the lab and see
> ISDN for the first time.
>
> You can practice DDR on the modems, but that is not the same as knowing
> ISDN.
>
> As for simulating Analog Dial, Teltone makes an analog simulator that
sells
> used for about $300 - $400. The Teltone ISDN simulator is available from
> BigD Communications for under $1700. Take a look on Ebay, you'll see that
> these things sell regularly for that price used. Buy it on a credit card,
> use it for a few months to practice for the lab, then sell it on Ebay and
> get all your money back. All you pay is the finance charge to the credit
> card company for a few months. This is a hell of a lot less than you would
> pay to rent it for that time period, and considerably less than you would
> pay to install ISDN in your home.
>
> Not to mention that as long as the simulator is not defective, it will
> always be working when you want to do labs. Try to explain to your telco's
> tech support that you are trying to do some practice labs and desperately
> need them to repair your downed ISDN service right away! That's IF they
even
>
> have tech support at midnight, which is when I usually end up doing
labs...
>
> I hope this helps you out.
>
> Z
> >From: "Joe Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Joe Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Phone line simulator
> >Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 23:36:47 +0800
> >
> >I am looking for a phone line simulator to do some dial-up practice using
> >modems. I would appreciate any recommendation of model, price and setup.
> >And
> >I wonder a low cost PABX can do the job?
> >
> >I ask this because the ISDN simulator is too expensive for me and if I
use
> >the modem dial-up for practice, will I lose anything that I can't do?
> >
> >Thanks in advance
>
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RE: Phone line simulator

2001-03-14 Thread Jim Dixon

There is a discount listed for Groupstudy members for Teltone ISDN
simulator.
Check here for details.   Zorro Mentioned the price, this link
will give you the contact information as well.
http://www.groupstudy.com/discounts/index.html

-Original Message-
From: Mask Of Zorro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 10:06 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Phone line simulator


You need ISDN to practice looking at q921 and q931 issues. You will need it 
to practice your multilink ppp bundles... You need to be able to configure 
switch types, spids, etc. It is not a good idea to get to the lab and see 
ISDN for the first time.

You can practice DDR on the modems, but that is not the same as knowing 
ISDN.

As for simulating Analog Dial, Teltone makes an analog simulator that sells 
used for about $300 - $400. The Teltone ISDN simulator is available from 
BigD Communications for under $1700. Take a look on Ebay, you'll see that 
these things sell regularly for that price used. Buy it on a credit card, 
use it for a few months to practice for the lab, then sell it on Ebay and 
get all your money back. All you pay is the finance charge to the credit 
card company for a few months. This is a hell of a lot less than you would 
pay to rent it for that time period, and considerably less than you would 
pay to install ISDN in your home.

Not to mention that as long as the simulator is not defective, it will 
always be working when you want to do labs. Try to explain to your telco's 
tech support that you are trying to do some practice labs and desperately 
need them to repair your downed ISDN service right away! That's IF they even

have tech support at midnight, which is when I usually end up doing labs...

I hope this helps you out.

Z
>From: "Joe Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Joe Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Phone line simulator
>Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 23:36:47 +0800
>
>I am looking for a phone line simulator to do some dial-up practice using
>modems. I would appreciate any recommendation of model, price and setup. 
>And
>I wonder a low cost PABX can do the job?
>
>I ask this because the ISDN simulator is too expensive for me and if I use
>the modem dial-up for practice, will I lose anything that I can't do?
>
>Thanks in advance

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Re: Phone line simulator

2001-03-14 Thread Mask Of Zorro

You need ISDN to practice looking at q921 and q931 issues. You will need it 
to practice your multilink ppp bundles... You need to be able to configure 
switch types, spids, etc. It is not a good idea to get to the lab and see 
ISDN for the first time.

You can practice DDR on the modems, but that is not the same as knowing 
ISDN.

As for simulating Analog Dial, Teltone makes an analog simulator that sells 
used for about $300 - $400. The Teltone ISDN simulator is available from 
BigD Communications for under $1700. Take a look on Ebay, you'll see that 
these things sell regularly for that price used. Buy it on a credit card, 
use it for a few months to practice for the lab, then sell it on Ebay and 
get all your money back. All you pay is the finance charge to the credit 
card company for a few months. This is a hell of a lot less than you would 
pay to rent it for that time period, and considerably less than you would 
pay to install ISDN in your home.

Not to mention that as long as the simulator is not defective, it will 
always be working when you want to do labs. Try to explain to your telco's 
tech support that you are trying to do some practice labs and desperately 
need them to repair your downed ISDN service right away! That's IF they even 
have tech support at midnight, which is when I usually end up doing labs...

I hope this helps you out.

Z



>From: "Joe Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Joe Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Phone line simulator
>Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 23:36:47 +0800
>
>I am looking for a phone line simulator to do some dial-up practice using
>modems. I would appreciate any recommendation of model, price and setup. 
>And
>I wonder a low cost PABX can do the job?
>
>I ask this because the ISDN simulator is too expensive for me and if I use
>the modem dial-up for practice, will I lose anything that I can't do?
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>
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RE: Phone line simulator

2001-03-14 Thread Daniel Cotts

TelTone makes several models. Check eBay for used equipment.

> -Original Message-
> From: Joe Wong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 9:37 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Phone line simulator
> 
> 
> I am looking for a phone line simulator to do some dial-up 
> practice using
> modems. I would appreciate any recommendation of model, price 
> and setup. And
> I wonder a low cost PABX can do the job?
> 
> I ask this because the ISDN simulator is too expensive for me 
> and if I use
> the modem dial-up for practice, will I lose anything that I can't do?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> 
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Phone line simulator

2001-03-14 Thread Joe Wong

I am looking for a phone line simulator to do some dial-up practice using
modems. I would appreciate any recommendation of model, price and setup. And
I wonder a low cost PABX can do the job?

I ask this because the ISDN simulator is too expensive for me and if I use
the modem dial-up for practice, will I lose anything that I can't do?

Thanks in advance


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