RE: ISDN BRI Simulator Comparison - way to expensi [7:44770]

2002-05-22 Thread Dennis Laganiere

I'd agree, especially if you've got a study buddy to split the cost with...

On the other hand, the prices I found were from e-bay - so provided Cisco
doesn't drop ISDN from the lab, you can always resell the unit once you're
done and the only thing you're out is the delta in the prices and any
interest you might have lost by not investing in Enron stock... Ummm, forget
that last part... :)

--- Dennis

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Subject:RE: ISDN BRI Simulator Comparison - way to expensive!!

For that price you might as well order 2 ISDN lines from your local telco.
That should only cost you about $80.00 a month as you don't need to get ISP
service with it. You would be able to use those for 17 months until coming
up even. 

Georg Treptow

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Subject: RE: ISDN BRI Simulator Comparison


Earlier today I proposed putting together some comparative information on
the various ISDN Simulators available. Since the question "which simulator
do I buy?" comes up regularly on the list, I though a cooperative effort to
develop an answer would be an interesting exercise for the group.  Just to
start the conversation, here's a review of the two that I have in my home
pod... 

Arca Emutel Lite 
Recent e-bay sales: $1,250 - $1,400

Features:
* 2 port BRI 
* Switch types supported: NAT-1, DMS100 and 5ESS

Default settings (just because I think its useful):

PortB-channel   DN  SPID
1   1   384000  384001
1   2   384010  384002
2   1   384020  384021
2   2   384030  384022

The default ISDN switch-type is "basic-dms100"

Pro:
* Been using it for a year without a problem
* Built-in battery backup means you can use it without AC power for a quick
demonstration
* Supports either "S" (4-wire) or "U" (2-wire) interfaces (selected through
software)
* Simple console-like configuration

Con: 
* Since I'm using 2503's, it requires 2 x NT1 (approx $30 each on ebay)
* Power supply is an external brick.  Minor thing, but kind of annoying.


Teltone ILS-B-01 ISDN Demonstrator
Recent e-bay sales: $1,225 - $1,599 (New from the manufacture, $1,855.00)

Features:
* 2 port BRI
* Switch types supported: NAT-1, AT&T Custom 

Default settings (just because I think its useful):

PortB-channel   DN  SPID
1   1   835-86610835866101
1   2   835-86630835866301
2   1   835-86620835866201
2   2   835-86640835866401

The default ISDN switch-type is "basic-nil"

Pro:
* Built in power supply.
* Windows-based configuration (I haven't tried it yet, but the book makes it
look easy)

Con: 
* Since I'm using 2503's, it requires 2 x NT1 (approx $30 each on ebay)
* Only has "U" Interfaces

I look forward to seeing what other people have used...

Thanks...

--- Dennis


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Subject:ISDN BRI Simulator Comparison

This brings to mind an interesting side-project, if anybody has the time and
inclination to help out. I've not seen a comprehensive comparison between
the various simulators that are available, factoring in features and
approximate cost.  

Myself personality, I've got an Emutel Lite at home that I've had a for
while, and I just picked up a Teltone ISDN Demonstrator that I'm going to
start playing with this weekend. I could probably put together a quick write
up on those if it were a conversation that other people would like to
contribute too.

Anybody what to play?

Let me know...

--- Dennis  




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Subject:RE: ISDN BRI Simulator

Um... I'll pay $125... 

Next bidder... :)

I don't believe you'll find too many in this range, but I'd love to learn
that I'm wrong...

Thanks...

--- Dennis

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Subject:ISDN BRI Simulator

I am looking for a 2 port ISDN BRI Simulator for under $100. Does anyone 
know where I can get one?

Thanks,

Bill Cook, Network Project Manager
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RE: ISDN BRI Simulator Comparison - way to expensi [7:44770]

2002-05-23 Thread Joseph Carreira

Another thing to consider, is that you can carry this simulator with you to
set-up test scenarios and configurations on site at any location, vs. having
real ISDN lines installed at one location.

I have a Merge 2000AFP and considering it abilities and portability, it is
worth the investment, and as previously stated, when I am done I can always
re-coup most if not all of my investment by re-selling through e-bay...


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RE: ISDN BRI Simulator Comparison - way to expensi [7:44770]

2002-05-23 Thread jeff sicuranza

Try the following link...
http://www.cheapisdn.com/

for $1199 that is not bad. I may pick one up this week. I will use it for my
commercial lab I will be making available to potential CCNP/IE candidates in
the fall. Yeah, with my luck Cisco will remove it from the lab this summer.
My lab is in september...


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