RE: Cisco inspection fee for used gear?? [7:73788]

2003-08-14 Thread Gary Crouch
This is out right theft by the hardware venders 
You pad for the software when you bought you should be able to transfer it.
We sould demand right to transfer or buycot these companies

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From: Colin Weiner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Cisco inspection fee for used gear?? [7:73788]


Interesting article about buying used network equipment (I buy all my lab
stuff of ebay or other vendors)

http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/08/08/31FEfair_1.html


I made the mistake of showing a visiting Cisco rep the 2611 router I'd
purchased on eBay for $1,200, says Mark Payton, director of IT at the
Vermont Academy, a school in Saxtons River, Vt. Not only are they asking me
to pay to relicense the software, but they are expecting me to get a
one-year SmartNet maintenance agreement and to pay an inspection fee.


Colin
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RE: Cisco inspection fee for used gear?? [7:73788]

2003-08-14 Thread John Neiberger
There are two separate issues here. The first is the software licensing, and
I'd agree with you that if you own the router *and* have a valid license for
the software then you should be able to sell the router along with the
software license to whomever you please. Cisco feels differently and if you
use their software then you have agreed to the wording of the license that
explains their opinion and lays down the restrictions.

Secondly, you have the inspection problem and the blame for that falls
squarely on the users. For quite a while it was common for someone to buy
hardware that they *knew* was faulty, and then get cheap smartnet for it so
they could get a working replacement. Cisco finally caught on to this and we
now have to get used equipment inspected before it can be covered.

I know, it sucks, but blame those who abused the SmartNet program. This is
their fault.

John

 Gary Crouch 8/11/03 1:15:02 PM 
This is out right theft by the hardware venders 
You pad for the software when you bought you should be able to transfer it.
We sould demand right to transfer or buycot these companies

-Original Message-
From: Colin Weiner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 6:40 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Cisco inspection fee for used gear?? [7:73788]


Interesting article about buying used network equipment (I buy all my lab
stuff of ebay or other vendors)

http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/08/08/31FEfair_1.html 


I made the mistake of showing a visiting Cisco rep the 2611 router I'd
purchased on eBay for $1,200, says Mark Payton, director of IT at the
Vermont Academy, a school in Saxtons River, Vt. Not only are they asking
me
to pay to relicense the software, but they are expecting me to get a
one-year SmartNet maintenance agreement and to pay an inspection fee.


Colin
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