RE: hsrp question..a tough one for me

2001-01-11 Thread Samuel Chen

Nope.  Each router need one ip and the virtual ip will be all computer's
gateway.  That means you need to use 3 ip addresses.  You only have 11 to
use.


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A question was recently posed:

Two routers-subnet for 12 hosts.  Do hsrp.

naturally you assume a subnet for 14 hosts, one address each for router
a and b.  then don't you need an address for the virtual ip for hsrp.
This only leaves 11 host addresses available.

My question was, "can you use one of the addresses from one of the
routers for the virtual ip address for hsrp".  This would put you back
up to 12 host addresses.

Is this the right answer?

thanks,
bk

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Re: hsrp question..a tough one for me

2001-01-11 Thread RAUL RENTERIA

no.  You need 1 ip per router; besides the ip for the virtual.  You cannot 
use an ip that belongs to either physical interface nor ip's of any of the 
devices that make up the network.  The ip you chose for the virtual hsrp 
will have its own virtual hardware address given by the router- this would 
also be a good reason why 1 ip cannot be shared.
good luck.

Raul.


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A question was recently posed:

Two routers-subnet for 12 hosts.  Do hsrp.

naturally you assume a subnet for 14 hosts, one address each for router
a and b.  then don't you need an address for the virtual ip for hsrp.
This only leaves 11 host addresses available.

My question was, "can you use one of the addresses from one of the
routers for the virtual ip address for hsrp".  This would put you back
up to 12 host addresses.

Is this the right answer?

thanks,
bk

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RE: hsrp question..a tough one for me

2001-01-11 Thread Evan Francen

You CAN'T use one of your physical router IP addresses for the virtual.
There will be problems with the MAC addresses learned and cached by your
clients.  The MAC address for the virtual router is virtual, the MAC address
for the router is physical.  The correct answer would be to 1)re-address
your network (using a subnet mask other than 240), allowing more IP
addresses, 2)use DHCP with a short lease period and lease IP addresses as
needed, or 3)use ip unnumbered on the routers freeing two IP addresses and
then using one of the freed addresses for your virtual.  I have tried "3" in
lab, and it worked fine.  There are probably more solutions, but these were
from the top of my head.

HTH,
Evan

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Subject: hsrp question..a tough one for me


A question was recently posed:

Two routers-subnet for 12 hosts.  Do hsrp.

naturally you assume a subnet for 14 hosts, one address each for router
a and b.  then don't you need an address for the virtual ip for hsrp.
This only leaves 11 host addresses available.

My question was, "can you use one of the addresses from one of the
routers for the virtual ip address for hsrp".  This would put you back
up to 12 host addresses.

Is this the right answer?

thanks,
bk

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Re: hsrp question..a tough one for me

2001-01-11 Thread ipguru

Thanks!  That is the answer i was looking for!

Evan Francen wrote:

 You CAN'T use one of your physical router IP addresses for the virtual.
 There will be problems with the MAC addresses learned and cached by your
 clients.  The MAC address for the virtual router is virtual, the MAC address
 for the router is physical.  The correct answer would be to 1)re-address
 your network (using a subnet mask other than 240), allowing more IP
 addresses, 2)use DHCP with a short lease period and lease IP addresses as
 needed, or 3)use ip unnumbered on the routers freeing two IP addresses and
 then using one of the freed addresses for your virtual.  I have tried "3" in
 lab, and it worked fine.  There are probably more solutions, but these were
 from the top of my head.

 HTH,
 Evan

 -Original Message-
 From: ipguru [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 11:09 AM
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 Subject: hsrp question..a tough one for me

 A question was recently posed:

 Two routers-subnet for 12 hosts.  Do hsrp.

 naturally you assume a subnet for 14 hosts, one address each for router
 a and b.  then don't you need an address for the virtual ip for hsrp.
 This only leaves 11 host addresses available.

 My question was, "can you use one of the addresses from one of the
 routers for the virtual ip address for hsrp".  This would put you back
 up to 12 host addresses.

 Is this the right answer?

 thanks,
 bk

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