Re: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613]
the next new kid on the block will be ... foundextrmcisc plc they are ,,as we speak producing a combined layer 1,2,3,4,5 box that will revolutionise the network indusrty an insider said in theory this device will have no practical application whatsoeverwe are very excited by this so far they have managed Not to router somewhere in the region of 15 billion PPS,with QOS TOS SOS MPLS MLS CEF all running in parrallel on it`s 49 proccessors... the current retail price will be 4.5 billion Dollars. Microsoft,compaq,oracle have all placed pre-orders a microsoft spokesman said well sod it ...we have more money than sence so will buy one,and then brag about it to all of you...Hahahahaha i myself have started on there certification track..18 exams..CCNA/equivilantthen onto the 4 week lab ...i`m told you are blindfolded ...have both your arms broken ...and have to configure a 25 router SNA network in the dark with 1 ip address... i can`t wait steve From: Allen May Reply-To: Allen May To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613] Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 17:02:24 -0400 You know how everything follows a cycle and repeats? I think I'm gonna find a DOS certification and go for that before the rush hits ;) Maybe WFW will come back in a 64-bit, unbloated version and be the best O/S ever. Hmmm. ;) - Original Message - From: ccnawan To: Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 3:40 PM Subject: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613] Hi all, A few days ago there was a thread about the value of cisco certs, and how they were a lot of people pursuing them now. My first recollection of IT, was when Big Blue was King, my oldest brother would bring some of the IBM computer punch cards home from his job. Nobody could touch IBM then. That was still true when I started out in IT in 1981. A couple years later the new kid on the block was Novell Netware, and everybody including me wanted to be a CNE. I pursued my Netware certs. Then, we started hearing rumblings about Microsoft NT. You had to be a MCSE, if you did you could name your price, and that was true. As it was when Netware 2.1 first came out nobody knew about NT, so I followed the new kid and got a job in a NT shop. Well, now it is Cisco, no disrespect, I am a (Cisco reseller) and a few years as technology changes, it will be someone else maybe Juniper. After 20 years in IT nothing has changed, you must be prepared to learn new technology, keep your ear to the ground for the new kid on the block, he is coming soon, to a neighborhood near you.. I love computers. Dan Evensen CCNAWS CNS FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=2720t=2613 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613]
Hi, I think the one major difference between Cisco certs and the others you mention are the others are vendor specific. Cisco's certs deal with many RFC based technologies (to many to mention) that are used by almost every Networking Vendor out there. Although their are definite slants on some Cisco products the overall understanding, knowledge, and experiences you get from obtaining the Cisco certifications can be applied to almost any Network. I bet they won't have as good an interface though!! ccnawan wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi all, A few days ago there was a thread about the value of cisco certs, and how they were a lot of people pursuing them now. My first recollection of IT, was when Big Blue was King, my oldest brother would bring some of the IBM computer punch cards home from his job. Nobody could touch IBM then. That was still true when I started out in IT in 1981. A couple years later the new kid on the block was Novell Netware, and everybody including me wanted to be a CNE. I pursued my Netware certs. Then, we started hearing rumblings about Microsoft NT. You had to be a MCSE, if you did you could name your price, and that was true. As it was when Netware 2.1 first came out nobody knew about NT, so I followed the new kid and got a job in a NT shop. Well, now it is Cisco, no disrespect, I am a (Cisco reseller) and a few years as technology changes, it will be someone else maybe Juniper. After 20 years in IT nothing has changed, you must be prepared to learn new technology, keep your ear to the ground for the new kid on the block, he is coming soon, to a neighborhood near you.. I love computers. Dan Evensen CCNAWS CNS FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=2723t=2613 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613]
Eventually auto config will work and we'll need to do something else. Cisco's config dealie already makes it easier.. Brian Sonic Whalen Success = Preparation + Opportunity On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Chuck Larrieu wrote: My HOPE would be self configuring end devices and possibly even self configuring internal ( not edge ) routers. My belief is IPv6 and the nightmare that will probably be. Should keep a LOT of us in clover for several years :- Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of EA Louie Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 2:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613] nice Dan, thanks for the walk down memory lane, for reminding us that this is temporary. and now listmembers... (drumroll please) ... who is YOUR guess for the next new kid on the block? -e- - Original Message - From: ccnawan To: Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 1:40 PM Subject: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613] Hi all, A few days ago there was a thread about the value of cisco certs, and how they were a lot of people pursuing them now. My first recollection of IT, was when Big Blue was King, my oldest brother would bring some of the IBM computer punch cards home from his job. Nobody could touch IBM then. That was still true when I started out in IT in 1981. A couple years later the new kid on the block was Novell Netware, and everybody including me wanted to be a CNE. I pursued my Netware certs. Then, we started hearing rumblings about Microsoft NT. You had to be a MCSE, if you did you could name your price, and that was true. As it was when Netware 2.1 first came out nobody knew about NT, so I followed the new kid and got a job in a NT shop. Well, now it is Cisco, no disrespect, I am a (Cisco reseller) and a few years as technology changes, it will be someone else maybe Juniper. After 20 years in IT nothing has changed, you must be prepared to learn new technology, keep your ear to the ground for the new kid on the block, he is coming soon, to a neighborhood near you.. I love computers. Dan Evensen CCNAWS CNS FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=2771t=2613 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613]
Wired magazine has useful content now? I looked at a few issues, was very impressed with the print and image quality, but thought the content was gossip level.. Brian Sonic Whalen Success = Preparation + Opportunity On Tue, 1 May 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually its Caspian Networks. i got the name wrong. The may issue of Wired Magazine has the article describing it. n-dimension switching and talks about a smart core that has peta bit capabilities. Still in the design phase, but thats how they all start. joe gearhart CCNP FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=2779t=2613 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613]
i concur with what doyle has said . i mainly work with cisco stuff..but surprisingly i have learned bay (enough to get into trouble) failry easy in a matter of 3 weeks. a good foundation is essential ccnawan wrote: Hi all, A few days ago there was a thread about the value of cisco certs, and how they were a lot of people pursuing them now. My first recollection of IT, was when Big Blue was King, my oldest brother would bring some of the IBM computer punch cards home from his job. Nobody could touch IBM then. That was still true when I started out in IT in 1981. A couple years later the new kid on the block was Novell Netware, and everybody including me wanted to be a CNE. I pursued my Netware certs. Then, we started hearing rumblings about Microsoft NT. You had to be a MCSE, if you did you could name your price, and that was true. As it was when Netware 2.1 first came out nobody knew about NT, so I followed the new kid and got a job in a NT shop. Well, now it is Cisco, no disrespect, I am a (Cisco reseller) and a few years as technology changes, it will be someone else maybe Juniper. After 20 years in IT nothing has changed, you must be prepared to learn new technology, keep your ear to the ground for the new kid on the block, he is coming soon, to a neighborhood near you.. I love computers. Dan Evensen CCNAWS CNS FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=2852t=2613 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613]
You know how everything follows a cycle and repeats? I think I'm gonna find a DOS certification and go for that before the rush hits ;) Maybe WFW will come back in a 64-bit, unbloated version and be the best O/S ever. Hmmm. ;) - Original Message - From: ccnawan To: Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 3:40 PM Subject: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613] Hi all, A few days ago there was a thread about the value of cisco certs, and how they were a lot of people pursuing them now. My first recollection of IT, was when Big Blue was King, my oldest brother would bring some of the IBM computer punch cards home from his job. Nobody could touch IBM then. That was still true when I started out in IT in 1981. A couple years later the new kid on the block was Novell Netware, and everybody including me wanted to be a CNE. I pursued my Netware certs. Then, we started hearing rumblings about Microsoft NT. You had to be a MCSE, if you did you could name your price, and that was true. As it was when Netware 2.1 first came out nobody knew about NT, so I followed the new kid and got a job in a NT shop. Well, now it is Cisco, no disrespect, I am a (Cisco reseller) and a few years as technology changes, it will be someone else maybe Juniper. After 20 years in IT nothing has changed, you must be prepared to learn new technology, keep your ear to the ground for the new kid on the block, he is coming soon, to a neighborhood near you.. I love computers. Dan Evensen CCNAWS CNS FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=2621t=2613 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613]
nice Dan, thanks for the walk down memory lane, for reminding us that this is temporary. and now listmembers... (drumroll please) ... who is YOUR guess for the next new kid on the block? -e- - Original Message - From: ccnawan To: Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 1:40 PM Subject: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613] Hi all, A few days ago there was a thread about the value of cisco certs, and how they were a lot of people pursuing them now. My first recollection of IT, was when Big Blue was King, my oldest brother would bring some of the IBM computer punch cards home from his job. Nobody could touch IBM then. That was still true when I started out in IT in 1981. A couple years later the new kid on the block was Novell Netware, and everybody including me wanted to be a CNE. I pursued my Netware certs. Then, we started hearing rumblings about Microsoft NT. You had to be a MCSE, if you did you could name your price, and that was true. As it was when Netware 2.1 first came out nobody knew about NT, so I followed the new kid and got a job in a NT shop. Well, now it is Cisco, no disrespect, I am a (Cisco reseller) and a few years as technology changes, it will be someone else maybe Juniper. After 20 years in IT nothing has changed, you must be prepared to learn new technology, keep your ear to the ground for the new kid on the block, he is coming soon, to a neighborhood near you.. I love computers. Dan Evensen CCNAWS CNS FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=2626t=2613 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613]
My HOPE would be self configuring end devices and possibly even self configuring internal ( not edge ) routers. My belief is IPv6 and the nightmare that will probably be. Should keep a LOT of us in clover for several years :- Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of EA Louie Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 2:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613] nice Dan, thanks for the walk down memory lane, for reminding us that this is temporary. and now listmembers... (drumroll please) ... who is YOUR guess for the next new kid on the block? -e- - Original Message - From: ccnawan To: Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 1:40 PM Subject: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613] Hi all, A few days ago there was a thread about the value of cisco certs, and how they were a lot of people pursuing them now. My first recollection of IT, was when Big Blue was King, my oldest brother would bring some of the IBM computer punch cards home from his job. Nobody could touch IBM then. That was still true when I started out in IT in 1981. A couple years later the new kid on the block was Novell Netware, and everybody including me wanted to be a CNE. I pursued my Netware certs. Then, we started hearing rumblings about Microsoft NT. You had to be a MCSE, if you did you could name your price, and that was true. As it was when Netware 2.1 first came out nobody knew about NT, so I followed the new kid and got a job in a NT shop. Well, now it is Cisco, no disrespect, I am a (Cisco reseller) and a few years as technology changes, it will be someone else maybe Juniper. After 20 years in IT nothing has changed, you must be prepared to learn new technology, keep your ear to the ground for the new kid on the block, he is coming soon, to a neighborhood near you.. I love computers. Dan Evensen CCNAWS CNS FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=2631t=2613 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613]
Specific companies have been mentioned but really they represented enabling technologies. Each was first or best or best at marketing. Each offered something that gained wide useage. So what is the next killer app or service? Who will provide it? -Original Message- From: EA Louie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 4:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613] nice Dan, thanks for the walk down memory lane, for reminding us that this is temporary. and now listmembers... (drumroll please) ... who is YOUR guess for the next new kid on the block? -e- - Original Message - From: ccnawan To: Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 1:40 PM Subject: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613] Hi all, A few days ago there was a thread about the value of cisco certs, and how they were a lot of people pursuing them now. My first recollection of IT, was when Big Blue was King, my oldest brother would bring some of the IBM computer punch cards home from his job. Nobody could touch IBM then. That was still true when I started out in IT in 1981. A couple years later the new kid on the block was Novell Netware, and everybody including me wanted to be a CNE. I pursued my Netware certs. Then, we started hearing rumblings about Microsoft NT. You had to be a MCSE, if you did you could name your price, and that was true. As it was when Netware 2.1 first came out nobody knew about NT, so I followed the new kid and got a job in a NT shop. Well, now it is Cisco, no disrespect, I am a (Cisco reseller) and a few years as technology changes, it will be someone else maybe Juniper. After 20 years in IT nothing has changed, you must be prepared to learn new technology, keep your ear to the ground for the new kid on the block, he is coming soon, to a neighborhood near you.. I love computers. Dan Evensen CCNAWS CNS FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=2632t=2613 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613]
I see the next 'killer app' being VoIP (and just deploying one set of wires) and also Multicast audio and blackboard applications. Cisco looks well positioned to help with both of those. Ben --- EA Louie wrote: nice Dan, thanks for the walk down memory lane, for reminding us that this is temporary. and now listmembers... (drumroll please) ... who is YOUR guess for the next new kid on the block? -e- - Original Message - From: ccnawan To: Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 1:40 PM Subject: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613] Hi all, A few days ago there was a thread about the value of cisco certs, and how they were a lot of people pursuing them now. My first recollection of IT, was when Big Blue was King, my oldest brother would bring some of the IBM computer punch cards home from his job. Nobody could touch IBM then. That was still true when I started out in IT in 1981. A couple years later the new kid on the block was Novell Netware, and everybody including me wanted to be a CNE. I pursued my Netware certs. Then, we started hearing rumblings about Microsoft NT. You had to be a MCSE, if you did you could name your price, and that was true. As it was when Netware 2.1 first came out nobody knew about NT, so I followed the new kid and got a job in a NT shop. Well, now it is Cisco, no disrespect, I am a (Cisco reseller) and a few years as technology changes, it will be someone else maybe Juniper. After 20 years in IT nothing has changed, you must be prepared to learn new technology, keep your ear to the ground for the new kid on the block, he is coming soon, to a neighborhood near you.. I love computers. Dan Evensen CCNAWS CNS FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=2642t=2613 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613]
The new kid on the block will be Caspian Systems. Joe Gearhart,CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=2647t=2613 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613]
Caspian Systems??? Can you elaborate a little? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 6:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613] The new kid on the block will be Caspian Systems. Joe Gearhart,CCNP FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=2649t=2613 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613]
Actually its Caspian Networks. i got the name wrong. The may issue of Wired Magazine has the article describing it. n-dimension switching and talks about a smart core that has peta bit capabilities. Still in the design phase, but thats how they all start. joe gearhart CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=2699t=2613 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613]
On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 12:32:21AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Magazine has the article describing it. n-dimension switching and talks about a smart core that has peta bit capabilities. Still in the design phase, but thats how they all start. ...and how most of them end. -- Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=2701t=2613 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]