Jason, I know that the software is not transferable. My point is that buying a pix flash card on ebay and using the code in it is no worse then buying a router and using the code in it's flash. There are on any given day 65 pages of cisco gear out on ebay not to mention all the other resellers. Legal action would not be an effect way to handle the issue. The key on the pix install is for des functionality and I suspect was put in for export control reasons. But a similar structure would be needed to do any type of software control. Cisco must feel that the advantages of smartnet bring in a high enough percentage of the used routers to make the added headaches of software keys not justified.
Another question - If pix flash card is bought new through a cisco distributor and put into a pc instead of a pix, what is the policy? >From: "Jason Sullivan" >To: "Wes Stevens" >Subject: RE: How to get the activation key for my clone Pix? >Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 07:56:10 -0700 > >Actually if you buy a router on E-bay you don't own the software and it is >illegal. > > >Software Transfer and Licensing >Overview >Like many high-tech companies that produce software, Cisco adopts a policy >of non-transferability of its software in order to protect its intellectual >property rights. What this means in practice is that owners of Cisco >products are only allowed to transfer, re-sell or re-lease used Cisco >hardware and not the embedded software that runs on the hardware. This >policy also applies to Cisco standalone software applications. >You can find this doc at >http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/csc/refurb_equipment/swlicense.html > > >Jason Sullivan >Systems Engineer >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Office (801)270-6732 >Pager (800)365-4578 > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >----------------------- >Welcome to the Internet, Transportation provided by Cisco Systems >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >----------------------- > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Wes >Stevens >Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 5:15 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: How to get the activation key for my clone Pix? > >Is this pirating software? Cisco sells this board with the software >installed in it. This is no different then buying any other router on on >Ebay and using it without putting it on smartnet. Are you going to take >legal action against all of those people also? > >From: "Jason Sullivan" > >To: "Wes Stevens" > >Subject: RE: How to get the activation key for my clone Pix? > >Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 20:14:50 -0700 > > > > > > > >First give me a break it was just an observation. > >Second, pirating software is illegal. Read the disclaimer out on CCO. > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Wes Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 8:05 PM > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: RE: How to get the activation key for my clone Pix? > > > > > >J > > > > >From: "Jason Sullivan" > > >Reply-To: "Jason Sullivan" > > >To: "Athony Jones" , , > > > > > >Subject: RE: How to get the activation key for my clone Pix? > > >Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 17:58:32 -0700 > > > > > >You should take the 400 you spent and buy a 501. I promise it will be > >less > > >than your legal fees if Cisco were to get involved. > > > > > > > > >Jason Sullivan > > >Systems Engineer > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Office (801)270-6732 > > >Pager (800)365-4578 > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >- > > >----------------------- > > >Welcome to the Internet, Transportation provided by Cisco Systems > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >- > > >----------------------- > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > >Athony Jones > > >Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 1:02 PM > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: How to get the activation key for my clone Pix? > > > > > >Hi Everyone, > > >After struggling for the past two days, I have > > >successfully cloned a Pix firewall by using my PC. > > >I plug the 16MB flash card into the PC's ISA slot > > >and the PC recognize that it is a Pix flash card > > >(cost me $400.00). It boots up fine and everything > > >seems to be in order. However, after the boot up > > >sequence, it asks me for the activation key. I've > > >been trying many different possible scenarios without > > >much success. I even tried to use the activation key > > >from another Pix firewall but that doesn't work > > >either. > > > > > >Anybody know how I can fake my clone Pix with a > > >fake activation key? By the way,I am running Pix OS > > >code version 6.1(2). I even tried 5.3(1), 5.3(2), > > >6.0(1) and 6.1(1) and one of them works. By the way, > > >the PC has 128MB of RAM and a 16Mb Flash ISA card. > > >I tried to clone a Pix520. > > > > > >Please help. > > > > > >Jason > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > >Do You Yahoo!? > > >Yahoo! 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I suggest that before you make posts threating legal action > >against someone you make sure you know policy on the pix flash card and > >talk > >to your legal affairs. > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > >http://www.hotmail.com > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: >http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx >__________________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe from the SECURITY list, send a message to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body containing: >unsubscribe SECURITY > _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36646&t=36646 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]