RE: IP's and ISP going out of business [7:35850]

2002-02-19 Thread Hire, Ejay

Nope, not unless they buy the encompassing IP block from the Upsstream ISP,
or the out of business ISP if it is portable space.

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If a company has a block of public IP's assigned to them via their ISP, and
that ISP goes out of business, can a company transfer those IP's to a
different ISP?  I don't think so, but maybe I'm wrong.

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RE: IP's and ISP going out of business [7:35850]

2002-02-19 Thread Joseph Brunner

No. Its usually non-portable space. Unless your a really important company
like USPS that has tonnes of portable space

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Subject: IP's and ISP going out of business [7:35850]


If a company has a block of public IP's assigned to them via their ISP, and
that ISP goes out of business, can a company transfer those IP's to a
different ISP?  I don't think so, but maybe I'm wrong.

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RE: IP's and ISP going out of business [7:35850]

2002-02-19 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

>Nope, not unless they buy the encompassing IP block from the Upsstream ISP,
>or the out of business ISP if it is portable space.

ARIN won't register it if there isn't an ownership relation between 
the two ISPs.

>
>-Original Message-
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>If a company has a block of public IP's assigned to them via their ISP, and
>that ISP goes out of business, can a company transfer those IP's to a
>different ISP?  I don't think so, but maybe I'm wrong.




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RE: IP's and ISP going out of business [7:35850]

2002-02-19 Thread Jim Dixon

It occured to me that if we have an ISP or a provider
that suddenly goes out of business.  Our service will cease
at that point.
Now if I LIKE HAVING those services I would VERY quickly acquire them
from ANOTHER provider, preferring they be someone NOT in danger of ceasing 
to exist anytime during my NEW contract.
At that point I would most certainly have new circuit orders, and have
to renumber my network to match the new IP space that my new provider just
gave me.

It would be the same as discontinuing your current service and 
changing providers would it not?  When you do, you always have to renumber
your equipment that must must public addressing.  
Isn't that why Enterprises often use NAT/PAT within their network 
and number all private devices using the reserved addresses wherever
possible?

Am I still missing the point?

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>Nope, not unless they buy the encompassing IP block from the Upsstream ISP,
>or the out of business ISP if it is portable space.

ARIN won't register it if there isn't an ownership relation between 
the two ISPs.

>
>-Original Message-
>From: Steven A. Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 9:48 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: IP's and ISP going out of business [7:35850]
>
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>If a company has a block of public IP's assigned to them via their ISP, and
>that ISP goes out of business, can a company transfer those IP's to a
>different ISP?  I don't think so, but maybe I'm wrong.




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