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Hi Dennis, Just a couple of comments on your lab equipment. Instead of a 2511 you might consider a CS-516. It is a 2511 without the two serial ports. They go for around $300 on ebay. On the voice you might consider a 3810 instead of adding voice to the 2600. The VCM for the 2600 is expensive. You need one on the 3810 also but there are usually quit a few for sale on ebay with this and the fxs ports installed in the $500 to $600 range. Programing the voice on them is the same as a 2600. I also bought a couple without voice for $300 each instead of the 2501's. They have a much faster processor. Thanks for all your help Wes Stevens From: Kaminski, Shawn G Reply-To: Kaminski, Shawn G To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCIE preparation [7:31305] Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 14:16:40 -0500 Dennis, What a nice and helpful write-up! Shawn K. -Original Message- From: Dennis Laganiere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 10:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FW: CCIE preparation [7:31305] Just yesturday I was putting something together for someone who used my boson to pass the written. Most of it is just some of the common wisdom from the history of this group. Here's what I had, and I welcome feedback (and good hearted abuse) from the group... my first draft follows -- Read um and Weep Here's the short list of books I would recommend to read (at a minimum) during your lab preparation. Find yourself a shady spot outside, and crack the spine of each of these page-turners, it's the only chance you'll have to see the sun for a few months: 7 Cisco Certification: Bridges, Routers and Switches for CCIEs, Second Edition by Andrew Bruce Caslow 7 Internet Routing Architectures, Second Edition by Bassam Halabi 7 CCIE Prof. Development Routing TCP/IP Volumes I II, Jeff Doyle 7 Cisco LAN Switching (CCIE professional development) 7 Cisco Catalyst LAN Switching by Louis R Rossi, Louis D. Rossi, Thomas Rossi 7 Configuring Cisco Routers for bridging, DLSW+, Desktop Protocols by Tan Nam-Kee 7 My own lab prep book, once I finish writing it (look for it sometime in 2003)... J Building your own Pod: One of the most important elements of your CCIE lab preparation is having equipment to practice on. My advice would be put together a home pod watching every dollar very carefully, and then sell it on ebay when you're done. If you do everything right, your practice time should only cost you the interest on your credit card, and the depreciation in the value of the equipment. What follows is a list of what I think has the makings of a great CCIE Lab practice pod: 7 One Cisco 2511 router to use as a terminal server. A 2509 would work fine if you have one, but trust me, before long you'll need the extra ports. 7 A router with multiple Serial ports to use as a Frame Relay switch. Cisco 2522's are popular for this, although in my own lab I use a 2610 with an 8-port serial module. 7 Two Cisco 2503's. 7 One Cisco 2504 (for the FatKid labs). 7 Four or five more Cisco 2500 series routers with a selection of Serial, Ethernet and Token Ring ports, (I love 2513's, because they have all three). 7 One ISDN emulator. 7 One Cat2924XL or Cat5k Switch. 7 One Cisco 3620 or 2620 with at least one Fast Ethernet port and a pair of FXS ports for VoIP. 7 Two CAB-OCTAL-ASYNC. These 8-lead octal cables (68 pin to 8 male RJ-45s) are used with the terminal server 7 One MAU. 7 Lots of DTE/DCE serial cables, AUI adapters, patch cables, and crossover cables. * Please note that all 2500 series routers should have 16 Megs of memory, 16 Megs of Flash and be loaded with an Enterprise Version of 12.1 IOS appropriate to its physical configuration. The only things missing from the list above is ATM and a Token Ring switch. I consider ATM just too darn expensive for a home pod, and a 3920 is hard to get, expensive, and easy to configure. For both these technologies, I would recommend renting some on-line lab time. OK, The Equipment Looks Good on the Rack, Now What? You'll also need practice labs to run on your routers. Here's a list of lab materials I think are useful, in order of complexity (easiest to hardest): 7 Cisco CCIE Lab Study Guide, Second Edition by Stephen Hutnik and Michael Satterlee 7 www.FatKid.com (these have the added advantage of being free) 7 www.solutionlabs.com 7 www.IPExpert.net 7 ccbootcmp Advice on Preparation: Know the CD. When you're in the lab, this will be one of your few friends. Know where the command reference are, and most importantly, know where the sample configurations are. Think how much time you can save if you cut-and-paste samples from the CD into your configurations. Print out and keep posted on the wall a copy of the exam blueprint. This should be a constant reminder of what you know, and what's left to figure out. Avoid
RE: CCIE preparation [7:31305]
Dennis, What a nice and helpful write-up! Shawn K. -Original Message- From: Dennis Laganiere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 10:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FW: CCIE preparation [7:31305] Just yesturday I was putting something together for someone who used my boson to pass the written. Most of it is just some of the common wisdom from the history of this group. Here's what I had, and I welcome feedback (and good hearted abuse) from the group... my first draft follows -- Read um and Weep Here's the short list of books I would recommend to read (at a minimum) during your lab preparation. Find yourself a shady spot outside, and crack the spine of each of these page-turners, it's the only chance you'll have to see the sun for a few months: 7 Cisco Certification: Bridges, Routers and Switches for CCIEs, Second Edition by Andrew Bruce Caslow 7 Internet Routing Architectures, Second Edition by Bassam Halabi 7 CCIE Prof. Development Routing TCP/IP Volumes I II, Jeff Doyle 7 Cisco LAN Switching (CCIE professional development) 7 Cisco Catalyst LAN Switching by Louis R Rossi, Louis D. Rossi, Thomas Rossi 7 Configuring Cisco Routers for bridging, DLSW+, Desktop Protocols by Tan Nam-Kee 7 My own lab prep book, once I finish writing it (look for it sometime in 2003)... J Building your own Pod: One of the most important elements of your CCIE lab preparation is having equipment to practice on. My advice would be put together a home pod watching every dollar very carefully, and then sell it on ebay when you're done. If you do everything right, your practice time should only cost you the interest on your credit card, and the depreciation in the value of the equipment. What follows is a list of what I think has the makings of a great CCIE Lab practice pod: 7 One Cisco 2511 router to use as a terminal server. A 2509 would work fine if you have one, but trust me, before long you'll need the extra ports. 7 A router with multiple Serial ports to use as a Frame Relay switch. Cisco 2522's are popular for this, although in my own lab I use a 2610 with an 8-port serial module. 7 Two Cisco 2503's. 7 One Cisco 2504 (for the FatKid labs). 7 Four or five more Cisco 2500 series routers with a selection of Serial, Ethernet and Token Ring ports, (I love 2513's, because they have all three). 7 One ISDN emulator. 7 One Cat2924XL or Cat5k Switch. 7 One Cisco 3620 or 2620 with at least one Fast Ethernet port and a pair of FXS ports for VoIP. 7 Two CAB-OCTAL-ASYNC. These 8-lead octal cables (68 pin to 8 male RJ-45s) are used with the terminal server 7 One MAU. 7 Lots of DTE/DCE serial cables, AUI adapters, patch cables, and crossover cables. * Please note that all 2500 series routers should have 16 Megs of memory, 16 Megs of Flash and be loaded with an Enterprise Version of 12.1 IOS appropriate to its physical configuration. The only things missing from the list above is ATM and a Token Ring switch. I consider ATM just too darn expensive for a home pod, and a 3920 is hard to get, expensive, and easy to configure. For both these technologies, I would recommend renting some on-line lab time. OK, The Equipment Looks Good on the Rack, Now What? You'll also need practice labs to run on your routers. Here's a list of lab materials I think are useful, in order of complexity (easiest to hardest): 7 Cisco CCIE Lab Study Guide, Second Edition by Stephen Hutnik and Michael Satterlee 7 www.FatKid.com (these have the added advantage of being free) 7 www.solutionlabs.com 7 www.IPExpert.net 7 ccbootcmp Advice on Preparation: Know the CD. When you're in the lab, this will be one of your few friends. Know where the command reference are, and most importantly, know where the sample configurations are. Think how much time you can save if you cut-and-paste samples from the CD into your configurations. Print out and keep posted on the wall a copy of the exam blueprint. This should be a constant reminder of what you know, and what's left to figure out. Avoid first time pressure. Only a small percentage of people pass on the first attempt, and your four digit number is not de-valued if you make several attempts. Prepare for what you expect the exam to be, but be ready to accept the first attempt as exploratory expedition; a chance to map the terrain for future trips. Who knows; the extra calm of reduced expectations may actually help you pass. Watch the news feeds at www.groupstudy.com, these are excellent free resources. People are always posting problems, and working out how to help them not only builds goodwill, but helps develop your own understanding of these technologies. Focus on the core technologies; ISDN, Frame Relay, bridging, routing protocols, redistribution, etc. These will represent the bulk of the points
Re: CCIE preparation [7:31305]
You might also need / go thru the book - BGP configurtion and command reference - William Parkhurst. The book covers almost all the commands under BGP and simple example for all of those. my $0.02 rajesh Marcus Faust wrote: I have recently attained the CCNA and CCNP certifications and was a little curious about preparing for the rigorous CCIE. I would like to know some information pertaining to preparing for this certification. I do have some access to Cisco equipment, and I know that nothing beats hands on experience. However, I was most curious how to go about the reading part of the preparation process. Now I know that there are some must-haves out there such as Jeff Doyles 2 volumes of Routing TCP/IP and Halabi's Internet Routing Architectures , and that book by Caslow keeps popping up. Is it a good idea to invest in these books and then prepare for the lab with the hands-on? Or is it a better idea to read these books while doing the hands-on? Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thank you. _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=31310t=31305 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE preparation [7:31305]
You will most likely read these books many times. I've found that doing the hands-on while reading the books helps me understand what is being said. At the same time, it takes some of the boredom out of trying to plow through books of this size! Hands-on experience is so critical that I can't stress it enough. When I first started doing the Cisco certification track many years ago, I learned a quick lesson that the real world is very unlike book-learning. So, my suggestion is to read the books while doing the hands-on. Shawn K. -Original Message- From: Marcus Faust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 2:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE preparation [7:31305] I have recently attained the CCNA and CCNP certifications and was a little curious about preparing for the rigorous CCIE. I would like to know some information pertaining to preparing for this certification. I do have some access to Cisco equipment, and I know that nothing beats hands on experience. However, I was most curious how to go about the reading part of the preparation process. Now I know that there are some must-haves out there such as Jeff Doyles 2 volumes of Routing TCP/IP and Halabi's Internet Routing Architectures , and that book by Caslow keeps popping up. Is it a good idea to invest in these books and then prepare for the lab with the hands-on? Or is it a better idea to read these books while doing the hands-on? Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thank you. _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=31312t=31305 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE preparation [7:31305]
The written exam is primarily theory and background, with some (but not an overwhelming) amount of Cisco IOS content. Follow the blueprint and check out the recommended reading list: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/routing.html For the Lab exam, here are a number of links providing the basics for it: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/exam_preparation/lab.html http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/new_format.html - Original Message - From: Rajesh Kumar To: Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:49 AM Subject: Re: CCIE preparation [7:31305] You might also need / go thru the book - BGP configurtion and command reference - William Parkhurst. The book covers almost all the commands under BGP and simple example for all of those. my $0.02 rajesh Marcus Faust wrote: I have recently attained the CCNA and CCNP certifications and was a little curious about preparing for the rigorous CCIE. I would like to know some information pertaining to preparing for this certification. I do have some access to Cisco equipment, and I know that nothing beats hands on experience. However, I was most curious how to go about the reading part of the preparation process. Now I know that there are some must-haves out there such as Jeff Doyles 2 volumes of Routing TCP/IP and Halabi's Internet Routing Architectures , and that book by Caslow keeps popping up. Is it a good idea to invest in these books and then prepare for the lab with the hands-on? Or is it a better idea to read these books while doing the hands-on? Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thank you. _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=31315t=31305 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
