Re: Simulate ATM [7:4981]

2001-05-18 Thread Circusnuts

Couple of UNI's (2600, 3600, 4500, or 4700) with ATM interfaces and an NNI
ATM switch to build your PVC's  mapping  (LS100, FORE LE100 or 155, LS1010,
Nortel, etc.,etc.).  It's probably going to be the most expensive part of
your lab.

Phil

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Subject: Simulate ATM [7:4981]


 Is it possible to simulate an ATM WAN cloud in a home lab?

 If it is what is a cheap way of doing this?

 What equipment is required?

 Is this something that should be done while studying for CCIE lab.

 Thanks

 Rashid
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RE: Simulate ATM [7:4981]

2001-05-18 Thread Deloso, Elmer G (WPNSTA Yorktown)

Phil,
I'm a novice when it comes to ATM, so does it mean I won't be able to
practice PVC's if I just connect the two ATM interfaces on my 4500
back-to-back? What would I be able to do or not do if I don't have an ATM
switch in between the routers?
Unfortunately, the ATM book by CiscoPress has all the lab configurations
outfitted with 9 ATM-capable routers, so I don't know where else to look for
sample configurations for a home lab environment.
Thanks for your input on this.
Elmer

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Couple of UNI's (2600, 3600, 4500, or 4700) with ATM interfaces and an NNI
ATM switch to build your PVC's  mapping  (LS100, FORE LE100 or 155, LS1010,
Nortel, etc.,etc.).  It's probably going to be the most expensive part of
your lab.

Phil

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From: Rashid Lohiya 
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 10:28 AM
Subject: Simulate ATM [7:4981]


 Is it possible to simulate an ATM WAN cloud in a home lab?

 If it is what is a cheap way of doing this?

 What equipment is required?

 Is this something that should be done while studying for CCIE lab.

 Thanks

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RE: Simulate ATM [7:4981]

2001-05-18 Thread Daniel Cotts

The following link on the AIP card has a sample back-to-back ATM config.
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/core/cis7000/interpr/atm/121
4aip.htm
Watch the wrap.
We might ask the experts if there is any utility in having a lab with a
switch to connect three ATM routers? ATM is a NBMA environment. Routing over
that might have some special considerations. Any gotchas?

 -Original Message-
 From: Deloso, Elmer G (WPNSTA Yorktown) 
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 Subject: RE: Simulate ATM [7:4981]
 
 
 Phil,
 I'm a novice when it comes to ATM, so does it mean I won't be able to
 practice PVC's if I just connect the two ATM interfaces on my 4500
 back-to-back? What would I be able to do or not do if I don't 
 have an ATM
 switch in between the routers?
 Unfortunately, the ATM book by CiscoPress has all the lab 
 configurations
 outfitted with 9 ATM-capable routers, so I don't know where 
 else to look for
 sample configurations for a home lab environment.
 Thanks for your input on this.
 Elmer
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Circusnuts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 11:31 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Simulate ATM [7:4981]
 
 
 Couple of UNI's (2600, 3600, 4500, or 4700) with ATM 
 interfaces and an NNI
 ATM switch to build your PVC's  mapping  (LS100, FORE LE100 
 or 155, LS1010,
 Nortel, etc.,etc.).  It's probably going to be the most 
 expensive part of
 your lab.
 
 Phil
 
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 From: Rashid Lohiya 
 To: 
 Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 10:28 AM
 Subject: Simulate ATM [7:4981]
 
 
  Is it possible to simulate an ATM WAN cloud in a home lab?
 
  If it is what is a cheap way of doing this?
 
  What equipment is required?
 
  Is this something that should be done while studying for CCIE lab.
 
  Thanks
 
  Rashid
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Re: Simulate ATM [7:4981]

2001-05-18 Thread Kevin Wigle

All-In-One CCIE Lab Study Guide, Huttnick and Satterlee

Chapter 5, page 271

Has two labs using 4500s back to back.

Maybe not enough to buy the book but there's a lot more in the book (86 labs
total) for people wanting to get some labs to do at home.

Kevin Wigle

- Original Message -
From: Deloso, Elmer G (WPNSTA Yorktown) 
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 12:32 PM
Subject: RE: Simulate ATM [7:4981]


 Phil,
 I'm a novice when it comes to ATM, so does it mean I won't be able to
 practice PVC's if I just connect the two ATM interfaces on my 4500
 back-to-back? What would I be able to do or not do if I don't have an ATM
 switch in between the routers?
 Unfortunately, the ATM book by CiscoPress has all the lab configurations
 outfitted with 9 ATM-capable routers, so I don't know where else to look
for
 sample configurations for a home lab environment.
 Thanks for your input on this.
 Elmer

 -Original Message-
 From: Circusnuts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 11:31 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Simulate ATM [7:4981]


 Couple of UNI's (2600, 3600, 4500, or 4700) with ATM interfaces and an NNI
 ATM switch to build your PVC's  mapping  (LS100, FORE LE100 or 155,
LS1010,
 Nortel, etc.,etc.).  It's probably going to be the most expensive part of
 your lab.

 Phil

 - Original Message -
 From: Rashid Lohiya
 To:
 Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 10:28 AM
 Subject: Simulate ATM [7:4981]


  Is it possible to simulate an ATM WAN cloud in a home lab?
 
  If it is what is a cheap way of doing this?
 
  What equipment is required?
 
  Is this something that should be done while studying for CCIE lab.
 
  Thanks
 
  Rashid
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Re: Simulate ATM [7:4981]

2001-05-18 Thread Circusnuts

I've never done ATM back to back.  You will obviously lose the capabilities
to do Point to Multipoint  PVC discovery.  PVC discovery just sounds to
tempting/ important, not expect to see it on the CCIE :o)  The new Cisco ATM
book is really outdated when it comes to Cisco equipment.  As far as I know,
treat ATM as you would ISDN or Frame.  The CCIE lab should only require it
as another access method.

Phil



- Original Message -
From: Deloso, Elmer G (WPNSTA Yorktown) 
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 12:32 PM
Subject: RE: Simulate ATM [7:4981]


 Phil,
 I'm a novice when it comes to ATM, so does it mean I won't be able to
 practice PVC's if I just connect the two ATM interfaces on my 4500
 back-to-back? What would I be able to do or not do if I don't have an ATM
 switch in between the routers?
 Unfortunately, the ATM book by CiscoPress has all the lab configurations
 outfitted with 9 ATM-capable routers, so I don't know where else to look
for
 sample configurations for a home lab environment.
 Thanks for your input on this.
 Elmer

 -Original Message-
 From: Circusnuts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 11:31 AM
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 Subject: Re: Simulate ATM [7:4981]


 Couple of UNI's (2600, 3600, 4500, or 4700) with ATM interfaces and an NNI
 ATM switch to build your PVC's  mapping  (LS100, FORE LE100 or 155,
LS1010,
 Nortel, etc.,etc.).  It's probably going to be the most expensive part of
 your lab.

 Phil

 - Original Message -
 From: Rashid Lohiya
 To:
 Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 10:28 AM
 Subject: Simulate ATM [7:4981]


  Is it possible to simulate an ATM WAN cloud in a home lab?
 
  If it is what is a cheap way of doing this?
 
  What equipment is required?
 
  Is this something that should be done while studying for CCIE lab.
 
  Thanks
 
  Rashid
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