Robert,
Ditto here on the Cabletrons! We have an 8600 that has caused our network
to go to hell-in-a-handbasket on more than one occasion.
Cabletron/Enterasys Engineers never seem to have a good explanation for the
problems either. I am waiting for the day when we can pull that thing out
and replace it with a 6509.
Heather Buri
CSC Technology Services - Houston
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-----Original Message-----
From: Thompson, Robert D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 6:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CCIE market FLOOD !! was: Current Wait time on the lab
[7:12934]
I have had the same problems with Cabletron/Enterasys SSR equipment.
Its seems that some companies put money into QA and some rely on old
customers to do it for them
Rob
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hal9001 [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 19 July 2001 12:39
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: CCIE market FLOOD !! was: Current Wait time on the lab
> [7:12933]
>
> They have retracted and pulled back from many areas they were to develop
> and
> promised developments were not delivered. I worked for one of their
> resellers, what we were promised one minute was not delivered the next.
>
> Support fell like a stone as did staff their end, we could not give away
> their kit and there was a flight to quality i.e. Cisco/Nortel. In
> addition
> their power supplies were suspect and we were forever returning their
> S24's
> and S48's, if it was not for that then it was their ASICS and Ports
> packing
> up. Once one went others soon followed.
>
> We had software problems with Black Diamond Blades and you had to be very
> careful what blades and software you mixed which was never made to clear
> until it all went wrong. Put two of those beasts in a room and it sounded
> like a fully loaded B29 on takeoff. Quality control was not that good.
> If
> you have got Extreme (unless you are a reseller) you will never be
> unemployed, you will always be replacing them and having to tweak them.
> Best of British mate............Oh by the way dI hope you are not using
> ESRP.......you'll have lots of fun with that watching the kit go up and
> down
> and take other vendors/peoples kit out!
>
> Karl
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 11:29 AM
> Subject: Re: CCIE market FLOOD !! was: Current Wait time on the lab
> [7:12931]
>
>
> > How do you figure Extreme is in trouble? Monday's WSJ had an article
> about
> > the tech stocks slump and Extreme, Foundry, as well as a few others were
> > noted as part of the 15% that was generally considered to have "turned
> the
> > corner" and shown improvement.
> >
> > Just curious, I hadn't heard anything about them being in trouble, on
> top
> > of that we just bought a boatload of their switches (which do seem so
> far
> > to work very well by the way)...
> >
> > I need my car washed! :) Do you need any fries (chips) with that?
> >
> >
> >
>
> >
> > "hal9001"
> >
> > cc:
> > Sent by: Subject: Re: CCIE market
> FLOOD
> > !! was: Current Wait time on the
> > nobody@groups lab
> > [7:12867]
> >
> > tudy.com
> >
> >
> >
> > 07/18/2001
> > 04:06
> > PM
> >
> > Please
> > respond
> > to
> >
> > "hal9001"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Fine but the obvious one is Nortel, but look how many they have fired,
> > Ericsson the same and I've had experience of their Tigress and
> Congo/Danube
> > etc range. Bad support for a poor product. Extreme are in trouble,
> > Juniper
> > and Foundry very small. 3Com basically out of it and I think must have
> > seen
> > it coming. I am of the opinion you really have to get a wide spread of
> > experience and certifications.
> >
> >
> >
> > Anyone need the car washing?
> >
> > Karl
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From:
> > To:
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 8:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: CCIE market FLOOD !! was: Current Wait time on the lab
> > [7:12861]
> >
> >
> > > Its my believe that by being a CISCO person, it does not
> > > UN-qualify any one of us to work with other vendor
> > > equipment. What we now need to do is learn the other
> > > companies products so we have the edge on the situation.
> > >
> > > With some minor tweaks we should be able to support
> > > other equipment.
> > >
> > > This applies to all pc environments. The basics are the
> > > same, the rules - different order.
> > > > The market conditions are really depressing right now but that does
> not
> > > mean
> > > > that people
> > > > give up their dreams and stop working towards them . If you look at
> > all
> > > the
> > > > certifications like CNE and MCSE they all had their better days and
> > anyone
> > > > who had them
> > > > was king but not anymore .That is the certification market for you
> .
> > Every
> > > > certification has a life and it is upto the Company to give its
> > > > certification a longer
> > > > life by making it more and more difficult and I guess Cisco has done
> a
> > > > commendable job
> > > > on that for the past 8 years but I think what cisco needs right now
> is
> > more
> > > > people using
> > > > thier products out their in the market so that they don't get
> crushed
> > by
> > > the
> > > > competition
> > > > . So with that said , teh CCIE might still be able to get you in a
> lot
> > of
> > > > positions and
> > > > then its upto you . Just my 2 cents
> > > >
> > > > Jaspreet
> > > >
> > > > Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > At 10:31 PM 7/17/01, KY wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >Here is what I came across from Mentortech's web site on the
> > > experience
> > > > of
> > > > > >a receiptionist they are looking for:
> > > > > >"Education & Experience:
> > > > > >At least one year previous experience as a receptionist, with
> > multi-line
> > > > > >phone system."
> > > > > >
> > > > > >What kind of phone system needs someone to get to level of being
> > able
> > to
> > > > use
> > > > > >it a year later?
> > > > >
> > > > > It's VoIP. Just kidding. ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > >A 12 year old can learn how to use any phone system in the world
> in
> > less
> > > > > >than 20mins.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I guess in mentortech, they are looking for the Queen of
> experience.
> > > > >
> > > > > Or King. In the U.S. it is illegal to specify the sex of the job
> > > candidate
> > > > > you are seeking.
> > > > >
> > > > > >I know the reality is every employer is looking for experienced
> > people,
> > > > but
> > > > > >it does not mean it is not rediculous, at least in my eyes. The
> > first
> > > one
> > > > > >implented MPLS on their proudction network had to use
> > "inexperienced"
> > > > > >engineers doing it, I am pretty sure about that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Just my .02.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >KY
> > > > > ________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > > > > http://www.priscilla.com
EOM
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