Re: Resricicting Certain Users -Pix 515 UR [7:58861]

2002-12-12 Thread Richard Deal
To all,

WebSense, and N2H2 (in 6.2), are good solutions if you want to filter web
CONTENT--if you have a statitic list of sites, then using an ACL will do the
job. Another solution, especially if you have roaming users and their IPs
are assigned via DHCP, is to use Cut-Through proxy--with this solution, the
user must authenticate BEFORE you allow the connection going out. This gives
you per-group control on who access what. This can be used for traffic in
BOTH directions on the PIX.

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Brad  wrote in message
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 Kevin,

 Hi!  I would say the best way to do something like this would probably be
 using Websense (or similar software) in conjunction with your Pix.  I've
 setup Websense before, and it's pretty easy.

 thanks,
 -Brad Ellis
 CCIE#5796 (RS / Security)
 Network Learning Inc
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.optsys.net (Cisco hardware)

 Kevin O'Gilvie  wrote in message
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  Hi All,
 
  I would like to create a group lets say x,x,x,x-x.x.x.x and restrict
them
 to
  only certain websites, I am guessing I will have to use ip addresses of
  those sites, but still allow them to access the local network..
  Whats the best way to go about this.
  I have been using groups in my configs thus far..
 
  BTW- I love you guys in this group, it has to be the best news group
 around
  right now, lets keep the standards high and weed out the slackers that
are
  trying to water down the CCIE's. We are doing more work for less money
and
  the main reason why is because we are settling, we work damn hard and
 invest
  time and money to achieve these goals, and should be awarded as such. I
 dont
  see doctors building practice labs in there homes to cure patients, nor
  lawyers building practice court rooms..
 
  Sorry for the ranting but every year it seems you have to have more and
 more
  letters after your name to earn a decent living in this technology
arena,
  when we are the ones that are enabling these million and billion dollar
  companies to do business seemlessly anytime and anywhere..
 
  -Kevin
 
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RE: Resricicting Certain Users -Pix 515 UR [7:58861]

2002-12-11 Thread Andrew Larkins
Maybe a dumb question - but is there a certain software version for that
command  (object group) - haven't seen it before

-Original Message-
From: Kevin O'Gilvie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 10 December 2002 22:15
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Resricicting Certain Users -Pix 515 UR [7:58861]


Sounds good..
But websense is very expensive..
Wont lists do the job as well: e.g

object-group network REST-LAN-USR
  network-object 10.1.x.x 255.255.255.0
object-group network Rest-SRV
  network-object host 64.232.56.99
  network-object host 209.123.45.67

access-list RESTRICTED permit tcp object-group REST-LAN-USR object-group 
Rest-SRV eq www

And just put those users in that subnet?

Thanks Brad






From: Brad 
Reply-To: Brad 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Resricicting Certain Users -Pix 515 UR [7:58861]
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 15:42:54 GMT

Kevin,

Hi!  I would say the best way to do something like this would probably be
using Websense (or similar software) in conjunction with your Pix.  I've
setup Websense before, and it's pretty easy.

thanks,
-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796 (RS / Security)
Network Learning Inc
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.optsys.net (Cisco hardware)

Kevin O'Gilvie  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Hi All,
 
  I would like to create a group lets say x,x,x,x-x.x.x.x and restrict 
them
to
  only certain websites, I am guessing I will have to use ip addresses of
  those sites, but still allow them to access the local network..
  Whats the best way to go about this.
  I have been using groups in my configs thus far..
 
  BTW- I love you guys in this group, it has to be the best news group
around
  right now, lets keep the standards high and weed out the slackers that 
are
  trying to water down the CCIE's. We are doing more work for less money 
and
  the main reason why is because we are settling, we work damn hard and
invest
  time and money to achieve these goals, and should be awarded as such. I
dont
  see doctors building practice labs in there homes to cure patients, nor
  lawyers building practice court rooms..
 
  Sorry for the ranting but every year it seems you have to have more and
more
  letters after your name to earn a decent living in this technology 
arena,
  when we are the ones that are enabling these million and billion dollar
  companies to do business seemlessly anytime and anywhere..
 
  -Kevin
 
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RE: Resricicting Certain Users -Pix 515 UR [7:58861]

2002-12-11 Thread Kevin O'Gilvie
Yeah,

Its starts at version 6.2.
Its great, drastically reduces your config lines..






From: Andrew Larkins 
Reply-To: Andrew Larkins 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Resricicting Certain Users -Pix 515 UR [7:58861]
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 16:32:13 GMT

Maybe a dumb question - but is there a certain software version for that
command  (object group) - haven't seen it before

-Original Message-
From: Kevin O'Gilvie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 10 December 2002 22:15
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Resricicting Certain Users -Pix 515 UR [7:58861]


Sounds good..
But websense is very expensive..
Wont lists do the job as well: e.g

object-group network REST-LAN-USR
   network-object 10.1.x.x 255.255.255.0
object-group network Rest-SRV
   network-object host 64.232.56.99
   network-object host 209.123.45.67

access-list RESTRICTED permit tcp object-group REST-LAN-USR object-group
Rest-SRV eq www

And just put those users in that subnet?

Thanks Brad






 From: Brad
 Reply-To: Brad
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Resricicting Certain Users -Pix 515 UR [7:58861]
 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 15:42:54 GMT
 
 Kevin,
 
 Hi!  I would say the best way to do something like this would probably be
 using Websense (or similar software) in conjunction with your Pix.  I've
 setup Websense before, and it's pretty easy.
 
 thanks,
 -Brad Ellis
 CCIE#5796 (RS / Security)
 Network Learning Inc
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.optsys.net (Cisco hardware)
 
 Kevin O'Gilvie  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   Hi All,
  
   I would like to create a group lets say x,x,x,x-x.x.x.x and restrict
 them
 to
   only certain websites, I am guessing I will have to use ip addresses 
of
   those sites, but still allow them to access the local network..
   Whats the best way to go about this.
   I have been using groups in my configs thus far..
  
   BTW- I love you guys in this group, it has to be the best news group
 around
   right now, lets keep the standards high and weed out the slackers that
 are
   trying to water down the CCIE's. We are doing more work for less money
 and
   the main reason why is because we are settling, we work damn hard and
 invest
   time and money to achieve these goals, and should be awarded as such. 
I
 dont
   see doctors building practice labs in there homes to cure patients, 
nor
   lawyers building practice court rooms..
  
   Sorry for the ranting but every year it seems you have to have more 
and
 more
   letters after your name to earn a decent living in this technology
 arena,
   when we are the ones that are enabling these million and billion 
dollar
   companies to do business seemlessly anytime and anywhere..
  
   -Kevin
  
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Re: Resricicting Certain Users -Pix 515 UR [7:58861]

2002-12-10 Thread Brad
Kevin,

Hi!  I would say the best way to do something like this would probably be
using Websense (or similar software) in conjunction with your Pix.  I've
setup Websense before, and it's pretty easy.

thanks,
-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796 (RS / Security)
Network Learning Inc
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.optsys.net (Cisco hardware)

Kevin O'Gilvie  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Hi All,

 I would like to create a group lets say x,x,x,x-x.x.x.x and restrict them
to
 only certain websites, I am guessing I will have to use ip addresses of
 those sites, but still allow them to access the local network..
 Whats the best way to go about this.
 I have been using groups in my configs thus far..

 BTW- I love you guys in this group, it has to be the best news group
around
 right now, lets keep the standards high and weed out the slackers that are
 trying to water down the CCIE's. We are doing more work for less money and
 the main reason why is because we are settling, we work damn hard and
invest
 time and money to achieve these goals, and should be awarded as such. I
dont
 see doctors building practice labs in there homes to cure patients, nor
 lawyers building practice court rooms..

 Sorry for the ranting but every year it seems you have to have more and
more
 letters after your name to earn a decent living in this technology arena,
 when we are the ones that are enabling these million and billion dollar
 companies to do business seemlessly anytime and anywhere..

 -Kevin

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RE: Resricicting Certain Users -Pix 515 UR [7:58861]

2002-12-10 Thread Andrew Larkins
You could also use a TACACS+ server here and have authentication configured
for those users for any HTTP request - all others should be allowed to
access the web without authentication. This way you can track them etc and
setup specific access on the TACACS+ server.

Never used Websense some I have no idea - sounds good from what I have read
though.

Andrew


-Original Message-
From: Brad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 10 December 2002 17:43
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Resricicting Certain Users -Pix 515 UR [7:58861]


Kevin,

Hi!  I would say the best way to do something like this would probably be
using Websense (or similar software) in conjunction with your Pix.  I've
setup Websense before, and it's pretty easy.

thanks,
-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796 (RS / Security)
Network Learning Inc
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.optsys.net (Cisco hardware)

Kevin O'Gilvie  wrote in message
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 Hi All,

 I would like to create a group lets say x,x,x,x-x.x.x.x and restrict them
to
 only certain websites, I am guessing I will have to use ip addresses of
 those sites, but still allow them to access the local network..
 Whats the best way to go about this.
 I have been using groups in my configs thus far..

 BTW- I love you guys in this group, it has to be the best news group
around
 right now, lets keep the standards high and weed out the slackers that are
 trying to water down the CCIE's. We are doing more work for less money and
 the main reason why is because we are settling, we work damn hard and
invest
 time and money to achieve these goals, and should be awarded as such. I
dont
 see doctors building practice labs in there homes to cure patients, nor
 lawyers building practice court rooms..

 Sorry for the ranting but every year it seems you have to have more and
more
 letters after your name to earn a decent living in this technology arena,
 when we are the ones that are enabling these million and billion dollar
 companies to do business seemlessly anytime and anywhere..

 -Kevin

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Re: Resricicting Certain Users -Pix 515 UR [7:58861]

2002-12-10 Thread Kevin O'Gilvie
Sounds good..
But websense is very expensive..
Wont lists do the job as well: e.g

object-group network REST-LAN-USR
  network-object 10.1.x.x 255.255.255.0
object-group network Rest-SRV
  network-object host 64.232.56.99
  network-object host 209.123.45.67

access-list RESTRICTED permit tcp object-group REST-LAN-USR object-group 
Rest-SRV eq www

And just put those users in that subnet?

Thanks Brad






From: Brad 
Reply-To: Brad 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Resricicting Certain Users -Pix 515 UR [7:58861]
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 15:42:54 GMT

Kevin,

Hi!  I would say the best way to do something like this would probably be
using Websense (or similar software) in conjunction with your Pix.  I've
setup Websense before, and it's pretty easy.

thanks,
-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796 (RS / Security)
Network Learning Inc
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.optsys.net (Cisco hardware)

Kevin O'Gilvie  wrote in message
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  Hi All,
 
  I would like to create a group lets say x,x,x,x-x.x.x.x and restrict 
them
to
  only certain websites, I am guessing I will have to use ip addresses of
  those sites, but still allow them to access the local network..
  Whats the best way to go about this.
  I have been using groups in my configs thus far..
 
  BTW- I love you guys in this group, it has to be the best news group
around
  right now, lets keep the standards high and weed out the slackers that 
are
  trying to water down the CCIE's. We are doing more work for less money 
and
  the main reason why is because we are settling, we work damn hard and
invest
  time and money to achieve these goals, and should be awarded as such. I
dont
  see doctors building practice labs in there homes to cure patients, nor
  lawyers building practice court rooms..
 
  Sorry for the ranting but every year it seems you have to have more and
more
  letters after your name to earn a decent living in this technology 
arena,
  when we are the ones that are enabling these million and billion dollar
  companies to do business seemlessly anytime and anywhere..
 
  -Kevin
 
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RE: Resricicting Certain Users -Pix 515 UR [7:58861]

2002-12-09 Thread Mark W. Odette II
Amen Brotha!

Keep it real, as some have said in the past :)

-Mark
A+, CCNP, MCSE, pursuing CCSP(Cisco), AVVID, CCSE(CPFW), and eventually
CCIE.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin O'Gilvie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 8:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Resricicting Certain Users -Pix 515 UR [7:58861]

Hi All,

I would like to create a group lets say x,x,x,x-x.x.x.x and restrict
them to 
only certain websites, I am guessing I will have to use ip addresses of 
those sites, but still allow them to access the local network..
Whats the best way to go about this.
I have been using groups in my configs thus far..

BTW- I love you guys in this group, it has to be the best news group
around 
right now, lets keep the standards high and weed out the slackers that
are 
trying to water down the CCIE's. We are doing more work for less money
and 
the main reason why is because we are settling, we work damn hard and
invest 
time and money to achieve these goals, and should be awarded as such. I
dont 
see doctors building practice labs in there homes to cure patients, nor 
lawyers building practice court rooms..

Sorry for the ranting but every year it seems you have to have more and
more 
letters after your name to earn a decent living in this technology
arena, 
when we are the ones that are enabling these million and billion dollar 
companies to do business seemlessly anytime and anywhere..

-Kevin

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