RE: Sniffer on a Frame line... [7:2253]

2001-04-27 Thread Hire, Ejay

Frame over serial? (T1/Ds1/Ds3)  They would have to plug into a Network
analyzer with a compatible interface, not a hub.  Most hardware network
analyzers have pass-through connections that let you plug through the
analyzer to the router.

Good Luck,
Ejay

-Original Message-
From: Rizzo Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 10:10 AM
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Subject: Sniffer on a Frame line... [7:2253]


Quick question for you all. If you were to break a Frame Relay
connection going into a router by first plugging it into a hub, then
connecting it to the router, for the purposes of plugging a sniffer into
that hub to monitor all frame traffic, would this scenario work or not so
much?   Thanks for your input!
 
 
 
   -Rizzo
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RE: Sniffer on a Frame line... [7:2253]

2001-04-27 Thread Rizzo Damian

The RJ45 connection between the DSU/CSU and the wall jack. Would putting a
hub between the two work? Then I could place a sniffer on the hub.




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Subject: RE: Sniffer on a Frame line... [7:2253]

Frame over serial? (T1/Ds1/Ds3)  They would have to plug into a Network
analyzer with a compatible interface, not a hub.  Most hardware network
analyzers have pass-through connections that let you plug through the
analyzer to the router.

Good Luck,
Ejay

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From: Rizzo Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Subject: Sniffer on a Frame line... [7:2253]


Quick question for you all. If you were to break a Frame Relay
connection going into a router by first plugging it into a hub, then
connecting it to the router, for the purposes of plugging a sniffer into
that hub to monitor all frame traffic, would this scenario work or not so
much?   Thanks for your input!
 
 
 
   -Rizzo
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RE: Sniffer on a Frame line... [7:2253]

2001-04-27 Thread Rauch, Mike

If your sniffer is a WAN sniffer, you could use a V35 Y cable between the
CSU and
the router.  If it is a LAN sniffer, you will probably have to plug it into
the
hub or switch that your router connects to.

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Subject: RE: Sniffer on a Frame line... [7:2253]


The RJ45 connection between the DSU/CSU and the wall jack. Would putting a
hub between the two work? Then I could place a sniffer on the hub.




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From: Hire, Ejay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 11:00 AM
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Subject: RE: Sniffer on a Frame line... [7:2253]

Frame over serial? (T1/Ds1/Ds3)  They would have to plug into a Network
analyzer with a compatible interface, not a hub.  Most hardware network
analyzers have pass-through connections that let you plug through the
analyzer to the router.

Good Luck,
Ejay

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From: Rizzo Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Subject: Sniffer on a Frame line... [7:2253]


Quick question for you all. If you were to break a Frame Relay
connection going into a router by first plugging it into a hub, then
connecting it to the router, for the purposes of plugging a sniffer into
that hub to monitor all frame traffic, would this scenario work or not so
much?   Thanks for your input!
 
 
 
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RE: Sniffer on a Frame line... [7:2253]

2001-04-27 Thread John Neiberger

RJ45 does not equal Ethernet.  Are you thinking of placing an ethernet
hub  there?  If so, you have completely incompatible physical layers to
begin with.  A T-1 signal from a csu/dsu or an NIU is going to wreak all
sorts of havoc on an ethernet hub, most likely.

You also have completely different datalink layers, so you can't expect
an ethernet sniffer to have the slightest idea what is going on inside a
frame relay frame on a DS1.  This not unlike asking "Can I connect a
regular phone to an ethernet hub and listen in on a VoIP call?" 
Completely incompatible technologies.  You'd have to find a hardware
sniffer designed for frame relay.

HTH,
John

>>> "Rizzo Damian"  4/27/01 9:24:53 AM >>>
The RJ45 connection between the DSU/CSU and the wall jack. Would
putting a
hub between the two work? Then I could place a sniffer on the hub.




-Original Message-
From: Hire, Ejay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 11:00 AM
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Subject: RE: Sniffer on a Frame line... [7:2253]

Frame over serial? (T1/Ds1/Ds3)  They would have to plug into a
Network
analyzer with a compatible interface, not a hub.  Most hardware
network
analyzers have pass-through connections that let you plug through the
analyzer to the router.

Good Luck,
Ejay

-Original Message-
From: Rizzo Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 10:10 AM
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Subject: Sniffer on a Frame line... [7:2253]


Quick question for you all. If you were to break a Frame Relay
connection going into a router by first plugging it into a hub, then
connecting it to the router, for the purposes of plugging a sniffer
into
that hub to monitor all frame traffic, would this scenario work or not
so
much?   Thanks for your input!
 
 
 
   -Rizzo
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RE: Sniffer on a Frame line... [7:2253]

2001-04-30 Thread Parrish, Ben

There are CSU/DSU's that will also act as a sniffer for frame-relay ckts.
They usually are ungodly expensive unless your carrier provides it for you.
Visual Networks comes to mind as as a manufacturer of these little toys.
The amount you can capture is dependent upon the amount of mem in the csu.
Not the best one out there but works very well.

Good Luck,
Ben Parrish

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Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 11:15 AM
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Subject: RE: Sniffer on a Frame line... [7:2253]


RJ45 does not equal Ethernet.  Are you thinking of placing an ethernet
hub  there?  If so, you have completely incompatible physical layers to
begin with.  A T-1 signal from a csu/dsu or an NIU is going to wreak all
sorts of havoc on an ethernet hub, most likely.

You also have completely different datalink layers, so you can't expect
an ethernet sniffer to have the slightest idea what is going on inside a
frame relay frame on a DS1.  This not unlike asking "Can I connect a
regular phone to an ethernet hub and listen in on a VoIP call?" 
Completely incompatible technologies.  You'd have to find a hardware
sniffer designed for frame relay.

HTH,
John

>>> "Rizzo Damian"  4/27/01 9:24:53 AM >>>
The RJ45 connection between the DSU/CSU and the wall jack. Would
putting a
hub between the two work? Then I could place a sniffer on the hub.




-Original Message-
From: Hire, Ejay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 11:00 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: Sniffer on a Frame line... [7:2253]

Frame over serial? (T1/Ds1/Ds3)  They would have to plug into a
Network
analyzer with a compatible interface, not a hub.  Most hardware
network
analyzers have pass-through connections that let you plug through the
analyzer to the router.

Good Luck,
Ejay

-Original Message-
From: Rizzo Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 10:10 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Sniffer on a Frame line... [7:2253]


Quick question for you all. If you were to break a Frame Relay
connection going into a router by first plugging it into a hub, then
connecting it to the router, for the purposes of plugging a sniffer
into
that hub to monitor all frame traffic, would this scenario work or not
so
much?   Thanks for your input!
 
 
 
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