Re: CSU/DSU question

2001-02-09 Thread John Neiberger

For data over T-1, you should use ESF/B8ZS, not SF/AMI.  Assuming this is a clear 
channel T-1, the datalink protocol is up to you.  If you have Cisco routers on each 
side, either HDLC or PPP would be good choices.  If any of the routers are not Cisco, 
use PPP.

Have you configured your serial controller correctly, making sure it is using the 
correct timeslots?

Perhaps you should post the relevant portions of your config so we can troubleshoot 
further.

Regards,
John

> 
> I have an old csu/dsu (rad  fcd 1 ) conected to a 7500 router. we use this
> T1  to enable two of our sites to communicate point to point (all is working
> at the moment). However I am trying to implement that same connection with a
> 2610 with a built in csu/dsu. Originally I configure the Controller on the
> 2610 to use ESF framing , B8ZS and PPP encapsulation.  This router was in
> operation before , being used as an Internet router 
> so I know the HW is good. Hower when i connected the 2610 with the new
> config (wiped out old onfig when used for internet) to the TI (provided by
> PAC BELL) being use on the 7500 I got some weird results. 
> serial x (reset) , line prot down
> 
> Then I changed the encapsultion to HDLC ,that got rid of the reset , and
> changed the framing to SF . When I changed to framing ,  i got se up, line
> prot  up , then few seconds later  i did a sh int  and saw the  up , down.
> I tested my controller to make sure HW is ok by connecting it to one of the
> T1'S providing internet access. It worked fine , off course I had to change
> to esf, b8zs and ppp.
> 
> Is it the telco who prvides us what we should use as framing, linecode and
> encapsulation?  or does it depend on the csu/dsu being used.  ??? 
> 
>  
> 
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RE: CSU/DSU question

2001-02-09 Thread Stull, Cory

Telco dictates the circuits parameters.. The encapsulation however for a T1
can be decided by you... unless it is frame-relay or X.25 or some type of
data link layer communications needs to happen to telco's switches.   The
normal settings these days is ESF / B8ZS for a T1.  When you changed the
framing to SF the line and protocol would go to up until the router realized
it wasn't seeing the "keepalives" from the switch then it would switch it to
down.  

If this is a new installation of the T1 you might want to make sure the T1
is turned up...  I'm not positive what turned up means but I think its just
telco's way of not activating the circuit until you call them and tell them
your ready to be billed for it.

Cory

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I have an old csu/dsu (rad  fcd 1 ) conected to a 7500 router. we use this
T1  to enable two of our sites to communicate point to point (all is working
at the moment). However I am trying to implement that same connection with a
2610 with a built in csu/dsu. Originally I configure the Controller on the
2610 to use ESF framing , B8ZS and PPP encapsulation.  This router was in
operation before , being used as an Internet router 
so I know the HW is good. Hower when i connected the 2610 with the new
config (wiped out old onfig when used for internet) to the TI (provided by
PAC BELL) being use on the 7500 I got some weird results. 
serial x (reset) , line prot down

Then I changed the encapsultion to HDLC ,that got rid of the reset , and
changed the framing to SF . When I changed to framing ,  i got se up, line
prot  up , then few seconds later  i did a sh int  and saw the  up , down.
I tested my controller to make sure HW is ok by connecting it to one of the
T1'S providing internet access. It worked fine , off course I had to change
to esf, b8zs and ppp.

Is it the telco who prvides us what we should use as framing, linecode and
encapsulation?  or does it depend on the csu/dsu being used.  ??? 

 

Mo Durrani
IS&T 
WYSE\EDS
phone:408-473 1246
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: CSU/DSU question

2001-02-09 Thread Ed Moss

> Is it the telco who prvides us what we should use as framing, linecode and
> encapsulation?  or does it depend on the csu/dsu being used.  ???

Telco configures the line for the proper coding.   ESF/B8ZS is the most
common, however SF/AMI is still around.  A local carrier here normally
provisions their lines (across town for example) for SF/AMI unless the
customer requests otherwise.

PPP vs. HDLC  refers to the line encapsulation, or what the routers use to
communicate.  This is independent of  the line coding (ESF/B8ZS).   If you
are talking Cisco to Cisco equipment use HDLC.If you are talking Cisco
to something else,  PPP is the way to go since Cisco's HDLC is a proprietary
implementation. (PPP is common when talking to ISP's.  Even if they have
Cisco gear because it makes PPP their standard).

Ed



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