Re: Book Review - CCIE Exam Cram
On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, Chuck Larrieu wrote: Quick and dirty book review. CCIE Routing and Switching Exam Cram, by Tom Thomas and Henry Benjamin http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1576104338/qid=972768223/sr=1-3/104-3 810111-6781503 I truly wanted to hate this book. The very title Exam Cram rubs me the wrong way for some reason. But my Design Engineer, the woman who reviews my work and provides me with plenty of good advice in my job, had good things to say, so I bought it. I bought this too. I also normally despise exam cram. But their isn't enough CCIE prep books, and it looked like it had alot of nice tableized information.which it does. And I have to say, this one turned out to be a pleasant surprise. The chapters on bridging and switching, networking theory, TCP/IP networking, and Cisco device operations are excellent. The coverage of RSRP, DLSw+, and RIF calculation, are excellent. I was disappointed in the Routing chapter. With the exception of OSPF ( I wonder why? ) the routing protocols were not very well covered. Doyle is a far better source for routing protocol behavior. nod I found the BGP stuff real weak as well...even for just "review" material. I personally think the book has alot of errors. It went to press to fast. I can't say I was impressed by the OSPF though. Does this statement impress you: Ch.6,p208 "OSPF type 1 routes are always preferred over type 2 routes for the same dstination, because the cost will always be lower." Ch.5 p162 A section titled "Transport Control Protocol (TCP)"other places in the book call it "Transmission Control Protocol"...it just flip flops back and forth. I think the RIF stuff had some errors..I am just scanning the book and trying to remember. The BGP routing decision isn't exactly complete or accurate. p297 shows a config for tacacs yet is setting the "radius-server host" instead of "tacacs-server host" Definitely one to add to one's study repertoire, particularly as a review in those last days prior to actually taking the test. In fact, I became I wish they had an eratta. And if they do, I wish they would make it easier to locate. absolutely positive I would pass after racking up the points on the practice test at the back of the book. Furthermore, now that I have seen the actual written, I can say that in terms of content and style, the Exam Cram practice test is most realistic I have seen. Will this book alone prepare you to pass? No way! Is it a good source of information that appears on the exam but is difficult to find elsewhere? You bet! I recommend that one invest in the CCIE Exam Cram book as early as one can in one's certification career. There is a lot of good stuff there, and what you don't understand early in your career you will most definitely grow into as you progress. I agree its good to get, but I am disappointed because they had alot of good visuals and ideas yet the delivery was a little weak. I know it is very hard to write and edit a good book, but I wish these companies would get copies to several people to proof read before going to print (or more / better people). Brian Chuck -- I am Locutus, a CCIE Lab Proctor. Xx_Brain_dumps_xX are futile. Your life as it has been is over ( if you hope to pass ) From this time forward, you will study US! ( apologies to the folks at Star Trek TNG ) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Book Review
See comments below... I would greatly appreciate if someone could help me select books for CCNP preparation. At present I have the following books: 1. Cisco Ccnp Preparation Library by Laura A. Chappell, Daniel Farkas, Tim Boyles (1st Edition) ISBN: 1578702070 Good set, but you'll need CCNP 2.0 specific info as well... 2. CCIE Professional Development: Routing Tcp/Ip by Jeff Doyle ISBN: 1578700418 Step 1 in any Cisco Cert program. This book is a MUST! 3. Internet Routing Architecture by Bassam Halabi ISBN: 157870233X Best first book on BGP! This one is another MUST! 4. BSCN by Thomas M. Thomas ISBN: 0072124776 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0072124776/ref=cm_mp_wl/104-1240568-9440706?colid=2MV52LTVCIQ11 You really should get this one. Great book, great author - and he's a contributor to this list too! 5. Building Cisco MultiLayer Switched Networks by Karen Webb ISBN: 1578700930 6. CCIE Professional Development: Cisco LAN Switching by Kennedy Clark ISBN: 1578700949 Would you prefer book #5 or #6 or both. Get both! One is more exam focused, but Kennedy's book has been called the "switching bible". You should get both, it won't be wasted money... Dale [=`) _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Book Review
The Doyle/Halabi routing books you list are greatand actually maybe too much just for the test, but knowing everything presented in these books will only make you better. I used an older ACRC book as well andfilled in the gaps with other material. Besides, you will want the Doyle and Halabi books for CCIE preparation, so you won't go wrong buying them now. I used the Cisco Press LAN Switching book, which I consider the switching Bible. You can't do better for switching. Rik
RE: Book Review
I have this book. It is indeed an excellent on-the-job referenec. However, I have been warned that it is becoming a little dated in terms of its content. can anyone confirm/dispute this? Derek Lewinson, CCNA, MCSE Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel/Fax/Mobile: 0709 205 2615 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of William E Gragido Sent: 31 July 2000 05:26 To: Cisco; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Book Review It is by far one of the best books written on the subject matter. I would suggest it for anyone who is serious in pursuing higher level Cisco certification or for anyone simply interested in becoming more intimate with the technologies. Thumbs Up! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cisco Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 6:51 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Book Review Any comments on this book? Cisco Certification: Bridges, Routers and Switches for CCIEs Written by: Bruce Caslow Format: Hardcover, 840pp. ISBN: 0130825379 Publisher: Prentice Hall PTR Pub. Date: December 1998 Big D. CCNP/MCSE/MCNE ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Book Review
On 30 Jul 2000 21:27:58 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Neiberger) wrote: Cisco Certification: Bridges, Routers and Switches for CCIEs Where is the errata for Caslow's book? I looked on Prentice-Hall's site and didn't find anything. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Book Review
The best a most have for CCIE candidates Duck - Original Message - From: Cisco [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 4:50 PM Subject: Book Review Any comments on this book? Cisco Certification: Bridges, Routers and Switches for CCIEs Written by: Bruce Caslow Format: Hardcover, 840pp. ISBN: 0130825379 Publisher: Prentice Hall PTR Pub. Date: December 1998 Big D. CCNP/MCSE/MCNE ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Book Review
It's a truly excellent book, with one caveat: GET THE ERRATA! The information is logically presented and there are many lab scenarios to help you understand the material. The number of errors, however, will make you think you're losing your mind. Once you've corrected the typos, etc., you'll be in great shape. Any comments on this book? Cisco Certification: Bridges, Routers and Switches for CCIEs Written by: Bruce Caslow Format: Hardcover, 840pp. ISBN: 0130825379 Publisher: Prentice Hall PTR Pub. Date: December 1998 Big D. CCNP/MCSE/MCNE ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Book Review
It is by far one of the best books written on the subject matter. I would suggest it for anyone who is serious in pursuing higher level Cisco certification or for anyone simply interested in becoming more intimate with the technologies. Thumbs Up! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cisco Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 6:51 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Book Review Any comments on this book? Cisco Certification: Bridges, Routers and Switches for CCIEs Written by: Bruce Caslow Format: Hardcover, 840pp. ISBN: 0130825379 Publisher: Prentice Hall PTR Pub. Date: December 1998 Big D. CCNP/MCSE/MCNE ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
