Re: OT finding station trying to become MasterBrowser [7:58701]

2002-12-08 Thread srinivas kunthuri
Hi

There is a software called 3com network supervisor which is freely
downloadable from 3com website.
This software automatically generates a map of all connecting devices upto
workstations. If you need more details, find out on 3com website. If you are
having any doubts, please feel free to contact me.

Thanks/Regards,
K.Srinivas

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From: Priscilla Oppenheimer 
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Subject: OT finding station trying to become MasterBrowser [7:58701]


 I don't think there's any answer to this, but I thought I would check. How
 can I find the physical location of a system if I know the following:

 NetBIOS name, IP address, MAC Address, and the Domain it is attached too.

 I have a system that is trying to become the Master Browser and I've
 discovered all of the above information. The problem is, it's a large flat
 network, so the IP address comes from a huge pool and doesn't help
identify
 a network segment. The NetBIOS name isn't helpful and the vendor code in
the
 MAC address is shared by almost all the systems.

 Any utilities that you know of that could help find this station?

 It's a city-wide school system and driving around from school to school
 isn't practical, although it is a rather small city... :-)

 Any info would be great. Thanks.

 Priscilla




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RE: OT finding station trying to become MasterBrowser [7:58701]

2002-12-06 Thread Andy Barkl
Since the client does support NetBIOS, you could try using net send at
the command line of another client to send a message to the user by
computer name and ask them to call the support desk. 
Of course if it's a Windows 9x client they would have to be running
Winpopup to receive your message.

You could also use the remote shutdown utility from Microsoft to reboot
the computer in x minutes and send a message along with a reason which
again could be contact the support desk.
 

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From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 11:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT finding station trying to become MasterBrowser [7:58701]

I don't think there's any answer to this, but I thought I would check.
How
can I find the physical location of a system if I know the following:
 
NetBIOS name, IP address, MAC Address, and the Domain it is attached
too.

I have a system that is trying to become the Master Browser and I've
discovered all of the above information. The problem is, it's a large
flat
network, so the IP address comes from a huge pool and doesn't help
identify
a network segment. The NetBIOS name isn't helpful and the vendor code in
the
MAC address is shared by almost all the systems.

Any utilities that you know of that could help find this station?

It's a city-wide school system and driving around from school to school
isn't practical, although it is a rather small city... :-)

Any info would be great. Thanks.

Priscilla




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Re: OT finding station trying to become MasterBrowser [7:58701]

2002-12-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
When I have this situation I usually found the interface of the switch with
the command
show cam H.H.H.

When it ends up in a hub, that is a problem.  The only solution is a
ping/disconnect cable combination.







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I don't think there's any answer to this, but I thought I would check. How
can I find the physical location of a system if I know the following:

NetBIOS name, IP address, MAC Address, and the Domain it is attached too.

I have a system that is trying to become the Master Browser and I've
discovered all of the above information. The problem is, it's a large flat
network, so the IP address comes from a huge pool and doesn't help identify
a network segment. The NetBIOS name isn't helpful and the vendor code in
the
MAC address is shared by almost all the systems.

Any utilities that you know of that could help find this station?

It's a city-wide school system and driving around from school to school
isn't practical, although it is a rather small city... :-)

Any info would be great. Thanks.

Priscilla




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RE: OT finding station trying to become MasterBrowser [7:58701]

2002-12-06 Thread Ellis, Andrew
You could use a program called retina security scanner (download a trial
version from http://www.eeye.com/html/Products/Retina/Download.html) or GFI
LanGuard at http://www.gfi.com/downloads/downloads.asp?pid=8vid=1lid=1.
These will allow you to get more information such as users, service packs,
last time users logged in, vulnerability and so on. This will help you
narrow it down. You also can get registry information believe it or not.

Andrew

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From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT finding station trying to become MasterBrowser [7:58701]


I don't think there's any answer to this, but I thought I would check. How
can I find the physical location of a system if I know the following:
 
NetBIOS name, IP address, MAC Address, and the Domain it is attached too.

I have a system that is trying to become the Master Browser and I've
discovered all of the above information. The problem is, it's a large flat
network, so the IP address comes from a huge pool and doesn't help identify
a network segment. The NetBIOS name isn't helpful and the vendor code in the
MAC address is shared by almost all the systems.

Any utilities that you know of that could help find this station?

It's a city-wide school system and driving around from school to school
isn't practical, although it is a rather small city... :-)

Any info would be great. Thanks.

Priscilla




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RE: OT finding station trying to become MasterBrowser [7:58701]

2002-12-06 Thread James Heistand
If it is a switched network, flood the IP in question after hours and
look at the switches for the port with all the traffic.  If there are no
switches, then you will have to narrow it down to an individual hub and
then look at that group of workstaions.  I'm sure there is a more
technical answer to this.



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From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
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Subject: OT finding station trying to become MasterBrowser [7:58701]


I don't think there's any answer to this, but I thought I would check.
How can I find the physical location of a system if I know the
following:
 
NetBIOS name, IP address, MAC Address, and the Domain it is attached
too.

I have a system that is trying to become the Master Browser and I've
discovered all of the above information. The problem is, it's a large
flat network, so the IP address comes from a huge pool and doesn't help
identify a network segment. The NetBIOS name isn't helpful and the
vendor code in the MAC address is shared by almost all the systems.

Any utilities that you know of that could help find this station?

It's a city-wide school system and driving around from school to school
isn't practical, although it is a rather small city... :-)

Any info would be great. Thanks.

Priscilla




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RE: OT finding station trying to become MasterBrowser [7:58701]

2002-12-06 Thread Daniel Cotts
Using Cisco gear I go to a router's arp table which also tells me the
interface from which it learned the mac address.
Then I go to the attached switch(es) and search for the mac and its
associated interface.
Cat5k sh cam xx-xx-xx-xx-xx-xx
Cat2924# sh mac-address-table address ..
If I haven't been smart enough to add a port name or description line then
it's wire tracing time.

In your case I'll assume that there is one site that is the hub. From there
can you determine which remote site has the offending computer? If the
remote site has switches into which you can telnet you could narrow it down.
If cascading hubs - ouch! 

 -Original Message-
 From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 12:23 PM
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 Subject: OT finding station trying to become MasterBrowser [7:58701]
 
 
 I don't think there's any answer to this, but I thought I 
 would check. How
 can I find the physical location of a system if I know the following:
  
 NetBIOS name, IP address, MAC Address, and the Domain it is 
 attached too.
 
 I have a system that is trying to become the Master Browser and I've
 discovered all of the above information. The problem is, it's 
 a large flat
 network, so the IP address comes from a huge pool and doesn't 
 help identify
 a network segment. The NetBIOS name isn't helpful and the 
 vendor code in the
 MAC address is shared by almost all the systems.
 
 Any utilities that you know of that could help find this station?
 
 It's a city-wide school system and driving around from school 
 to school
 isn't practical, although it is a rather small city... :-)
 
 Any info would be great. Thanks.
 
 Priscilla




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RE: OT finding station trying to become MasterBrowser [7:58701]

2002-12-06 Thread Frank Jimenez
Probably won't help you in this situation, but in CiscoWorks 2000, there
is a feature in Campus Manager called User Tracking that associates a
UserName with a MAC Address and with a Device/Port combination.  Has
saved my bacon in several cases similar to yours.

Assuming it's Cisco gear, you could also start at the core switch and do
either a 'show cam dynamic' or a 'show mac-address-table' and try to
follow the uplinks until you end up at an access port with your MAC
address


Good Luck!
Frank Jimenez, CCIE #5738
Systems Engineer
Cisco Systems, Inc.
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Subject: OT finding station trying to become MasterBrowser [7:58701]


I don't think there's any answer to this, but I thought I would check.
How can I find the physical location of a system if I know the
following:

NetBIOS name, IP address, MAC Address, and the Domain it is attached
too.

I have a system that is trying to become the Master Browser and I've
discovered all of the above information. The problem is, it's a large
flat network, so the IP address comes from a huge pool and doesn't help
identify a network segment. The NetBIOS name isn't helpful and the
vendor code in the MAC address is shared by almost all the systems.

Any utilities that you know of that could help find this station?

It's a city-wide school system and driving around from school to school
isn't practical, although it is a rather small city... :-)

Any info would be great. Thanks.

Priscilla




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RE: OT finding station trying to become MasterBrowser [7:58701]

2002-12-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How about setting another machine to that IP address and wait to see who
gets
the conflict message?

Mark

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 Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 19:36:28 GMT
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 Probably won't help you in this situation, but in CiscoWorks 2000, there
 is a feature in Campus Manager called User Tracking that associates a
 UserName with a MAC Address and with a Device/Port combination.  Has
 saved my bacon in several cases similar to yours.
 
 Assuming it's Cisco gear, you could also start at the core switch and do
 either a 'show cam dynamic' or a 'show mac-address-table' and try to
 follow the uplinks until you end up at an access port with your MAC
 address
 
 
 Good Luck!
 Frank Jimenez, CCIE #5738
 Systems Engineer
 Cisco Systems, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
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 Subject: OT finding station trying to become MasterBrowser [7:58701]
 
 
 I don't think there's any answer to this, but I thought I would check.
 How can I find the physical location of a system if I know the
 following:
 
 NetBIOS name, IP address, MAC Address, and the Domain it is attached
 too.
 
 I have a system that is trying to become the Master Browser and I've
 discovered all of the above information. The problem is, it's a large
 flat network, so the IP address comes from a huge pool and doesn't help
 identify a network segment. The NetBIOS name isn't helpful and the
 vendor code in the MAC address is shared by almost all the systems.
 
 Any utilities that you know of that could help find this station?
 
 It's a city-wide school system and driving around from school to school
 isn't practical, although it is a rather small city... :-)
 
 Any info would be great. Thanks.
 
 Priscilla




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RE: OT finding station trying to become MasterBrowser [7:58701]

2002-12-06 Thread Evans, TJ (BearingPoint)
Along with MAC tracing, using CDP to id next-hop switches, etc. you can also
try to us something like psloggedon (or psshutdown if you have something of
a mean-streak) from sysinternals.com.  OR - if your domain is logging
successful logins, maybe you could look through them to see who is logging
in from that machine.

... get the user's name, send them a friendly request to modify their
system accordingly.


Or, if their policies permit, you could always sniff traffic from their IP
looking for login names.  May require some SPANning or 'traffic engineering'
to get their packets to you ...



(sorry the first couple weren't more 'network oriented' answers :))
Please let us know what you find / how you find it ...
Thanks!
TJ
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Subject: OT finding station trying to become MasterBrowser [7:58701]

I don't think there's any answer to this, but I thought I would check. How
can I find the physical location of a system if I know the following:
 
NetBIOS name, IP address, MAC Address, and the Domain it is attached too.

I have a system that is trying to become the Master Browser and I've
discovered all of the above information. The problem is, it's a large flat
network, so the IP address comes from a huge pool and doesn't help identify
a network segment. The NetBIOS name isn't helpful and the vendor code in the
MAC address is shared by almost all the systems.

Any utilities that you know of that could help find this station?

It's a city-wide school system and driving around from school to school
isn't practical, although it is a rather small city... :-)

Any info would be great. Thanks.

Priscilla
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Re: OT finding station trying to become MasterBrowser [7:58701]

2002-12-06 Thread John Murphy
I would suspect a Linux box somewhere on your net that has a new Samba
install on it.  The default configuration is set for the box to attempt to
be the Master Browser.   A tool like NMAP will help you identify the type of
device you're dealing with, this could help in a process of elimination,
otherwise  ARP and CAM tables will find it, assuming you have switches and
not hubs...


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From: Priscilla Oppenheimer 
To: 
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 12:22 PM
Subject: OT finding station trying to become MasterBrowser [7:58701]


 I don't think there's any answer to this, but I thought I would check. How
 can I find the physical location of a system if I know the following:

 NetBIOS name, IP address, MAC Address, and the Domain it is attached too.

 I have a system that is trying to become the Master Browser and I've
 discovered all of the above information. The problem is, it's a large flat
 network, so the IP address comes from a huge pool and doesn't help
identify
 a network segment. The NetBIOS name isn't helpful and the vendor code in
the
 MAC address is shared by almost all the systems.

 Any utilities that you know of that could help find this station?

 It's a city-wide school system and driving around from school to school
 isn't practical, although it is a rather small city... :-)

 Any info would be great. Thanks.

 Priscilla




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