Re: Phone line simulator
No back-to-back for BRI. You could with a PRI, given the right cable and IOS version, but that won't really help you practice for the lab exam. Z >From: "The.Rock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "The.Rock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Phone line simulator >Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 12:24:42 -0600 > >Instead of buying an ISDN simulator, can you just buy another router with >ISDN interface and connect them together, or is it not possible? The price >for the simulator is kinda steep, considering you could just buy another >router... > >"Jim Dixon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >93D78DD50BC5D311B295009027DCF0F11D005B@SAMURAI">news:93D78DD50BC5D311B295009027DCF0F11D005B@SAMURAI... > > There is a discount listed for Groupstudy members for Teltone ISDN > > simulator. > > Check here for details. Zorro Mentioned the price, this link > > will give you the contact information as well. > > http://www.groupstudy.com/discounts/index.html > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Mask Of Zorro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 10:06 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Phone line simulator > > > > > > You need ISDN to practice looking at q921 and q931 issues. You will need >it > > to practice your multilink ppp bundles... You need to be able to >configure > > switch types, spids, etc. It is not a good idea to get to the lab and >see > > ISDN for the first time. > > > > You can practice DDR on the modems, but that is not the same as knowing > > ISDN. > > > > As for simulating Analog Dial, Teltone makes an analog simulator that >sells > > used for about $300 - $400. The Teltone ISDN simulator is available from > > BigD Communications for under $1700. Take a look on Ebay, you'll see >that > > these things sell regularly for that price used. Buy it on a credit >card, > > use it for a few months to practice for the lab, then sell it on Ebay >and > > get all your money back. All you pay is the finance charge to the credit > > card company for a few months. This is a hell of a lot less than you >would > > pay to rent it for that time period, and considerably less than you >would > > pay to install ISDN in your home. > > > > Not to mention that as long as the simulator is not defective, it will > > always be working when you want to do labs. Try to explain to your >telco's > > tech support that you are trying to do some practice labs and >desperately > > need them to repair your downed ISDN service right away! That's IF they >even > > > > have tech support at midnight, which is when I usually end up doing >labs... > > > > I hope this helps you out. > > > > Z > > >From: "Joe Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: "Joe Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: Phone line simulator > > >Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 23:36:47 +0800 > > > > > >I am looking for a phone line simulator to do some dial-up practice >using > > >modems. I would appreciate any recommendation of model, price and >setup. > > >And > > >I wonder a low cost PABX can do the job? > > > > > >I ask this because the ISDN simulator is too expensive for me and if I >use > > >the modem dial-up for practice, will I lose anything that I can't do? > > > > > >Thanks in advance > > > > _ > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >_ >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Phone line simulator
Instead of buying an ISDN simulator, can you just buy another router with ISDN interface and connect them together, or is it not possible? The price for the simulator is kinda steep, considering you could just buy another router... "Jim Dixon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 93D78DD50BC5D311B295009027DCF0F11D005B@SAMURAI">news:93D78DD50BC5D311B295009027DCF0F11D005B@SAMURAI... > There is a discount listed for Groupstudy members for Teltone ISDN > simulator. > Check here for details. Zorro Mentioned the price, this link > will give you the contact information as well. > http://www.groupstudy.com/discounts/index.html > > -Original Message- > From: Mask Of Zorro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 10:06 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Phone line simulator > > > You need ISDN to practice looking at q921 and q931 issues. You will need it > to practice your multilink ppp bundles... You need to be able to configure > switch types, spids, etc. It is not a good idea to get to the lab and see > ISDN for the first time. > > You can practice DDR on the modems, but that is not the same as knowing > ISDN. > > As for simulating Analog Dial, Teltone makes an analog simulator that sells > used for about $300 - $400. The Teltone ISDN simulator is available from > BigD Communications for under $1700. Take a look on Ebay, you'll see that > these things sell regularly for that price used. Buy it on a credit card, > use it for a few months to practice for the lab, then sell it on Ebay and > get all your money back. All you pay is the finance charge to the credit > card company for a few months. This is a hell of a lot less than you would > pay to rent it for that time period, and considerably less than you would > pay to install ISDN in your home. > > Not to mention that as long as the simulator is not defective, it will > always be working when you want to do labs. Try to explain to your telco's > tech support that you are trying to do some practice labs and desperately > need them to repair your downed ISDN service right away! That's IF they even > > have tech support at midnight, which is when I usually end up doing labs... > > I hope this helps you out. > > Z > >From: "Joe Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: "Joe Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Phone line simulator > >Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 23:36:47 +0800 > > > >I am looking for a phone line simulator to do some dial-up practice using > >modems. I would appreciate any recommendation of model, price and setup. > >And > >I wonder a low cost PABX can do the job? > > > >I ask this because the ISDN simulator is too expensive for me and if I use > >the modem dial-up for practice, will I lose anything that I can't do? > > > >Thanks in advance > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Phone line simulator
There is a discount listed for Groupstudy members for Teltone ISDN simulator. Check here for details. Zorro Mentioned the price, this link will give you the contact information as well. http://www.groupstudy.com/discounts/index.html -Original Message- From: Mask Of Zorro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 10:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Phone line simulator You need ISDN to practice looking at q921 and q931 issues. You will need it to practice your multilink ppp bundles... You need to be able to configure switch types, spids, etc. It is not a good idea to get to the lab and see ISDN for the first time. You can practice DDR on the modems, but that is not the same as knowing ISDN. As for simulating Analog Dial, Teltone makes an analog simulator that sells used for about $300 - $400. The Teltone ISDN simulator is available from BigD Communications for under $1700. Take a look on Ebay, you'll see that these things sell regularly for that price used. Buy it on a credit card, use it for a few months to practice for the lab, then sell it on Ebay and get all your money back. All you pay is the finance charge to the credit card company for a few months. This is a hell of a lot less than you would pay to rent it for that time period, and considerably less than you would pay to install ISDN in your home. Not to mention that as long as the simulator is not defective, it will always be working when you want to do labs. Try to explain to your telco's tech support that you are trying to do some practice labs and desperately need them to repair your downed ISDN service right away! That's IF they even have tech support at midnight, which is when I usually end up doing labs... I hope this helps you out. Z >From: "Joe Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Joe Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Phone line simulator >Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 23:36:47 +0800 > >I am looking for a phone line simulator to do some dial-up practice using >modems. I would appreciate any recommendation of model, price and setup. >And >I wonder a low cost PABX can do the job? > >I ask this because the ISDN simulator is too expensive for me and if I use >the modem dial-up for practice, will I lose anything that I can't do? > >Thanks in advance _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Phone line simulator
You need ISDN to practice looking at q921 and q931 issues. You will need it to practice your multilink ppp bundles... You need to be able to configure switch types, spids, etc. It is not a good idea to get to the lab and see ISDN for the first time. You can practice DDR on the modems, but that is not the same as knowing ISDN. As for simulating Analog Dial, Teltone makes an analog simulator that sells used for about $300 - $400. The Teltone ISDN simulator is available from BigD Communications for under $1700. Take a look on Ebay, you'll see that these things sell regularly for that price used. Buy it on a credit card, use it for a few months to practice for the lab, then sell it on Ebay and get all your money back. All you pay is the finance charge to the credit card company for a few months. This is a hell of a lot less than you would pay to rent it for that time period, and considerably less than you would pay to install ISDN in your home. Not to mention that as long as the simulator is not defective, it will always be working when you want to do labs. Try to explain to your telco's tech support that you are trying to do some practice labs and desperately need them to repair your downed ISDN service right away! That's IF they even have tech support at midnight, which is when I usually end up doing labs... I hope this helps you out. Z >From: "Joe Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Joe Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Phone line simulator >Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 23:36:47 +0800 > >I am looking for a phone line simulator to do some dial-up practice using >modems. I would appreciate any recommendation of model, price and setup. >And >I wonder a low cost PABX can do the job? > >I ask this because the ISDN simulator is too expensive for me and if I use >the modem dial-up for practice, will I lose anything that I can't do? > >Thanks in advance > > >_ >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Phone line simulator
TelTone makes several models. Check eBay for used equipment. > -Original Message- > From: Joe Wong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 9:37 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Phone line simulator > > > I am looking for a phone line simulator to do some dial-up > practice using > modems. I would appreciate any recommendation of model, price > and setup. And > I wonder a low cost PABX can do the job? > > I ask this because the ISDN simulator is too expensive for me > and if I use > the modem dial-up for practice, will I lose anything that I can't do? > > Thanks in advance > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct > and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone line simulator
I am looking for a phone line simulator to do some dial-up practice using modems. I would appreciate any recommendation of model, price and setup. And I wonder a low cost PABX can do the job? I ask this because the ISDN simulator is too expensive for me and if I use the modem dial-up for practice, will I lose anything that I can't do? Thanks in advance _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]