Re: can we ping via MAC address? [7:6387]

2001-05-30 Thread W. Alan Robertson

That's really close, but I don't know of an application that allows
you to arbitrarily RARP...  There is a way you can display the MAC to
IP mappings that works from either Windows or Unix machines, though
the syntax may differ slightly for each, depending on flavor.

From a DOS prompt, or a Unix shell, type:

arp -a

This will list all of the MAC addresses and their corresponding IP
addresses that are in the system's cache.  Sometimes it's helpful to
ping the segment's IP broadcast address prior, because arp entries
time out.  Pinging the broadcast address should cause a flurry of arp
action on the segment, and should populate the arp cache.  Remember,
you must do this from a machine on the same segment/subnet.  Arp is
locally signifigant.  You cannot arp for a device on a different IP
subnet.

Hope this helps,

Alan

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Subject: RE: can we ping via MAC address? [7:6387]


 You won't be able to ping a MAC-Address, but if you only want to
find an IP
 associated with the MAC, try using RARP! (Reverse ARP)




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Re: can we ping via MAC address? [7:6387]

2001-05-30 Thread andyh

if you have access to the router that routes for the computer's local
network, then look in the arp table to find the MAC address:

sh arp | inc 

Andy

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From: Susan Stone 
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Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 9:36 AM
Subject: can we ping via MAC address? [7:6387]


 Hi.. Dear all,

 If we have a MAC address, can we find out what is the IP address
associated
 with it?  Given MAC find IP. Basically like ping via MAC address.  Can it
be
 done?

 Susan

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RE: can we ping via MAC address? [7:6387]

2001-05-30 Thread Chuck Larrieu

If you enable IPX routing, and have IPX network numbers on your various
router interfaces, or have IPX protocol stacks on your PC's then yes you can
ping mac addresses from a Cisco router. recall that in the world of IPX the
mac is the host portion of an IPX address.

I won't say that it's fun or easy. Particularly in a production network, no
matter how small.

Chuck

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You won't be able to ping a MAC-Address, but if you only want to find an IP
associated with the MAC, try using RARP! (Reverse ARP)
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Re: can we ping via MAC address? [7:6387]

2001-05-30 Thread W. Alan Robertson

I hate following up my own posts, but I went to one of my Linux boxes
to see if there was a 'rarp' command.  It turns out there is, and it
works just like the arp command I listed below.  The only problem was
that I don't have rarp support compiled into my kernel, so I couldn't
use it.

The drawback to each of these commands, however, is that they don't
perform an arp or rarp queries.  They simply offer a means of
displaying, or clearing, the entries in the arp or rarp tables.

It doesn't really matter though...  Like I said before, the quickest
way to get the machine to initiate a query is to simply ping
something.  If the entry doesn't already exist in the cache, it will
perform the query without intervention.

[Side note: Ever notice that when you ping something from a Cisco,
like a device on a connected ethernet segment, that the first ping
typically fails, but the remaining 4 pings work fine, and subsequent
pings work 5/5?  That's arp in action.]

Alan

- Original Message -
From: W. Alan Robertson 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: can we ping via MAC address? [7:6387]


 That's really close, but I don't know of an application that allows
 you to arbitrarily RARP...  There is a way you can display the MAC
to
 IP mappings that works from either Windows or Unix machines, though
 the syntax may differ slightly for each, depending on flavor.

 From a DOS prompt, or a Unix shell, type:

 arp -a

 This will list all of the MAC addresses and their corresponding IP
 addresses that are in the system's cache.  Sometimes it's helpful to
 ping the segment's IP broadcast address prior, because arp entries
 time out.  Pinging the broadcast address should cause a flurry of
arp
 action on the segment, and should populate the arp cache.  Remember,
 you must do this from a machine on the same segment/subnet.  Arp is
 locally signifigant.  You cannot arp for a device on a different IP
 subnet.

 Hope this helps,

 Alan

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 Subject: RE: can we ping via MAC address? [7:6387]


  You won't be able to ping a MAC-Address, but if you only want to
 find an IP
  associated with the MAC, try using RARP! (Reverse ARP)
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Re: can we ping via MAC address? [7:6387]

2001-05-30 Thread Marco P Rodrigues


On Wed, 30 May 2001, Susan Stone wrote:

 Hi.. Dear all,

 If we have a MAC address, can we find out what is the IP address associated
 with it?  Given MAC find IP. Basically like ping via MAC address.  Can it
be
 done?

 Susan

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RE: can we ping via MAC address? [7:6387]

2001-05-30 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

RARP requires a RARP server. It was a predecessor to BOOTP and DHCP. It was 
used by diskless stations that had a MAC address but no IP address. RARP 
servers were usually implemented on a UNIX machine. They were pretty easy 
to set up. They included the functionality to also TFTP to the diskless 
station its OS and applications. So, RARP won't solve her problem.

If she has access to the ARP cache on a relevant router, it would give her 
the IP address for the MAC address. She would have to be looking at the 
router that is local to the MAC address though. Or she could look at the 
ARP cache on a client or server on the local segment also.

Priscilla

At 06:44 AM 5/30/01, Dyson Kuben wrote:
You won't be able to ping a MAC-Address, but if you only want to find an IP
associated with the MAC, try using RARP! (Reverse ARP)
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