Re: ACRC Vs. BSCN
""Anil Panjwani"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > hi > that's the impression i get from exam outline. but cisco is notorious for > putting up Qs which are remotely connected to exam outlines > > can anyone clarify if IPX, ISDN DDR, Bridges & access-lists are actually > removed? I teach BSCN and the IPX, ISDN, bridging and access-list topics have been removed. You are still required to have an understanding of how to construct access-lists as these are used for route filtering and route maps (policy-based routing). The questions in the Routing 2.0 test map exactly to the topic areas in the course and I found nothing untoward or unexpected turning up in the test. This is a much better-constructed course than ACRC and has brand new labs and case studies to supplement the course material. The student/equipment ratio is also far better. Instead of having one router between two students, there is now a whole student pod of three routers (in our lab at IBM Canada, one 3640 and two 2522s) to be managed by two students. There really isn't a single topic that hasn't been revised or rewritten. To my mind, having attended ACRC and seen BSCN, there is only one major area of difference between the two: ACRC touched on BGP in about 20 pages. BSCN has two very sizeable chapeters on BGP, replete with labs and case studies. The last day of the course is pretty much one gigantic superlab with everything learned in the course being configured. -- Edward Solomon CCNA, CCSI Senior I/T Specialist Networking Solutions IBM Canada Ltd. - Learning Services Tel.: (905) 316-3241 Fax: (905) 316-3101 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet: http://www.can.ibm.com/services/learning/net_internet.html ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ACRC Vs. BSCN
hi that's the impression i get from exam outline. but cisco is notorious for putting up Qs which are remotely connected to exam outlines can anyone clarify if IPX, ISDN DDR, Bridges & access-lists are actually removed? thanks - Original Message - From: Trevor Corness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Cisco Groupstudy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; EEIEOL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: July 19, 2000 12:35 AM Subject: RE: ACRC Vs. BSCN > take a look at the objectives on Cisco's site. In class, our instructor > told us the major differences. This is from memory, so I might miss > something. > > More : BGP, EIGRP, OSPF, Redistribution > Removed : IPX, ISDN DDR, Bridging, Spanning-Tree (all covered in ICND) > > Basically, it's more indepth routing, with all the switching/bridging taken > out, and concentrating on IP. > > Regards, > Trevor Corness, CCNA > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > EEIEOL > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 10:27 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: ACRC Vs. BSCN > > > A Chairde, >I have been studying for ACRC, but due to travel commitments > will not be able to complete exam by 31 July deadline.I will study BSCN > instead .I was wondering if anyone knows are these exams much different, > or basically on the same lines, OSPF,EIGRP,ISDN etc > > >Thanks in advance, > > >Slan / Ed > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ACRC vs BSCN
On Sat, 22 Jul 2000, Paul Cheetham wrote: > Hi, > > I have recently completed CCNA 2.0 and wanting to continue my study. There > isn't too many books out there for BSCN at the moment and i was wondering is > there a BIG difference or can I just use the ACRC books to study? Why not start on BCMSN, BTRAN or CIT first? BCSN is being published in a few weeks.but the other 3 are already outnothing says you have to take BCSN first..so why not take it second or last even? I agree, don't hesitate. Once you have momentum, keep hitting the books and stay with it, so it all stays fresh. Brian > > cheers > > Paul > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- - Brian Feeny, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] 318-222-2638 x 109 http://www.shreve.net/~signal Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ACRC Vs. BSCN
I passed it also last WE. Add with it VLSM which takes 3/4 of the last one. Any feedbacks about the Switching 2.0 exam? cvp Dennis Laganiere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 07/19/2000 03:04:55 AM Please respond to Dennis Laganiere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Eddie O Leary (EEI)'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: (bcc: Claude-Vincent PEREZ/JP-TOKYO-HOLDING/LVMH) Subject: RE: ACRC Vs. BSCN Bridging, IPX, Appletalk, remote access and ISDN have been dropped. Focus on BGP, OSPF, EIGRP for three quarters of the test. I passed it last week, so I know you can do it. :-) - Dennis -Original Message- From: Eddie O Leary (EEI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 10:53 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: ACRC Vs. BSCN A Chairde, Are there big differences in these exams , or are based on same lines I.E OSPF,EIGRP,ISDN Etc. Slan / Ed ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ACRC Vs. BSCN
Bridging, IPX, Appletalk, remote access and ISDN have been dropped. Focus on BGP, OSPF, EIGRP for three quarters of the test. I passed it last week, so I know you can do it. :-) - Dennis -Original Message- From: Eddie O Leary (EEI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 10:53 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: ACRC Vs. BSCN A Chairde, Are there big differences in these exams , or are based on same lines I.E OSPF,EIGRP,ISDN Etc. Slan / Ed ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ACRC Vs. BSCN
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/pdf/bscn.pdf At 06:27 PM 7/18/00 +0100, you wrote: >A Chairde, >I have been studying for ACRC, but due to travel commitments >will not be able to complete exam by 31 July deadline.I will study BSCN >instead .I was wondering if anyone knows are these exams much different, >or basically on the same lines, OSPF,EIGRP,ISDN etc > > >Thanks in advance, > > >Slan / Ed ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ACRC Vs. BSCN
I used Large Scale ip Networking solutions from Cisco. There are 5 chapters in the book that really make up the BCSN. "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Dennis, > > What did you primarily use for study materials for BCSN? (books) > > On Tue, 18 Jul 2000, Dennis Laganiere wrote: > > > Bridging, IPX, Appletalk, remote access and ISDN have been dropped. Focus > > on BGP, OSPF, EIGRP for three quarters of the test. I passed it last week, > > so I know you can do it. :-) > > - Dennis > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Eddie O Leary (EEI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 10:53 AM > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > Subject: ACRC Vs. BSCN > > > > > > A Chairde, > > Are there big differences in these exams , or are based on > > same lines I.E OSPF,EIGRP,ISDN Etc. > > > > > > Slan / Ed > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - > Brian Feeny, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 318-222-2638 x 109 http://www.shreve.net/~signal > Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ACRC Vs. BSCN
Dennis, What did you primarily use for study materials for BCSN? (books) On Tue, 18 Jul 2000, Dennis Laganiere wrote: > Bridging, IPX, Appletalk, remote access and ISDN have been dropped. Focus > on BGP, OSPF, EIGRP for three quarters of the test. I passed it last week, > so I know you can do it. :-) > - Dennis > > -Original Message- > From: Eddie O Leary (EEI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 10:53 AM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: ACRC Vs. BSCN > > > A Chairde, > Are there big differences in these exams , or are based on > same lines I.E OSPF,EIGRP,ISDN Etc. > > > Slan / Ed > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - Brian Feeny, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] 318-222-2638 x 109 http://www.shreve.net/~signal Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ACRC Vs. BSCN
I will tell you that just from Cisco's site, what they list in the outlines, they are definitly different. One obvious note is that ACRC does not include BGP in the outline, BCSN does..that right there is enough to tell me not to use exclusivly ACRC materials for the BCSN test. On Tue, 18 Jul 2000, EEIEOL wrote: > A Chairde, >I have been studying for ACRC, but due to travel commitments > will not be able to complete exam by 31 July deadline.I will study BSCN > instead .I was wondering if anyone knows are these exams much different, > or basically on the same lines, OSPF,EIGRP,ISDN etc > > >Thanks in advance, > > >Slan / Ed - Brian Feeny, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] 318-222-2638 x 109 http://www.shreve.net/~signal Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ACRC Vs. BSCN
take a look at the objectives on Cisco's site. In class, our instructor told us the major differences. This is from memory, so I might miss something. More : BGP, EIGRP, OSPF, Redistribution Removed : IPX, ISDN DDR, Bridging, Spanning-Tree (all covered in ICND) Basically, it's more indepth routing, with all the switching/bridging taken out, and concentrating on IP. Regards, Trevor Corness, CCNA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of EEIEOL Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 10:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ACRC Vs. BSCN A Chairde, I have been studying for ACRC, but due to travel commitments will not be able to complete exam by 31 July deadline.I will study BSCN instead .I was wondering if anyone knows are these exams much different, or basically on the same lines, OSPF,EIGRP,ISDN etc Thanks in advance, Slan / Ed ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
