Re: Inverse Mask

2000-10-24 Thread J Rowley


It represents the netmask (255.248.0.0) for the network. The easiest way  
to get from an inverse mask to a regular netmask is like this:

255.255.255.255  fill 'er up 
  - 000.007.255.255  subtract the inverse mask
---
255.248.000.000  real netmask

So, if you have a 0.7.255.255 inverse mask, it equates to 255.248.0.0.
Likewise, if you had 0.0.15.255, the mask would be 255.255.240.0.

You can also take the normal mask and get the inverse mask by doing the
opposite.

255.255.255.255
  - 255.248.000.000
---
000.007.255.255

  -j


On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, Keith Townsend wrote:

 I need help in understanding inverse masks that are used in network  access
 list commands.  I understabd what 0 and 255 do but I get confused when there
 is any number other than these two.  For example...
 
 network 10.0.0.0 0.7.255.255 area 0
 
 what does the 7 represent or specifiy for the mask.
 
 Thanks
 
 Keith
 
 
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RE: Inverse Mask

2000-10-24 Thread Chris Stocker

take 255.255.255.255 and subtract your reverse mask to get actual mask

EX
255.255.255.255
 -  0.  7.255.255

255.248.  0.  0

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I need help in understanding inverse masks that are used in network  access
list commands.  I understabd what 0 and 255 do but I get confused when there
is any number other than these two.  For example...

network 10.0.0.0 0.7.255.255 area 0

what does the 7 represent or specifiy for the mask.

Thanks

Keith


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Re: Inverse Mask

2000-10-24 Thread Donald B Johnson Jr

thanks j
never thought of it that way
used to do it the long way
Duck
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Subject: Re: Inverse Mask



 It represents the netmask (255.248.0.0) for the network. The easiest way
 to get from an inverse mask to a regular netmask is like this:

 255.255.255.255  fill 'er up
   - 000.007.255.255  subtract the inverse mask
 ---
 255.248.000.000  real netmask

 So, if you have a 0.7.255.255 inverse mask, it equates to 255.248.0.0.
 Likewise, if you had 0.0.15.255, the mask would be 255.255.240.0.

 You can also take the normal mask and get the inverse mask by doing the
 opposite.

 255.255.255.255
   - 255.248.000.000
 ---
 000.007.255.255

   -j


 On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, Keith Townsend wrote:

  I need help in understanding inverse masks that are used in network 
access
  list commands.  I understabd what 0 and 255 do but I get confused when
there
  is any number other than these two.  For example...
 
  network 10.0.0.0 0.7.255.255 area 0
 
  what does the 7 represent or specifiy for the mask.
 
  Thanks
 
  Keith
 
 
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Re: Inverse Mask

2000-10-24 Thread Billy Monroe

Do you know any shortcut to solve this kind of problem:

Implement an access list to block the odd numbers of  255.248.0.0


Thanks,

Billy
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 never thought of it that way
 used to do it the long way
 Duck
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 Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 10:44 AM
 Subject: Re: Inverse Mask


 
  It represents the netmask (255.248.0.0) for the network. The easiest way
  to get from an inverse mask to a regular netmask is like this:
 
  255.255.255.255  fill 'er up
- 000.007.255.255  subtract the inverse mask
  ---
  255.248.000.000  real netmask
 
  So, if you have a 0.7.255.255 inverse mask, it equates to 255.248.0.0.
  Likewise, if you had 0.0.15.255, the mask would be 255.255.240.0.
 
  You can also take the normal mask and get the inverse mask by doing the
  opposite.
 
  255.255.255.255
- 255.248.000.000
  ---
  000.007.255.255
 
-j
 
 
  On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, Keith Townsend wrote:
 
   I need help in understanding inverse masks that are used in network 
 access
   list commands.  I understabd what 0 and 255 do but I get confused when
 there
   is any number other than these two.  For example...
  
   network 10.0.0.0 0.7.255.255 area 0
  
   what does the 7 represent or specifiy for the mask.
  
   Thanks
  
   Keith
  
  
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Re: Inverse Mask

2000-10-24 Thread Billy Monroe

Sorry. Let me correct this:

Implement an access-list to block only the odd numbers (4th octet) of
123.12.10.x

Thanks,

Billy



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 Do you know any shortcut to solve this kind of problem:

 Implement an access list to block the odd numbers of  255.248.0.0


 Thanks,

 Billy
 ""Donald B Johnson Jr"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 018a01c03e11$a659e810$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:018a01c03e11$a659e810$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  thanks j
  never thought of it that way
  used to do it the long way
  Duck
  - Original Message -
  From: J Rowley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Keith Townsend [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 10:44 AM
  Subject: Re: Inverse Mask
 
 
  
   It represents the netmask (255.248.0.0) for the network. The easiest
way
   to get from an inverse mask to a regular netmask is like this:
  
   255.255.255.255  fill 'er up
 - 000.007.255.255  subtract the inverse mask
   ---
   255.248.000.000  real netmask
  
   So, if you have a 0.7.255.255 inverse mask, it equates to 255.248.0.0.
   Likewise, if you had 0.0.15.255, the mask would be 255.255.240.0.
  
   You can also take the normal mask and get the inverse mask by doing
the
   opposite.
  
   255.255.255.255
 - 255.248.000.000
   ---
   000.007.255.255
  
 -j
  
  
   On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, Keith Townsend wrote:
  
I need help in understanding inverse masks that are used in network

  access
list commands.  I understabd what 0 and 255 do but I get confused
when
  there
is any number other than these two.  For example...
   
network 10.0.0.0 0.7.255.255 area 0
   
what does the 7 represent or specifiy for the mask.
   
Thanks
   
Keith
   
   
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RE: Inverse Mask

2000-10-24 Thread Irwin Lazar

have a look at:

- http://www.cursos.telemidia.puc-rio.br/cursos_cce/cursotcp/CIDR-FAQ.HTM

- http://www.learntosubnet.com/

- http://www.3com.com/nsc/501302s.html

- www.itprc.com/tcp_ip.htm

In your below example, the "7" is an inverse mask for 248.  (255-7=248)

Irwin

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 Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 12:15 PM
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 Subject: Inverse Mask
 
 
 I need help in understanding inverse masks that are used in 
 network  access
 list commands.  I understabd what 0 and 255 do but I get 
 confused when there
 is any number other than these two.  For example...
 
 network 10.0.0.0 0.7.255.255 area 0
 
 what does the 7 represent or specifiy for the mask.
 
 Thanks
 
 Keith
 
 
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Re: Inverse Mask

2000-10-24 Thread Brian W.

Here's the math..

  255.255.255.255
 -mask you'd expect
---
  inverse mask

so, the 0.7.255.255 inverse mask is what you'd typically see as a 
255.248.0.0 subnet

Brian

On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, Keith Townsend wrote:

 I need help in understanding inverse masks that are used in network  access
 list commands.  I understabd what 0 and 255 do but I get confused when there
 is any number other than these two.  For example...
 
 network 10.0.0.0 0.7.255.255 area 0
 
 what does the 7 represent or specifiy for the mask.
 
 Thanks
 
 Keith
 
 
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Re: Inverse Mask

2000-10-24 Thread Jason Rowley

Hmm, the only way I know how to do that is to write a shell script and then
copy and paste the output into an access-list.

#!/bin/sh
i=1
echo "access-list 1 deny 123.12.10.$i"
while [ $i -lt 255 ]
do
i=`expr $i + 2`
echo "access-list 1 deny 123.12.10.$i"
done

[j][www][22:24:25][~]$ sh foo
access-list 1 deny 123.12.10.1
access-list 1 deny 123.12.10.3
access-list 1 deny 123.12.10.5
access-list 1 deny 123.12.10.7
...
[snip]

  -j :)

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Subject: Re: Inverse Mask


 Sorry. Let me correct this:

 Implement an access-list to block only the odd numbers (4th octet) of
 123.12.10.x

 Thanks,

 Billy



 ""Billy Monroe"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 8t52r7$2g9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8t52r7$2g9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Do you know any shortcut to solve this kind of problem:
 
  Implement an access list to block the odd numbers of  255.248.0.0
 
 
  Thanks,
 
  Billy
  ""Donald B Johnson Jr"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
  018a01c03e11$a659e810$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:018a01c03e11$a659e810$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   thanks j
   never thought of it that way
   used to do it the long way
   Duck
   - Original Message -
   From: J Rowley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Keith Townsend [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 10:44 AM
   Subject: Re: Inverse Mask
  
  
   
It represents the netmask (255.248.0.0) for the network. The easiest
 way
to get from an inverse mask to a regular netmask is like this:
   
255.255.255.255  fill 'er up
  - 000.007.255.255  subtract the inverse mask
---
255.248.000.000  real netmask
   
So, if you have a 0.7.255.255 inverse mask, it equates to
255.248.0.0.
Likewise, if you had 0.0.15.255, the mask would be 255.255.240.0.
   
You can also take the normal mask and get the inverse mask by doing
 the
opposite.
   
255.255.255.255
  - 255.248.000.000
---
000.007.255.255
   
  -j
   
   
On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, Keith Townsend wrote:
   
 I need help in understanding inverse masks that are used in
network
 
   access
 list commands.  I understabd what 0 and 255 do but I get confused
 when
   there
 is any number other than these two.  For example...

 network 10.0.0.0 0.7.255.255 area 0

 what does the 7 represent or specifiy for the mask.

 Thanks

 Keith


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Re: Inverse Mask

2000-10-24 Thread Martin-Guy Richard

0.7.255.255 is like .0111..

In that case, your mask starts where the 1's start.

MGR
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 I need help in understanding inverse masks that are used in network  access
 list commands.  I understabd what 0 and 255 do but I get confused when there
 is any number other than these two.  For example...

 network 10.0.0.0 0.7.255.255 area 0

 what does the 7 represent or specifiy for the mask.

 Thanks

 Keith

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Re: Inverse Mask

2000-10-24 Thread Brian Lodwick

Inverse masks are loopy. Just think the opposite a subnet maks. Instead of 
contiguous bit from left to right these are contiguous bits right to left.
wildcard masks and inverse masks are different.
I don't think you use inverse masks for EIGRP or IGRP though as you have 
that network statement. "network 10.0.0.0 0.7.255.255 area 0"


Brian


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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:15:10 -0500

I need help in understanding inverse masks that are used in network  
access
list commands.  I understabd what 0 and 255 do but I get confused when 
there
is any number other than these two.  For example...

network 10.0.0.0 0.7.255.255 area 0

what does the 7 represent or specifiy for the mask.

Thanks

Keith


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Re: Inverse Mask

2000-10-24 Thread Michael Fountain

Remember that with ACL masks, 1s = don't care.

so, for a mask of 0.7.255.255 you have -

  .0111..

so, when used with 10.0.0.0 -
You have to have 10 in the first octet (no ones)
It doesn't care what is in the 3rd and 4th octet (all ones)

The second octet is the one to watch.

because the mask is 0111 the first five bits have to remain as they 
are in the ip address  - 0

the last three bits can be either one or zero, doesn't matter

so, they can be anything from 000 to 111

so, your IP address can be 0 000 to 0 111

which gives you 0 - 7 in decimal

so the mask fits 10.0.0.0 to 10.7.255.255


hope that helps
Mike


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access
list commands.  I understabd what 0 and 255 do but I get confused when 
there
is any number other than these two.  For example...

network 10.0.0.0 0.7.255.255 area 0

what does the 7 represent or specifiy for the mask.

Thanks

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Re: Inverse Mask

2000-10-24 Thread Jim Erickson

How 'bout:

deny 123.12.10.1 0.0.0.254
permit any

---JRE---

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 Sorry. Let me correct this:

 Implement an access-list to block only the odd numbers (4th octet) of
 123.12.10.x

 Thanks,

 Billy



 ""Billy Monroe"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 8t52r7$2g9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8t52r7$2g9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Do you know any shortcut to solve this kind of problem:
 
  Implement an access list to block the odd numbers of  255.248.0.0
 
 
  Thanks,
 
  Billy
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  018a01c03e11$a659e810$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:018a01c03e11$a659e810$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   thanks j
   never thought of it that way
   used to do it the long way
   Duck
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   From: J Rowley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Keith Townsend [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 10:44 AM
   Subject: Re: Inverse Mask
  
  
   
It represents the netmask (255.248.0.0) for the network. The easiest
 way
to get from an inverse mask to a regular netmask is like this:
   
255.255.255.255  fill 'er up
  - 000.007.255.255  subtract the inverse mask
---
255.248.000.000  real netmask
   
So, if you have a 0.7.255.255 inverse mask, it equates to
255.248.0.0.
Likewise, if you had 0.0.15.255, the mask would be 255.255.240.0.
   
You can also take the normal mask and get the inverse mask by doing
 the
opposite.
   
255.255.255.255
  - 255.248.000.000
---
000.007.255.255
   
  -j
   
   
On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, Keith Townsend wrote:
   
 I need help in understanding inverse masks that are used in
network
 
   access
 list commands.  I understabd what 0 and 255 do but I get confused
 when
   there
 is any number other than these two.  For example...

 network 10.0.0.0 0.7.255.255 area 0

 what does the 7 represent or specifiy for the mask.

 Thanks

 Keith


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Re: Inverse Mask

2000-10-24 Thread Helena

Hi Keith,

What I find helpful is to do this for inverse masks:

Just subtract the number from 255.  So for your 7, it will be 255-7 which
is 248.

Hope that helps
Helena

On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, Keith Townsend wrote:

 I need help in understanding inverse masks that are used in network  access
 list commands.  I understabd what 0 and 255 do but I get confused when there
 is any number other than these two.  For example...
 
 network 10.0.0.0 0.7.255.255 area 0
 
 what does the 7 represent or specifiy for the mask.
 
 Thanks
 
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