Re: OSPF: Flooding LSU/LSA [7:10803]

2001-07-03 Thread Peter Van Oene

The standard procedure when receiving a valid LSA is to retransmit that LSA
out a set of interfaces.  However, section 13.3 of RFC 2328 describes a list
of numerous caveats.  One of those is that should you receive an LSA that in
all probability was successfully received by other routers out a particular
interface, there is no need to retransmit it.  This applies particularly
when you are not the DR or BDR and you receive an LSA from the DR. The
standardized procedure is not to retransmit that LSA out the receiving
interface.  However, that LSA is retransmitted out of all other interfaces
that do not conflict the with noted caveats in 13.3.

As far as examples go, the DR sends to the rest of the broadcast segment as
it is adjacent to all.  Each of those routers in turn flood out whatever
other transit interfaces they possess excluding the one where the LSA was
received.

Does that help?

Pete
  

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On 7/3/2001 at 9:42 AM Ole Drews Jensen wrote:

 I am currently reading the CiscoPress BSCN book, and I find myself a bit
 confused on the LSU/LSA procedures in OSPF.
 
 When many routers are connected on the same LAN segment, and are
therefore
 neighbors to eachother, a DR and a BDR will be elected.
 
 First they write that routers do not flood OSPF updates/advertisements to
 all the OSPF routers (224.0.0.5), but only to the DR OSPF routers
 (224.0.0.6). It is then the task of the DR(s) to flood whatever needs to
 be flooded to all the routers.
 
 However, a little later in the book, they tell me that when a router
 receives an update from a DR router, it will flood it to all routers.
 
 They also write that when a router receives an update, it will flood it
to
 all DR OSPF routers on other connected LAN segments.
 
 Can someone give me a simple explanation on who sends what to where?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Ole
 
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RE: OSPF: Flooding LSU/LSA [7:10803]

2001-07-03 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

So it kind of boils down to this: If we look at only one network, routers
send lsu/lsa to only the DR/BDR, and the DR/BDR then send to all OSPF
routers.

Example 1:

Router A = DROTHER
Router B = DROTHER
Router C = DR
Router D = DROTHER
Router E = BDR

1) Router A sends LSU/LSA to C  E (224.0.0.6)
2) DR sends the LSU/LSA to A,B,C,D  E (224.0.0.5)

If Router B is connected to another OSPF network on one of its other
interfaces, the following will happen:

3) Router B sends LSU/LSA to the DR/BDR routers of that network
(224.0.0.6)
4) The DR of that network sends the LSU/LSA to all OSPF routers on
that network (224.0.0.5)

Am I right, or would this be to simplify it too much, or am I completely off
the track???

Thanks,

Ole

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-Original Message-
From: Peter Van Oene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 1:57 PM
To: Ole Drews Jensen; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OSPF: Flooding LSU/LSA [7:10803]


The standard procedure when receiving a valid LSA is to retransmit that LSA
out a set of interfaces.  However, section 13.3 of RFC 2328 describes a list
of numerous caveats.  One of those is that should you receive an LSA that in
all probability was successfully received by other routers out a particular
interface, there is no need to retransmit it.  This applies particularly
when you are not the DR or BDR and you receive an LSA from the DR. The
standardized procedure is not to retransmit that LSA out the receiving
interface.  However, that LSA is retransmitted out of all other interfaces
that do not conflict the with noted caveats in 13.3. 

As far as examples go, the DR sends to the rest of the broadcast segment as
it is adjacent to all.  Each of those routers in turn flood out whatever
other transit interfaces they possess excluding the one where the LSA was
received.

Does that help?

Pete
  

*** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***

On 7/3/2001 at 9:42 AM Ole Drews Jensen wrote:

 I am currently reading the CiscoPress BSCN book, and I find myself a bit
 confused on the LSU/LSA procedures in OSPF.
 
 When many routers are connected on the same LAN segment, and are
therefore
 neighbors to eachother, a DR and a BDR will be elected.
 
 First they write that routers do not flood OSPF updates/advertisements to
 all the OSPF routers (224.0.0.5), but only to the DR OSPF routers
 (224.0.0.6). It is then the task of the DR(s) to flood whatever needs to
 be flooded to all the routers.
 
 However, a little later in the book, they tell me that when a router
 receives an update from a DR router, it will flood it to all routers.
 
 They also write that when a router receives an update, it will flood it
to
 all DR OSPF routers on other connected LAN segments.
 
 Can someone give me a simple explanation on who sends what to where?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Ole
 
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RE: OSPF: Flooding LSU/LSA [7:10803]

2001-07-03 Thread Peter Van Oene

This looks good.  Keep in mind that the BDR does not transmit LSA's however,
unless the DR fails to do so.

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On 7/3/2001 at 2:08 PM Ole Drews Jensen wrote:

So it kind of boils down to this: If we look at only one network, routers
send lsu/lsa to only the DR/BDR, and the DR/BDR then send to all OSPF
routers.

Example 1:

   Router A = DROTHER
   Router B = DROTHER
   Router C = DR
   Router D = DROTHER
   Router E = BDR

   1) Router A sends LSU/LSA to C  E (224.0.0.6)
   2) DR sends the LSU/LSA to A,B,C,D  E (224.0.0.5)

If Router B is connected to another OSPF network on one of its other
interfaces, the following will happen:

   3) Router B sends LSU/LSA to the DR/BDR routers of that network
(224.0.0.6)
   4) The DR of that network sends the LSU/LSA to all OSPF routers on
that network (224.0.0.5)

Am I right, or would this be to simplify it too much, or am I completely
off
the track???

Thanks,

Ole

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-Original Message-
From: Peter Van Oene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 1:57 PM
To: Ole Drews Jensen; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OSPF: Flooding LSU/LSA [7:10803]


The standard procedure when receiving a valid LSA is to retransmit that LSA
out a set of interfaces.  However, section 13.3 of RFC 2328 describes a
list
of numerous caveats.  One of those is that should you receive an LSA that
in
all probability was successfully received by other routers out a particular
interface, there is no need to retransmit it.  This applies particularly
when you are not the DR or BDR and you receive an LSA from the DR. The
standardized procedure is not to retransmit that LSA out the receiving
interface.  However, that LSA is retransmitted out of all other interfaces
that do not conflict the with noted caveats in 13.3. 

As far as examples go, the DR sends to the rest of the broadcast segment as
it is adjacent to all.  Each of those routers in turn flood out whatever
other transit interfaces they possess excluding the one where the LSA was
received.

Does that help?

Pete
  

*** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***

On 7/3/2001 at 9:42 AM Ole Drews Jensen wrote:

 I am currently reading the CiscoPress BSCN book, and I find myself a bit
 confused on the LSU/LSA procedures in OSPF.
 
 When many routers are connected on the same LAN segment, and are
therefore
 neighbors to eachother, a DR and a BDR will be elected.
 
 First they write that routers do not flood OSPF updates/advertisements
to
 all the OSPF routers (224.0.0.5), but only to the DR OSPF routers
 (224.0.0.6). It is then the task of the DR(s) to flood whatever needs to
 be flooded to all the routers.
 
 However, a little later in the book, they tell me that when a router
 receives an update from a DR router, it will flood it to all routers.
 
 They also write that when a router receives an update, it will flood it
to
 all DR OSPF routers on other connected LAN segments.
 
 Can someone give me a simple explanation on who sends what to where?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Ole
 
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  CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
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RE: OSPF: Flooding LSU/LSA [7:10803]

2001-07-03 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

Thanks Peter,

Ole

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-Original Message-
From: Peter Van Oene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 2:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OSPF: Flooding LSU/LSA [7:10803]


This looks good.  Keep in mind that the BDR does not transmit LSA's however,
unless the DR fails to do so.

*** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***

On 7/3/2001 at 2:08 PM Ole Drews Jensen wrote:

So it kind of boils down to this: If we look at only one network, routers
send lsu/lsa to only the DR/BDR, and the DR/BDR then send to all OSPF
routers.

Example 1:

   Router A = DROTHER
   Router B = DROTHER
   Router C = DR
   Router D = DROTHER
   Router E = BDR

   1) Router A sends LSU/LSA to C  E (224.0.0.6)
   2) DR sends the LSU/LSA to A,B,C,D  E (224.0.0.5)

If Router B is connected to another OSPF network on one of its other
interfaces, the following will happen:

   3) Router B sends LSU/LSA to the DR/BDR routers of that network
(224.0.0.6)
   4) The DR of that network sends the LSU/LSA to all OSPF routers on
that network (224.0.0.5)

Am I right, or would this be to simplify it too much, or am I completely
off
the track???

Thanks,

Ole

~~~
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 Systems Network Manager
 CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
 RWR Enterprises, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 http://www.OleDrews.com/CCNP
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-Original Message-
From: Peter Van Oene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 1:57 PM
To: Ole Drews Jensen; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OSPF: Flooding LSU/LSA [7:10803]


The standard procedure when receiving a valid LSA is to retransmit that LSA
out a set of interfaces.  However, section 13.3 of RFC 2328 describes a
list
of numerous caveats.  One of those is that should you receive an LSA that
in
all probability was successfully received by other routers out a particular
interface, there is no need to retransmit it.  This applies particularly
when you are not the DR or BDR and you receive an LSA from the DR. The
standardized procedure is not to retransmit that LSA out the receiving
interface.  However, that LSA is retransmitted out of all other interfaces
that do not conflict the with noted caveats in 13.3. 

As far as examples go, the DR sends to the rest of the broadcast segment as
it is adjacent to all.  Each of those routers in turn flood out whatever
other transit interfaces they possess excluding the one where the LSA was
received.

Does that help?

Pete
  

*** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***

On 7/3/2001 at 9:42 AM Ole Drews Jensen wrote:

 I am currently reading the CiscoPress BSCN book, and I find myself a bit
 confused on the LSU/LSA procedures in OSPF.
 
 When many routers are connected on the same LAN segment, and are
therefore
 neighbors to eachother, a DR and a BDR will be elected.
 
 First they write that routers do not flood OSPF updates/advertisements
to
 all the OSPF routers (224.0.0.5), but only to the DR OSPF routers
 (224.0.0.6). It is then the task of the DR(s) to flood whatever needs to
 be flooded to all the routers.
 
 However, a little later in the book, they tell me that when a router
 receives an update from a DR router, it will flood it to all routers.
 
 They also write that when a router receives an update, it will flood it
to
 all DR OSPF routers on other connected LAN segments.
 
 Can someone give me a simple explanation on who sends what to where?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Ole
 
 ~~~
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  Systems Network Manager
  CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ~~~ 
  http://www.OleDrews.com/CCNP
 ~~~
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