Re: 2513 to MAU RJ-45 connection? [7:16426]
Hi All, I just cut and paste the following FYI. Actually, there is such an animal as a Token Ring crossover cable. You are correct that you can't use one to "back to back" Token Ring ports. They are used in our environment for a direct station attachment (Cisco router ports) to Bay Networks C100 Tokenspeed switch ports. The RJ-45 pin outs are: 1-->1 2-->2 3-->4 4-->3 5-->6 6-->5 7-->7 8-->8 Hope this help and save some time. anyong ""EA Louie"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Check the archives at www.groupstudy.com for token ring crossover - someone > has a way of doing that and I think they posted the solution back in March > or April of this year. > > - Original Message - > From: Engelhard M. Labiro > To: > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 8:41 PM > Subject: Re: 2513 to MAU RJ-45 connection? [7:16426] > > > > Hi, > > I have 4 2612 (one RJ45 Token Ring I/F), how > > do I connect these routers` Token Ring I/Fs > > back-to-back? > > I tried using a UTP 5 straigh/cross cable but > > the link is down/down state. > > Searching the CCO but only come up connecting > > MAU to RJ-45 as you mention below. > > Any idea ? > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "EA Louie" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 9:04 AM > > Subject: Re: 2513 to MAU RJ-45 connection? [7:16426] > > > > > > > Here are your basic tradeoffs, including cabling, which is probably the > > most > > > crucial aspect of T/R > > > > > > IBM MAU > > > Pro: patch cables easy to find (sometimes free), works well with native > > > (DB-9) T/R connector > > > Con: cabling bulkier (STP), relays tend to stick if MAU is jarred in > > > transit, requires RJ-45 to IBM Data Connector adapter at the MAU side to > > > work with UTP cabling > > > > > > RJ-45 MAU > > > Pro: cabling is normal Cat5 unshielded twisted pair (UTP), works well > > with > > > PC NICs that have an RJ-45 port > > > Con: need media filters to adapt DB-9 (on routers) to RJ-45 > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: chris klebl > > > To: > > > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 4:33 PM > > > Subject: Re: 2513 to MAU RJ-45 connection? [7:16426] > > > > > > > > > > besides cabling, are there any advantages to going with an IBM vs an > > RJ-45 > > > > MAU? > > > _ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > _ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=16443&t=16426 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2513 to MAU RJ-45 connection? [7:16426]
Check the archives at www.groupstudy.com for token ring crossover - someone has a way of doing that and I think they posted the solution back in March or April of this year. - Original Message - From: Engelhard M. Labiro To: Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 8:41 PM Subject: Re: 2513 to MAU RJ-45 connection? [7:16426] > Hi, > I have 4 2612 (one RJ45 Token Ring I/F), how > do I connect these routers` Token Ring I/Fs > back-to-back? > I tried using a UTP 5 straigh/cross cable but > the link is down/down state. > Searching the CCO but only come up connecting > MAU to RJ-45 as you mention below. > Any idea ? > > Thanks, > > > - Original Message - > From: "EA Louie" > To: > Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 9:04 AM > Subject: Re: 2513 to MAU RJ-45 connection? [7:16426] > > > > Here are your basic tradeoffs, including cabling, which is probably the > most > > crucial aspect of T/R > > > > IBM MAU > > Pro: patch cables easy to find (sometimes free), works well with native > > (DB-9) T/R connector > > Con: cabling bulkier (STP), relays tend to stick if MAU is jarred in > > transit, requires RJ-45 to IBM Data Connector adapter at the MAU side to > > work with UTP cabling > > > > RJ-45 MAU > > Pro: cabling is normal Cat5 unshielded twisted pair (UTP), works well > with > > PC NICs that have an RJ-45 port > > Con: need media filters to adapt DB-9 (on routers) to RJ-45 > > > > - Original Message - > > From: chris klebl > > To: > > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 4:33 PM > > Subject: Re: 2513 to MAU RJ-45 connection? [7:16426] > > > > > > > besides cabling, are there any advantages to going with an IBM vs an > RJ-45 > > > MAU? > > _ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=16442&t=16426 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 2513 to MAU RJ-45 connection? [7:16426]
cannot go back to back with TR. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Engelhard M. Labiro Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 8:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 2513 to MAU RJ-45 connection? [7:16426] Hi, I have 4 2612 (one RJ45 Token Ring I/F), how do I connect these routers` Token Ring I/Fs back-to-back? I tried using a UTP 5 straigh/cross cable but the link is down/down state. Searching the CCO but only come up connecting MAU to RJ-45 as you mention below. Any idea ? Thanks, - Original Message - From: "EA Louie" To: Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 9:04 AM Subject: Re: 2513 to MAU RJ-45 connection? [7:16426] > Here are your basic tradeoffs, including cabling, which is probably the most > crucial aspect of T/R > > IBM MAU > Pro: patch cables easy to find (sometimes free), works well with native > (DB-9) T/R connector > Con: cabling bulkier (STP), relays tend to stick if MAU is jarred in > transit, requires RJ-45 to IBM Data Connector adapter at the MAU side to > work with UTP cabling > > RJ-45 MAU > Pro: cabling is normal Cat5 unshielded twisted pair (UTP), works well with > PC NICs that have an RJ-45 port > Con: need media filters to adapt DB-9 (on routers) to RJ-45 > > - Original Message - > From: chris klebl > To: > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 4:33 PM > Subject: Re: 2513 to MAU RJ-45 connection? [7:16426] > > > > besides cabling, are there any advantages to going with an IBM vs an RJ-45 > > MAU? > _ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=16441&t=16426 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2513 to MAU RJ-45 connection? [7:16426]
Hi, I have 4 2612 (one RJ45 Token Ring I/F), how do I connect these routers` Token Ring I/Fs back-to-back? I tried using a UTP 5 straigh/cross cable but the link is down/down state. Searching the CCO but only come up connecting MAU to RJ-45 as you mention below. Any idea ? Thanks, - Original Message - From: "EA Louie" To: Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 9:04 AM Subject: Re: 2513 to MAU RJ-45 connection? [7:16426] > Here are your basic tradeoffs, including cabling, which is probably the most > crucial aspect of T/R > > IBM MAU > Pro: patch cables easy to find (sometimes free), works well with native > (DB-9) T/R connector > Con: cabling bulkier (STP), relays tend to stick if MAU is jarred in > transit, requires RJ-45 to IBM Data Connector adapter at the MAU side to > work with UTP cabling > > RJ-45 MAU > Pro: cabling is normal Cat5 unshielded twisted pair (UTP), works well with > PC NICs that have an RJ-45 port > Con: need media filters to adapt DB-9 (on routers) to RJ-45 > > - Original Message - > From: chris klebl > To: > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 4:33 PM > Subject: Re: 2513 to MAU RJ-45 connection? [7:16426] > > > > besides cabling, are there any advantages to going with an IBM vs an RJ-45 > > MAU? > _ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=16440&t=16426 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2513 to MAU RJ-45 connection? [7:16426]
Thanks Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=16435&t=16426 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2513 to MAU RJ-45 connection? [7:16426]
Here are your basic tradeoffs, including cabling, which is probably the most crucial aspect of T/R IBM MAU Pro: patch cables easy to find (sometimes free), works well with native (DB-9) T/R connector Con: cabling bulkier (STP), relays tend to stick if MAU is jarred in transit, requires RJ-45 to IBM Data Connector adapter at the MAU side to work with UTP cabling RJ-45 MAU Pro: cabling is normal Cat5 unshielded twisted pair (UTP), works well with PC NICs that have an RJ-45 port Con: need media filters to adapt DB-9 (on routers) to RJ-45 - Original Message - From: chris klebl To: Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 4:33 PM Subject: Re: 2513 to MAU RJ-45 connection? [7:16426] > besides cabling, are there any advantages to going with an IBM vs an RJ-45 > MAU? _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=16432&t=16426 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2513 to MAU RJ-45 connection? [7:16426]
besides cabling, are there any advantages to going with an IBM vs an RJ-45 MAU? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=16429&t=16426 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2513 to MAU RJ-45 connection? [7:16426]
If you don't stick with the IBM MAU and the Type 1 patch cable, use a token ring media filter (DB-9 to RJ-45). Some of them come with the cable already connected, and some of them look like the DB-9 to RJ-45 serial converter that you use for a console connection (with the RJ-45 jack), which you can connect to your MAU via a Cat5 patch cable. - Original Message - From: chris klebl To: Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 3:22 PM Subject: 2513 to MAU RJ-45 connection? [7:16426] > Just started adding tokenring to the home lab and got a 2513 comming in the > next couple of days. What is the best way to connect from the router > tokenring port to a MAU with RJ-45. Or should I stick with an IBM MAU? > > thanks for your help _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=16428&t=16426 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
