RE: Ethernet Frame Types. [7:60071]

2003-01-01 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
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 Hello again,
 
 Is it possible to run any other encapsulation of Ethernet on a
 Cisco
 interface other than ARPA (Ethernet_II).

With IPX, it is possible to change the Ethernet frame type. IPX supports
four different frame types. Check this out:

Albany(config)#int e0
Albany(config-if)#ipx network 400 encapsulation ?
  arpa  Novell Ethernet_II
  hdlc  HDLC on serial links
  novell-ether  Novell Ethernet_802.3
  sap   IEEE 802.2 on Ethernet, FDDI, Token Ring
  snap  IEEE 802.2 SNAP on Ethernet, Token Ring, and FDDI

AppleTalk Ph. 2 doesn't use Ethernet II either, but it's not configurable.
It uses 802.3 with 802.2 and SNAP.

A few other protocols automatically don't use Ethernet II either, such as
CDP, BPDU, NetBEUI, and IS-IS.

Of course, if you're using VLANs, you can change the Ethernet encapsulation
to 802.1q or ISL, but the real Ethernet frame is still Ethernet II if
you're using IP.

If your concern is IP, then 99.99% of IP implementations use Ethernet
II. Cisco always defaults to that. If, however, a Cisco router sees a data
stream from a host where IP uses 802.3 with 802.2, the router can handle
this. In order to make it work, you need to use the obscure arp snap
command. So, although you can't configure IP to use anything other than
Ethernet II, you can configure ARP to use SNAP for that 0.001% of cases
where a host is doing IP on top of 802.3 with 802.2.

You might enjoy my Ethernet lab scenario here:

http://www.troubleshootingnetworks.com/ethernet.html

Priscilla

 
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RE: Ethernet Frame Types. [7:60071]

2003-01-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
once again, many thx Priscilla - thats great.

-Original Message-
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 01 January 2003 21:05
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Ethernet Frame Types. [7:60071]


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hello again,
 
 Is it possible to run any other encapsulation of Ethernet on a
 Cisco
 interface other than ARPA (Ethernet_II).

With IPX, it is possible to change the Ethernet frame type. IPX supports
four different frame types. Check this out:

Albany(config)#int e0
Albany(config-if)#ipx network 400 encapsulation ?
  arpa  Novell Ethernet_II
  hdlc  HDLC on serial links
  novell-ether  Novell Ethernet_802.3
  sap   IEEE 802.2 on Ethernet, FDDI, Token Ring
  snap  IEEE 802.2 SNAP on Ethernet, Token Ring, and FDDI

AppleTalk Ph. 2 doesn't use Ethernet II either, but it's not configurable.
It uses 802.3 with 802.2 and SNAP.

A few other protocols automatically don't use Ethernet II either, such as
CDP, BPDU, NetBEUI, and IS-IS.

Of course, if you're using VLANs, you can change the Ethernet encapsulation
to 802.1q or ISL, but the real Ethernet frame is still Ethernet II if
you're using IP.

If your concern is IP, then 99.99% of IP implementations use Ethernet
II. Cisco always defaults to that. If, however, a Cisco router sees a data
stream from a host where IP uses 802.3 with 802.2, the router can handle
this. In order to make it work, you need to use the obscure arp snap
command. So, although you can't configure IP to use anything other than
Ethernet II, you can configure ARP to use SNAP for that 0.001% of cases
where a host is doing IP on top of 802.3 with 802.2.

You might enjoy my Ethernet lab scenario here:

http://www.troubleshootingnetworks.com/ethernet.html

Priscilla

 
 Many thx
 
 
 
 For more information about Barclays Capital, please
 visit our web site at http://www.barcap.com.
 
 
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 solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent
 those of the
 Barclays Group.  Replies to this email may be monitored by the
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