Did you get a chance to take a look at the IP configuration of your DHCP
clients? Router A could have been sending out proxy ARP's (like you already
mentioned) and possibly ICMP redirects to your workstations.

Without the default route, and with the wrong subnet mask, the A router's
routing table looks like this:

C 10.67.2.0/24
S 10.67.1.0/24

Without the default route, the A router doesn't have routes for 10.67.7.x or
10.67.8.x. If the A router is replying when your workstations ARP for your
servers, then your workstations are sending out packets with a destination
IP address of your server, but with a destination MAC of the A router's
ethernet interface. The A router has routes to your servers, so there's no
problem there, except of course for inefficiency. When your servers send
replies back to router A however, the router has no route back to your
workstations. It did when the default route was in place, but without it the
A router has no return path.

That sounds far fetched, but I can't think of another explanation that fits
your description of the problem. If you find yourself in such a situation
again, fire up a protocol analyzer and compare destination MACs with
destination IP addresses, and you'll get a better picture of what's going on.

hth,
Hal

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 7:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Appreciate Your Expertise On This Strange ARP Problem [7:38738]


Hi there 

This is my first time to post a question.

Here is a real scenario which happened a few days ago. Though the problem
has been resolved, i still cannot understand what the cause is.

Customer A has a partner connection to B's network. due to lack of
capability on B's Router/Firewall, one of A's router is plugged directly
onto B's internal LAN(sounds silly, but it is true). 

B's LAN use 10.67.0.0/16 address, of which 10.67.1.x is for servers,
10.67.2.x for routers/switches, 10.67.7.x and 10.67.8.x for DHCP clients.
B's router has 10.67.2.1 addr. 

A's router on B's LAN gets assigned an ip addr 10.67.2.2,but a wrong /24
mask was given by B. since A's users need to talk to B's server, a static
route(ip route 10.67.1.0 255.255.255.0 10.67.2.1) was added. 

A default route is also configured(ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 10.67.2.1) on
the A's router.

when this default route was taken off(no obvious reason to point a default
route to B's default router), all B's dhcp clients cannot talk to their own
servers(10.67.1.x) any more even they are on the same subnet.

B's network support was called in, and they found that the A's router is
incorrectly answering ARP requests(by default ip proxy-arp is enabled on the
LAN interface). and somehow the arp respone reaches the client before the
server's, so the client cannot talk to the servers.

the problem later was resolved by rectifying the subnet mask on A's router.
but i still cannot figure out what went wrong when the default route on A's
router was removed.

I'll be much appreciated if anyone can shed some lights on this.

regards

Alec Shi


Senior Support Engineer
Axon Computertime
Auckland
NZ



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