Re: 3DES [7:34756] AES? [7:34756]

2002-02-08 Thread Colin

The Rijndael block cipher.

Colin

Glenn Johnson wrote:

 Any idea when they might add the successor to 3DES (AES)?
 
 (I've seen the Jan 2001 position paper at
 http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/hb/vp3000/prodlit/vpnpo_sd.htm --
 just wondering if anyone knew more re timelines [assuming such can be
 shared, if it exists].)
 
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 The paranoid among us can think of other industries where industrial
 espionage might play a part. Insurance, medical, any industry where
 there are proprietary processes in place.
 
 Imagine if people had been able to hack Enron :-
 
 Chuck
 
 
 Joel Satterley  wrote in message
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Here, here, as long as you re-key every so often, who's going to 
bother ??


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My opinion is that nobody is going to try to intercept and decrypt 
your traffic unless you deal in very large amounts of money. DES 
will keep

 the
 
curious at bay. It is less processor intensive.


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I have been looking at routers/firewalls. I am thinking of going 
with the 2611 with a ADSL card, I also want to get a 515. Our 
office is not that big yet, but I want to plan for the future. I 
see that the Pix 515R only does DES, but doesn't do 3DES. But when

 
I buy the router, I can get
it with 3DES. I am just kinda confused, where is the best place to

 use
 
3DES, on the firewall, or on the router? Or it doesn't
matter. The way I
see it, if I wanted to do 3DES on the firewall with the 515, I

 would
 
have to buy the 515UR, which is about 10K. I don't really need the
thoughput for 100,000 users just yet though. Any suggestions on

 this?
 


Thanks in advance...



Brian Zee MCSE, CCNA, A+




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RE: 3DES [7:34756] AES? [7:34756]

2002-02-08 Thread Sean Knox

I'm not sure when Cisco will incorporate AES, but it is already used in SSH2
and other products (can't think of any others of the top of my head). In
fact, my company incorporates in AES into a client-server solution we offer.
I've only read and heard good things about AES.

- Sean

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FIPS197 was declared as the new AES in November, 2001. The standard will be
in effect in May, 2002. When do we see it in actual products... not too
sure.

http://csrc.nist.gov/publications/fips/fips197/fips-197.pdf




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