Re: MPLS on existing routers [7:43414]

2002-05-06 Thread dre

2500 does not support MPLS, but it does support ISIS and BGP - 12.0.22 (4M
DRAM / 8M Flash)
2600 supports MPLS labels only (not MPLS-TE, etc) code to run would be
12.1.14 (48M DRAM, 16M Flash)

3600 supports MPLS well with:
MPLS labels - 12.0.22 (48M DRAM, 8M Flash)
MPLS, MPLS-TE - 12.1.14 (48M DRAM, 16M Flash)
MPLS, MPLS-TE, MPLS-CoS, MPLS-LDP - 12.2.8T3 (64M DRAM, 16M Flash)

According to the Cisco Software Advisor, MPLS-TE and MP-BGP are supported
on the 4000-M with 12.1.14 SERVICE PROVIDER (16M DRAM, 4M Flash), but
I have not verified this.

You can always check the Cisco Feature Navigator and/or Software Advisor
http://www.cisco.com/go/fn

Also, most production networks use 12.0ST for MPLS-TE and MPLS-VPN,
and even then, they use specialized custom code (IOS  patches) that you
cannot
download on CCO.  If you want real-world experience, you have to start there
(or go the J-brand route).

-dre

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 Folks,

 I would like to mess around with MPLS, both Traffic Engineering and MPLS
 based VPN's if possible. However, the routers I have may or may not be
able
 to do any MPLS. I've got some 2509's, a 2600, and some 4000-M's. Does
anyone
 know what code levels I would need? I can figure out the memory and flash
 requirements if I can just figure out what minimum code level to run.

 Thanks,

 Michelle




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RE: MPLS on existing routers [7:43414]

2002-05-06 Thread Sean Knox

This might help:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/rt/2600/prodlit/1575_pp.htm

Goes over some MPLS terminology and concepts as well as the product lines
needed to accomplish various roles on the MPLS network (CE, PE, P).

Sean

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 Subject: MPLS on existing routers [7:43414]


 Folks,

 I would like to mess around with MPLS, both Traffic
 Engineering and MPLS
 based VPN's if possible. However, the routers I have may or
 may not be able
 to do any MPLS. I've got some 2509's, a 2600, and some
 4000-M's. Does anyone
 know what code levels I would need? I can figure out the
 memory and flash
 requirements if I can just figure out what minimum code level to run.

 Thanks,

 Michelle
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Re: MPLS on existing routers [7:43414]

2002-05-06 Thread Sasa Milic

12.2(8)T1, telco feature set, runs on 2600 with 8MB flash and 32 MB dram.
That should be enough for MPLS.

dre wrote:
 
 2600 supports MPLS labels only (not MPLS-TE, etc) code to run would be
 12.1.14 (48M DRAM, 16M Flash)




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Re: MPLS on existing routers [7:43414]

2002-05-06 Thread Michael L. Williams

dre  wrote in message
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 Also, most production networks use 12.0ST for MPLS-TE and MPLS-VPN,
 and even then, they use specialized custom code (IOS  patches) that you
 cannot download on CCO.  If you want real-world experience, you have to
start there
 (or go the J-brand route).

I'm a dummy when it comes to MPLS, just reading the thread to learn a little
something..  Just curious, if you can't get the MPLS specialized IOS
patches on CCO, where would you get them?  (I'm picturing some d00d selling
CDs on a stree corner or a MPLS IOS warez group on the usenet... LOL)

Thanks!
Mike W.




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Re: MPLS on existing routers [7:43414]

2002-05-06 Thread Tom Scott

Sean Knox wrote:

 This might help:

 http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/rt/2600/prodlit/1575_pp.htm

 Goes over some MPLS terminology and concepts as well as the product lines
 needed to accomplish various roles on the MPLS network (CE, PE, P).

Thanks for the reference. Here's what they suggest for PE
UNI routers:
Cisco 3640 series
Cisco 3660 series
Cisco 7200 series
Cisco 7400 series
Cisco 7500 series
Cisco 1 series
Cisco 12000 series

This is for the core P routers:
Cisco 7200 series
Cisco 7500 series
Cisco 8540 series
Cisco 8650 series
Cisco 8800 series
Cisco 1 series
Cisco 12000 series

I'm wondering, how much these routers cost? If they're expensive, would
anyone have
scenarios and labs that work with the low-end routers mentioned previously
in this
thread (2500/2600) and UNI and core routers running the MPLS For Linux
software? Or is
MPLS going to be one of those technologies like ATM that poor folks like me
can't
afford?

Even if it's possible to build an affordable hybrid lab from Cisco and Linux
platforms,
we'll still need a scenario builder to develop and market the product. Hint
hint.

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