Re: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613]

2001-05-01 Thread Stephen Skinner

the next new kid on the block will be ...


foundextrmcisc plc

they are ,,as we speak producing a combined layer 1,2,3,4,5 box that will 
revolutionise the network indusrty
an insider said

 in theory this device will have no practical application whatsoeverwe 
are very excited by this 

so far they have managed Not to router somewhere in the region of 15 billion 
PPS,with QOS TOS SOS MPLS MLS CEF all running in parrallel on it`s 49 
proccessors...

the current retail price will be 4.5 billion Dollars.

Microsoft,compaq,oracle have all placed pre-orders

a microsoft spokesman said
 well sod it ...we have more money than sence so will buy one,and then brag 
about it to all of you...Hahahahaha

i myself have started on there certification track..18 
exams..CCNA/equivilantthen onto the 4 week lab ...i`m told you are 
blindfolded ...have both your arms broken ...and have to configure a 25 
router SNA network in the dark with 1 ip address...

i can`t wait

steve




From: Allen May 
Reply-To: Allen May 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613]
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 17:02:24 -0400

You know how everything follows a cycle and repeats?  I think I'm gonna 
find
a DOS certification and go for that before the rush hits ;)  Maybe WFW will
come back in a 64-bit, unbloated version and be the best O/S ever.  Hmmm.
;)

- Original Message -
From: ccnawan
To:
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 3:40 PM
Subject: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613]


  Hi all,
  A few days ago there was a thread about the value of cisco certs, and 
how
  they were a lot of people pursuing them now.
  My first recollection of IT, was when Big Blue was King, my oldest 
brother
  would bring some of the IBM computer punch cards home from his job. 
Nobody
  could touch IBM then. That was still true when I started out in IT in
1981.
  A couple years later the new kid on the block was Novell Netware, and
  everybody including me wanted to be a CNE. I pursued my Netware certs.
Then,
  we started hearing rumblings about Microsoft NT. You had to be a MCSE, 
if
  you did you could name your price, and that was true. As it was when
Netware
  2.1 first came out nobody knew about NT, so I followed the new kid and 
got
a
  job in a NT shop. Well, now it is Cisco, no disrespect, I am a (Cisco
  reseller) and a few years as technology changes, it will be someone else
  maybe Juniper.
 
  After 20 years in IT nothing has changed, you must be prepared to learn
new
  technology, keep your ear to the ground for the new kid on the block, he
is
  coming soon, to a neighborhood near you.. I love computers.
 
  Dan Evensen CCNAWS CNS
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Re: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613]

2001-05-01 Thread Will Doyle

Hi,
I think the one major difference between Cisco certs and the others you
mention are the others are vendor specific.
Cisco's certs deal with many RFC based technologies (to many to mention)
that are used by almost every Networking Vendor out there.
Although their are definite slants on some Cisco products the overall
understanding, knowledge, and experiences you get from obtaining the Cisco
certifications can be applied to almost any Network.
I bet they won't have as good an interface though!!


ccnawan  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Hi all,
 A few days ago there was a thread about the value of cisco certs, and how
 they were a lot of people pursuing them now.
 My first recollection of IT, was when Big Blue was King, my oldest brother
 would bring some of the IBM computer punch cards home from his job. Nobody
 could touch IBM then. That was still true when I started out in IT in
1981.
 A couple years later the new kid on the block was Novell Netware, and
 everybody including me wanted to be a CNE. I pursued my Netware certs.
Then,
 we started hearing rumblings about Microsoft NT. You had to be a MCSE, if
 you did you could name your price, and that was true. As it was when
Netware
 2.1 first came out nobody knew about NT, so I followed the new kid and got
a
 job in a NT shop. Well, now it is Cisco, no disrespect, I am a (Cisco
 reseller) and a few years as technology changes, it will be someone else
 maybe Juniper.

 After 20 years in IT nothing has changed, you must be prepared to learn
new
 technology, keep your ear to the ground for the new kid on the block, he
is
 coming soon, to a neighborhood near you.. I love computers.

 Dan Evensen CCNAWS CNS
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RE: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613]

2001-05-01 Thread Brian

Eventually auto config will work and we'll need to do something else.
Cisco's config dealie already makes it easier..

Brian Sonic Whalen
Success = Preparation + Opportunity


On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Chuck Larrieu wrote:

 My HOPE would be self configuring end devices and possibly even self
 configuring internal ( not edge ) routers.

 My belief is IPv6 and the nightmare that will probably be. Should keep a
LOT
 of us in clover for several years :-

 Chuck




 -Original Message-
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 Louie
 Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 2:14 PM
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 Subject:  Re: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613]

 nice Dan, thanks for the walk down memory lane, for reminding us that this
 is temporary.

 and now listmembers... (drumroll please) ... who is YOUR guess for the next
 new kid on the block?

 -e-
 - Original Message -
 From: ccnawan
 To:
 Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 1:40 PM
 Subject: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613]


  Hi all,
  A few days ago there was a thread about the value of cisco certs, and how
  they were a lot of people pursuing them now.
  My first recollection of IT, was when Big Blue was King, my oldest
brother
  would bring some of the IBM computer punch cards home from his job.
Nobody
  could touch IBM then. That was still true when I started out in IT in
 1981.
  A couple years later the new kid on the block was Novell Netware, and
  everybody including me wanted to be a CNE. I pursued my Netware certs.
 Then,
  we started hearing rumblings about Microsoft NT. You had to be a MCSE, if
  you did you could name your price, and that was true. As it was when
 Netware
  2.1 first came out nobody knew about NT, so I followed the new kid and
got
 a
  job in a NT shop. Well, now it is Cisco, no disrespect, I am a (Cisco
  reseller) and a few years as technology changes, it will be someone else
  maybe Juniper.
 
  After 20 years in IT nothing has changed, you must be prepared to learn
 new
  technology, keep your ear to the ground for the new kid on the block, he
 is
  coming soon, to a neighborhood near you.. I love computers.
 
  Dan Evensen CCNAWS CNS
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Re: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613]

2001-05-01 Thread Brian

Wired magazine has useful content now?  I looked at a few issues, was very
impressed with the print and image quality, but thought the content was
gossip level..


Brian Sonic Whalen
Success = Preparation + Opportunity


On Tue, 1 May 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Actually its Caspian Networks. i got the name wrong. The may issue of Wired
 Magazine has the article describing it. n-dimension switching and talks
 about
 a smart core that has peta bit capabilities. Still in the design phase, but
 thats how they all start.

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Re: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613]

2001-05-01 Thread El Pingu

i concur with what doyle has said .
i mainly work with cisco stuff..but surprisingly i have learned bay
(enough to get into trouble) failry easy in a matter of 3 weeks.

a good foundation is essential
 
 

ccnawan wrote:

  Hi all,
  A few days ago there was a thread about the value of cisco certs, and
  how
  they were a lot of people pursuing them now.
  My first recollection of IT, was when Big Blue was King, my oldest
  brother
  would bring some of the IBM computer punch cards home from his job.
  Nobody
  could touch IBM then. That was still true when I started out in IT in
  1981.
  A couple years later the new kid on the block was Novell Netware, and
  everybody including me wanted to be a CNE. I pursued my Netware
  certs. Then,
  we started hearing rumblings about Microsoft NT. You had to be a
  MCSE, if
  you did you could name your price, and that was true. As it was when
  Netware
  2.1 first came out nobody knew about NT, so I followed the new kid
  and got a
  job in a NT shop. Well, now it is Cisco, no disrespect, I am a (Cisco
  reseller) and a few years as technology changes, it will be someone
  else
  maybe Juniper.

  After 20 years in IT nothing has changed, you must be prepared to
  learn new
  technology, keep your ear to the ground for the new kid on the block,
  he is
  coming soon, to a neighborhood near you.. I love computers.

  Dan Evensen CCNAWS CNS
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Re: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613]

2001-04-30 Thread Allen May

You know how everything follows a cycle and repeats?  I think I'm gonna find
a DOS certification and go for that before the rush hits ;)  Maybe WFW will
come back in a 64-bit, unbloated version and be the best O/S ever.  Hmmm.
;)

- Original Message -
From: ccnawan 
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 3:40 PM
Subject: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613]


 Hi all,
 A few days ago there was a thread about the value of cisco certs, and how
 they were a lot of people pursuing them now.
 My first recollection of IT, was when Big Blue was King, my oldest brother
 would bring some of the IBM computer punch cards home from his job. Nobody
 could touch IBM then. That was still true when I started out in IT in
1981.
 A couple years later the new kid on the block was Novell Netware, and
 everybody including me wanted to be a CNE. I pursued my Netware certs.
Then,
 we started hearing rumblings about Microsoft NT. You had to be a MCSE, if
 you did you could name your price, and that was true. As it was when
Netware
 2.1 first came out nobody knew about NT, so I followed the new kid and got
a
 job in a NT shop. Well, now it is Cisco, no disrespect, I am a (Cisco
 reseller) and a few years as technology changes, it will be someone else
 maybe Juniper.

 After 20 years in IT nothing has changed, you must be prepared to learn
new
 technology, keep your ear to the ground for the new kid on the block, he
is
 coming soon, to a neighborhood near you.. I love computers.

 Dan Evensen CCNAWS CNS
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Re: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613]

2001-04-30 Thread EA Louie

nice Dan, thanks for the walk down memory lane, for reminding us that this
is temporary.

and now listmembers... (drumroll please) ... who is YOUR guess for the next
new kid on the block?

-e-
- Original Message -
From: ccnawan 
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 1:40 PM
Subject: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613]


 Hi all,
 A few days ago there was a thread about the value of cisco certs, and how
 they were a lot of people pursuing them now.
 My first recollection of IT, was when Big Blue was King, my oldest brother
 would bring some of the IBM computer punch cards home from his job. Nobody
 could touch IBM then. That was still true when I started out in IT in
1981.
 A couple years later the new kid on the block was Novell Netware, and
 everybody including me wanted to be a CNE. I pursued my Netware certs.
Then,
 we started hearing rumblings about Microsoft NT. You had to be a MCSE, if
 you did you could name your price, and that was true. As it was when
Netware
 2.1 first came out nobody knew about NT, so I followed the new kid and got
a
 job in a NT shop. Well, now it is Cisco, no disrespect, I am a (Cisco
 reseller) and a few years as technology changes, it will be someone else
 maybe Juniper.

 After 20 years in IT nothing has changed, you must be prepared to learn
new
 technology, keep your ear to the ground for the new kid on the block, he
is
 coming soon, to a neighborhood near you.. I love computers.

 Dan Evensen CCNAWS CNS
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RE: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613]

2001-04-30 Thread Chuck Larrieu

My HOPE would be self configuring end devices and possibly even self
configuring internal ( not edge ) routers.

My belief is IPv6 and the nightmare that will probably be. Should keep a LOT
of us in clover for several years :-

Chuck




-Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of EA
Louie
Sent:   Monday, April 30, 2001 2:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613]

nice Dan, thanks for the walk down memory lane, for reminding us that this
is temporary.

and now listmembers... (drumroll please) ... who is YOUR guess for the next
new kid on the block?

-e-
- Original Message -
From: ccnawan
To:
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 1:40 PM
Subject: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613]


 Hi all,
 A few days ago there was a thread about the value of cisco certs, and how
 they were a lot of people pursuing them now.
 My first recollection of IT, was when Big Blue was King, my oldest brother
 would bring some of the IBM computer punch cards home from his job. Nobody
 could touch IBM then. That was still true when I started out in IT in
1981.
 A couple years later the new kid on the block was Novell Netware, and
 everybody including me wanted to be a CNE. I pursued my Netware certs.
Then,
 we started hearing rumblings about Microsoft NT. You had to be a MCSE, if
 you did you could name your price, and that was true. As it was when
Netware
 2.1 first came out nobody knew about NT, so I followed the new kid and got
a
 job in a NT shop. Well, now it is Cisco, no disrespect, I am a (Cisco
 reseller) and a few years as technology changes, it will be someone else
 maybe Juniper.

 After 20 years in IT nothing has changed, you must be prepared to learn
new
 technology, keep your ear to the ground for the new kid on the block, he
is
 coming soon, to a neighborhood near you.. I love computers.

 Dan Evensen CCNAWS CNS
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RE: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613]

2001-04-30 Thread Daniel Cotts

Specific companies have been mentioned but really they represented enabling
technologies. Each was first or best or best at marketing. Each offered
something that gained wide useage. So what is the next killer app or
service? Who will provide it?

 -Original Message-
 From: EA Louie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 4:14 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block 
 (CIsco) [7:2613]
 
 
 nice Dan, thanks for the walk down memory lane, for reminding 
 us that this
 is temporary.
 
 and now listmembers... (drumroll please) ... who is YOUR 
 guess for the next
 new kid on the block?
 
 -e-
 - Original Message -
 From: ccnawan 
 To: 
 Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 1:40 PM
 Subject: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613]
 
 
  Hi all,
  A few days ago there was a thread about the value of cisco 
 certs, and how
  they were a lot of people pursuing them now.
  My first recollection of IT, was when Big Blue was King, my 
 oldest brother
  would bring some of the IBM computer punch cards home from 
 his job. Nobody
  could touch IBM then. That was still true when I started 
 out in IT in
 1981.
  A couple years later the new kid on the block was Novell 
 Netware, and
  everybody including me wanted to be a CNE. I pursued my 
 Netware certs.
 Then,
  we started hearing rumblings about Microsoft NT. You had to 
 be a MCSE, if
  you did you could name your price, and that was true. As it was when
 Netware
  2.1 first came out nobody knew about NT, so I followed the 
 new kid and got
 a
  job in a NT shop. Well, now it is Cisco, no disrespect, I 
 am a (Cisco
  reseller) and a few years as technology changes, it will be 
 someone else
  maybe Juniper.
 
  After 20 years in IT nothing has changed, you must be 
 prepared to learn
 new
  technology, keep your ear to the ground for the new kid on 
 the block, he
 is
  coming soon, to a neighborhood near you.. I love computers.
 
  Dan Evensen CCNAWS CNS
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Re: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613]

2001-04-30 Thread No Data

I see the next 'killer app' being VoIP (and just
deploying one set of wires) and also Multicast audio
and blackboard applications.  Cisco looks well
positioned to help with both of those.

Ben

--- EA Louie  wrote:
 nice Dan, thanks for the walk down memory lane, for
 reminding us that this
 is temporary.
 
 and now listmembers... (drumroll please) ... who is
 YOUR guess for the next
 new kid on the block?
 
 -e-
 - Original Message -
 From: ccnawan 
 To: 
 Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 1:40 PM
 Subject: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block
 (CIsco) [7:2613]
 
 
  Hi all,
  A few days ago there was a thread about the value
 of cisco certs, and how
  they were a lot of people pursuing them now.
  My first recollection of IT, was when Big Blue was
 King, my oldest brother
  would bring some of the IBM computer punch cards
 home from his job. Nobody
  could touch IBM then. That was still true when I
 started out in IT in
 1981.
  A couple years later the new kid on the block was
 Novell Netware, and
  everybody including me wanted to be a CNE. I
 pursued my Netware certs.
 Then,
  we started hearing rumblings about Microsoft NT.
 You had to be a MCSE, if
  you did you could name your price, and that was
 true. As it was when
 Netware
  2.1 first came out nobody knew about NT, so I
 followed the new kid and got
 a
  job in a NT shop. Well, now it is Cisco, no
 disrespect, I am a (Cisco
  reseller) and a few years as technology changes,
 it will be someone else
  maybe Juniper.
 
  After 20 years in IT nothing has changed, you must
 be prepared to learn
 new
  technology, keep your ear to the ground for the
 new kid on the block, he
 is
  coming soon, to a neighborhood near you.. I love
 computers.
 
  Dan Evensen CCNAWS CNS
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Re: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613]

2001-04-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The new kid on the block will be Caspian Systems.

Joe Gearhart,CCNP




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RE: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613]

2001-04-30 Thread William E. Gragido

Caspian Systems???  Can you elaborate a little?

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The new kid on the block will be Caspian Systems.

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Re: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613]

2001-04-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Actually its Caspian Networks. i got the name wrong. The may issue of Wired 
Magazine has the article describing it. n-dimension switching and talks
about
a smart core that has peta bit capabilities. Still in the design phase, but 
thats how they all start.

joe gearhart CCNP




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Re: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613]

2001-04-30 Thread Control Program

On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 12:32:21AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Magazine has the article describing it. n-dimension switching and talks
 about a smart core that has peta bit capabilities. Still in the design
 phase, but thats how they all start.

...and how most of them end.


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